Spin9k

For my new RX-8 I found this 'Ultimate Auto Polish/Finish' called Liquid Glass at Pep Boys. Most expensive stuff they had, I think list is $22/16oz cost me $17. Certainly sounds good with a 'Lifetime Protection' guarantee. Says no abrasives, clear coat OK. Carbon molecule base bond with the paint after curing in the sun after application, use on glass, etc. All that good stuff, it's a miracle I guess!

Anyone heard good/bad about it or used it and has opinions??

Thanks.

Hercules

Just buy Zaino and skip the rest of the crap

Spin9k

I know everyone is hot on Zaino, but it can't be the only thing in the world that does a fairly decent job. I don't need perfection, I'm not showing the car, I just want it to look good with not too much work.

Zaino at 1st blush after reading here and elsewhere,

1. costs a lot
2. can't be bought locally
3. takes a lot of effort to use
4. is the best product in the universe, bar none.

I've read how much this product is loved, so please don't start a thread of how I absolutley must use this because...., I can appreciate your satisfaction and loyalty, no problem.

BUT, is there anyone that can give an opinion of Liquid Glass/ It seems to get good user reviews from those that have posted on the web. Just wondering if anyone HERE that has actually tried it and their experience? I can always return what I bought if it is that bad.

Thanks for the help.

highspeed8

Back in the 80's my brother and I would use Liquid Glass constantly, back then it was the most advanced stuff we could find. Worked great, very easy on/easy off and piled on the coats for a nice deep gloss. My brother still uses it.

Quick_lude

I think Liquid Glass is a synthetic polymer like Zaino right? If so it should be fine. Klasse products are pretty good I've heard also.

evoandy

I just went from using liquid glass (had about 7-8 layers on it) to zaino. Zaino is leagues better. Even though liquid glass was a synthetic, it didn't seem to last that long. Zaino is definitely better than liquid glass, and isn't as involved as people make it out to be as long as you use the accelerator additive. I used to skirt around buying zaino because I wasnt concerned with my car being "show worthy" either, and liquid glass was the best stuff I found. until I went to zaino. Liquid glass made my car look like it was brand new and had just rolled off the assembly line. Zaino made it look better.

Chadr

If you are not going to use Zaino (which I personally recommend like so many others) I would use a clay bar and Zymol paste wax on it. Like SO many other things in the world you get what you pay for and even Zymol paste wax is expensive.

Personally in the past I have used Zaino and right before winter applied a nice coat of Zymol titanium to further protect the finish from the salt and what not in my area.

Pinnacle and p21s stuff are also very good. Check www.autosupermart.com for their products but they are going to cost similar to Zaino in the end.

jbart1981

I have used liquid glass in the past, never even heard of Zaino until this forum, and it does a very nice job. I however prefer the thee step pack from meguir's----1. cleaner 2. polish. 3. gold class liquid wax. it has done very well for me. sometimes repeat steps 2&3 .

AfroCreame

Unless you want to apply coat after coat, clay, wash, wax, wax, use snake oil accelaration additive that probably colored water then stick with Liquid Glass or Klasse. I 've used it all on various cars and keep coming back to LG. It's true that LG doesn't last as long as the Klasse sealant nor Zaino, but for the little effort, widely available, and great shine...LG is hard to beat. I could put toothpaste in a bottle and if I had 20 people on this board rave how good it was...people would buy it and sing the praises too. Zaino is OK, not worth it IMO though. Zaino's leather conditioner sucks too. I hate the greasy feel to it. I prefer Lexol. To each his own..just use what makes ya happy.

graphicguy

truth told, I've used many, many different waxes. I'll say up front, I've never found anything better than Zaino. I've used Klasse, LG, Pinnacle, Meguiars, Mothers, collinite, and others I'm sure I'm forgetting.

For shine, durability, depth, it's Zaino, hands down.

Now about how hard it is to use....

The first couple of steps should be done no matter what wax you use...that is to Dawn wash and clay.

If you're not a fanatic, skip those two steps and do the following....

--Z7 Zaino wash
--dry
--apply the Zaino mix of ZFX/Z2
--Wipe off


You're done. The above would take about an hour....MAX!

Plus, now it can't be any easier to get Zaino. Go their web site, order the products, it shows up on your doorstep a few days later and you didn't even have to leave your house.

As an aside, I find Zaino's leather treatment to be the best I've found, too. You wipe it on (gives your whole interior that "like new" leather smell) let it absorb into your leather and you're done. Once it's absorbed into the leather, there is no greasy/oily mess.

AfroCreame

Humm...let's add it up..

