blksf8

I had AEM use my old crappy Eclipse NA and make an intake for it back in 96. It dynoed 8 to the wheels. Think about it...that 8hp is actually 9-10 to the crank. And for performance, yes it did make a difference. I went to Pomona the next week and my 1/4 mile time dropped by .15....but of course, this can be attributed to driver as well.

SHOWOFF

AEM makes a great product but they are a little overpriced.

They will probobly be $350.

AEM_Tech

Changes are being made to the prototype so no dyno's to post. The intake should be under $350.

Velocity-8

Translation: The dyno numbers sucked so back to the drawing board! The price will be $349.99. :D :D



AEM-tech - don't take this seriously. I'm just teasin' ya. :p

blksf8

you know, I was thinking the same thing before I read your post....the numbers were bad.

AEM, can you let us know at least how much max HP gains you got so far?

...my guess is that it will cost around $250, but only $100 for folks on this forum...hehe

MaCh-8

i'd really like the see the dyno numbers too.. I JUST CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE. HAHAH

310Guy

You guys are STILL missing my point. Yeah, so an intake gives you an extra 8 horses at redline, big f'ing deal. Do you drive like that all the time, at redline? Under normal driving conditions, an intake will only give you sound.

Funny part is all the guys asking for dyno numbers will probably never buy an intake anyway...

blksf8

I'll buy one as soon as I can come up with my own conclusion which one makes power and is most cost efficient for me. I have had many intakes in the past and I definitely will buy one for this car. Will I use the power at the end of the band for daily driving? No, but I will use it when I start to autocross. It's not like the 8 is as heavy as a tank where added HP means nothing. Curbweight is pretty light (3000lb) so any added HP is a good thing.

Velocity-8

We got your point, thank you. Now go away...:D :D :D

No, I don't drive at redline all the time. I have 8999 rpms I have to go through first THEN I hit redline.

I've purchased an exhaust and the CZ1 so good chances are I'll buy an intake if I like it.

Now, go away...:D :D :D

XDEEDUBBX

no offence 310 but let them be..if they are curious about hp gains then let them find out which one makes more power..even if it is like a 1/4 hp more, there are still a lot of other people on this forum that would like to know...

blksf8

yeah, I have no problems w/ Lawrence, but he needs to know that I've bought many intakes before and I will do so w/ this car. Matter of fact, I still have a crappy ice man intake and an AEM cold air intake in my garage from my 96 NA Eclipse...anyone want to buy????

rotarygod

As many people know I am a big supporter of tuned intake systems rather than just bolting on a cone filter but I will admit that there is a little power to be had from these systems. I have always just believed that there is more inherent potential in a properly designed tuned system. It is only because of such a little gain in power that I agree with 310 in saying that it isn't feelable. I also feel that these intake systems are not a good way to spend money but I only mean this from the standpoint that it is the ONLY performance mod. It isn't enough to feel on its own. Combine this with a good exhaust and some ecu programming and you could have a very nice package. Sometimes the sum is greater than it's individual parts. Just remember that 2 mods that are each about halfway to a feelable gain in power add up to something you can notice.

AEM_Tech

The most gain was 10 repeatable hp. Some configurations gave 3-5 throughout the midrange and fell off on the top end, where some gave 1-2 over stock and peaked out over the top end. There will be more configurations to test. There is also such a fitment issue with a lack of room in the car. This car provides a unique challenge.

Velocity-8

Thanks for the update. Is this on a stock car or one with other performance parts?

SHOWOFF

I will buy an intake once I find the highest quality one. I do want to also just for my own sake want to know the HP increase wether it is 1/2 HP or 25 HP or whatever the company claims. I do like the change in sound with an intake and I usually get a little better fuel mileage with it as well.

I just can't understand why people are getting so heated over intake discussions.

One of the best setups I ever had on my 3rd gen Eclipse V-6 was a ghetto *** intake that I used off of my old 2nd gen. I used the old MAF adapter and a generic cone style filter. With just a straight through muffler and this "ghetto" intake my car made almost 16 HP at the wheels! It also sounded awesome. I did this b/c no one had come out with any parts for the car yet.

The bottom line was that I liked the way it sounded, it made decent HP and I was happy.

I later on bought an Injen Race Division intake with a heat shield that made less HP and did not sound nearly as good. I only did this because it looked cleaner and matched the rest of the Injen dress up parts under my hood, I drilled and tapped the old one for nitrous, and I also got it for 1/2 the price of the AEM intake.

Something else to consider is filter size and position under the hood. If the filter is larger and also closer to the driver and also closer to the edge of the engine compartment it will be considerably louder than a CAI intake that picks up air closer to the ground.

The bottom line is this, if you buy the intake and you are happy with the sound and the looks and it makes you even feel like your car is a little bit faster then I think it's worth every penny.

VividRacing.com

OK, easy guys. No need to draw blood over an intake. Everyone has thier own opinions and thats all that they are, Opinions.

Omicron

Agreed. We've had a bit too much fighting over intakes of late here, so us moderators are more than a little bit sensitive... let's NOT start another one.

DemonRX-8

10 HP? That's better than I expected to see. I would be interested in one if the power gain is verified and, of course, the dollars/hp is decent . . .

Dookie_Rx-8

i dont get some of you talking about its crap and waste of money,
some of you act like you have to keep it stock

to let some of you know i CAN feel a difference with me borla exhaust

AEM_Tech

I'll try and keep the cost down as much as possible on the engineering side.

BoxerGT2.5

Ok....just a thought but how much different is the AEM intake going to be from the Typhoon? Obviously unless it is a true cold air intake then alot. But if not then what is really going to make this intake different from those currently available? Element size? Just giving some thought.

rotary_it_up

AEM_Tech,

How long does it take to get a new intake to market once the final prototype is approved for sale?

I've got a $500 American Express debit card burning a hole in my pocket.

Thanks

rotarygod

You pretty much have it figured out. The biggest difference will be in filter size. Assuming that the filter used flows well, there shouldn't be any appreciable performance difference between the K&N and AEM. If either claims otherwise I'd be very skeptical of their claims. If they are both essentially designed the same way and both use similar filters, they can't be that different. If one company has a pipe that is 2 feet longer than the other company, then there will be a difference. This is just another "cone filter" jump on the bandwagon product. Don't think you will get any advantage over any other aftermarket intake system out there. Like the K&N and Rotary Extreme kits, AEM better do something to address the engine bay heat issue.

AEM_Tech

:o

AEM_Tech

It will still be a while for tooling. 3-4 weeks