NavyDood

I use both Zaino Leather cleaner (Z9) mixed with Zaino Leather protectant (Z10) on an old washcloth for all the plastic surfaces.

It doesn't cause a glare, no greasy feel, and has SPF40 in it.

jwitzer

Nothing is the best!

Why does the plastic NEED to be "treated"? Why is "dry" (and clean) bad?

Dust it. Done. :D

Vaccuum it if you can't get into a crevase.

Sponge it and dry it if it has schmutz.

And, trust me, I *am* as **** retentive about cars as anyone. My RX-7, with 170,000 miles, was still getting comments like "I thought they stopped making these years ago. This one is NEW!".

Once you use ArmorAll, I don't know how to safely stop using it. That's the hook. If you use it long enough, you HAVE to keep replacing the short-chain polymers that keep evaporating since some (most? all?) original long-chain polymers were flushed out. But stop early.

Any chemists out there???

Velocity-8

Because it looks WAY better done.

jwitzer

Now *THAT'S* and opinion (and wrong, BTW :-))

Shiny dash BAD. Dangerous, ugly, and greasy stuff all over your hands (and steering wheel, and shifter, and door handles). YECHHH!

Matte finish GOOD. Safer, pretty, and clean!

"Treating" a dash kinda reminds me of hair conditioner. You've just spent time CLEANING your hair, why follow that up by slopping GREASE in it? (Conditioner = lipids = fat = grease.)

But that's only my 2 cents and ArmorAll has gotten rich by convincing the naiive that if you don't "treat" your dash, you're somehow neglecting it (when actually it's better for the dash to just leave it alone and walk away). Kinda like you never needed a cell phone until the phone companies told you that you did so now you HAVE to have one. Gee, what did we *ever* do before we could call the wife 3 times on the way home (while DRIVING, no less) to make sure, again, that we've got the grocery list right.

Velocity-8

You obviously never used Aerospace 303. It does NOT make the dash shiny. It gives it a nice darker MATTE finish. It works awesome on the exterior plastic too.

I agree, shiny is BAD but please be sure you know your facts before flaming. :D :D :D

jwitzer

Me not flame.

Me educate.

What Aerospace 303 do that you need?

Why not just clean?

Grog like clean.

markd

Just want to revive this thread with an update on ArmorAll. My **** retentive self decided to e-mail their customer support to get some answers. I asked them if their product causes more drying and, if not, if it's because they changed their formula to include "good" silicone. Here was their response from today:

"Thank you for contacting The Armor All Products Company again.

The ARMOR ALL Protectant formula was never changed from a bad silicone to
a good. We have done extensive testing to ensure that our product is safe
for recommended surfaces. Specifically, we have tests supporting the
benefits of ARMOR ALL Protectant per the American Society of Testing
Materials (ASTM) procedure G-25, which is also described in AATCC Method
16A-1971. We have also done tests which conclusively prove the benefits
of ARMOR ALL Protectant in extending the life of tires and other
automotive materials.

Since we do not recommend mixing our formula to lower the shine. The
ARMOR ALL Ultimate Clean Protectant combines ARMOR ALL protection with
powerful cleaning ingredients. Also, leaves a low shine, clean finish, on
your dashboard, door panels, and consoles. I hope this information is
helpful.

Again, thank you for contacting us.

Sincerely,

David N. Mills
Product Specialist"


Any thoughts?

Rob Tomlin

From what I have read on Autopia, it appears that there are no more issues with Armor All. It should be perfectly safe.

NavyDood

I still despise the stuff though. It's just a greasy, glossy, mess to me.

StewC625

Armorall ... made my 1979 Scirocco look kewl man!

No way would I let that slime touch my -8.

I just dust with the damp dry-off towel each time I wash the car.