Liquid Glass: $17.99 (I think that's what I paid)




ZFX Flash Cure: $19.95 (This supposedly "speeds" up the drying time)

Z2: $12.95


$32.90. Tha'ts quit a bit of diffrerence between the price. I've used Zaino on two of my previous cars...a Chrome Silver 350Z and a Blue G35 Coupe. I admit it looked okay, but not worth the time. The amount of effort, mail ordering, etc. didn't have the ohhh ahhh factor I was expecting. Switched back to LG as it's available locally, fairly cheap, and can be layered just like Zaino. I'll break it down like this. If you want the absolute best shine (not a night and day diffrence), have alot of time on your hands to get the best results (multiple coats), and don't plan on waxing much..go with the Zaino as it's very durable. If you want great results with little effort, but don't mind waxing a little more often...go with LG. As far as the leather..I thought it would be a miracle..almost like the second coming as Zaino is the holy grail....after putting it on my wifes Navigator (Creame leather), and my Black leather on the 8..it look liked crap. I had to keep buffing it to get the greasy feel out. Maybe I just got a bad batch? I still prefer Lexol as the best. It's leaves a good feel and smell. To each his own.

graphicguy

It's only wax, so it doesn't matter to me what anyone uses. Just that I want to use the best on my RX8. The whole idea of Zaino being hard to use just isn't true. It's probably the easiest wax I've ever used. I've had Zaino last 6 months on my previous cars. With winter coming, that's the kind of stuff I need during the winter months when I can't wax the car.

Genom

My first Zaino aplication was time consuminf since I had never used it before and was used to how regular wax works. However, once you get the process down apt, a complete car wash/dry/Z2/Z6 aplication is about an hour and a half. Rememeber, your going over the car 5 times here! So I think timewise it's very good. Zaino rubs on and off way easier than wax too and lasts a lot longer. I have tried at odd times almsot everything else out there for protecting paint and the only other one I had really liked was McGuires. Now I'm a Zaino guy.

Something else a lot of people forget is that 32 dollar Zaino purchase is good for at least a years worth of aplications. If you use it properly once a month thats 12 aplications of Z2 from one bottle. Now if each layer lasts 4-6 months, then your talking about 5 years worth.

I dont think it's too expensive :D

mikeb

I never heard of zaino until this forum. But it most be good because people on this forum has high expectations which is good and it seems like everyone has approved of zaino

graphicguy

I've been using Zaino for about 6-7 years, when they were just another "boutique wax". Their success speaks volumes about how good the product is. Plus, they don't advertise, which makes it that much more incredible. I've talked to the founder, Sal Zaino, on the phone several times for waxing tips. Try getting through to the President of Meguiars, or LG, or Klasse.....

Even the independent studies for car wax support the Zaino results.

It's few and far between the times where you can call any product "the best". This is one of those rare products.

AfroCreame

I just went ahead and ordered some Z2 and Z3 from Zaino. I'am going to do half the car in Liquid Glass and another in Zaino....one coat only. I want to see if I'am right and people can't tell a turd of difference, or if I'am blown away and switch myself. It should be here by the end of the week and I'll post comparo shots.

claude4

It would also be interesting to see which one lasts longer as well.

Claude H.

AfroCreame

I can tell you right now the Zaino (usually) lasts longer than anything I've tried. I just want to see how it compares to LG as far as shine and clarity is concerned. I wax my vehicle almost everytime I wash it so long lasting protection isn't too much of a concern. I'll have something posted by the middle of next week. According to UPS my stuff should get here Tuesday.

graphicguy

Don't forget to Dawn wash first to strip off whatever you waxed with before. That's the way to see how effective Zaino really is.

claude4

Thanks,

I was curious to see how long it would be B4 one noticed which one held its shine the longest after an equal amount of car washes.

Clearly they are both good products and to some the determining factor might be the resiliance of each.

Thanks,

Claude H.

RX-GR8

a regular car soap will leave the existing wax on? (i dont want to strip the existing wax)

mikeb

I heard never use something that is designed to cut grease off of dishes on your paint

RX-GR8

i got some mcguires car wash and tomorrow im going to wax my 8 with liquid glass. pictures at 11. i have a sears orbital buffer/poilsher but the first time i'm going to do it with elbow grease.

6speed8

Follow the Zaino instructions to the letter. Yes Dawn dish detergent will strip the wax off. I have no doubt that one coat of liquid Glass will look as good as one coat of Zaino, the beauty of Zaino is you can put layer upon layer - and once you reach 5 layers - nothing comes close to longevity and shine. I have been using Zaino for 5 years and in the 30 years I have been 'waxing' my cars, NOTHING comes close.

Also a bit of wonder: The RX-8 cost's roughly $30k, so why be so frugal when it comes to the cost of the protection of it?

AfroCreame

I haven't forgotten! As I stated in my previous posts I ordered some Zaino and wanted to do a Zaino vs. Liquid Glass comparo...I wasn't too impressed. I've applied 3 coats of Z5 and have gone through an entire bottle of Z2. Did the car look great? Yes, my car does look damn good, I would have to say the Zaino is a LITTLE bit more reflective than the Liquid Glass. Why don't I post pictures? Because I've tried different angles, different lighting, etc...and you cannot tell a difference between the two at all using a camera. THe way I did it was to wax the hood in 2 sections....one with LG..other with Zaino. After I go through the Zaino I'am going back to LG. It seems to dry quicker, a couple of coats brings me close to multiple coats of zaino, easier to take off, and it's available locally. I even went to a car gathering awhile back with shawrf1 and spdspappy and they weren't overly impressed with the Zaino. If you must have the ultimate shine...yea..go with Zaino and tons of coats of it. If you want a shine that's 95% of Zaino, with 2 or less coats...use LG. I wax my car at least once a week so I didn't do any durability tests. One other note...with as much orange peel the RX8 has..the great shine of LG and Zaino really brings it out. Instead of a silky smooth paint (which I expected after tons of coats with each wax), I seemed to get smooth, shiney orange peel. Just my 02