The Mighty Red

Is there anything in stock class you can do to lower the car? Maybe something like shocks with a lower spring perch or something? Anything?

Imp

I beg to differ about SP as I believe it would be fully legal in SP as long as the car is set up to STU specs. (read: no SP specific modifications that aren't legal in ST... stuff like boost, fenders, non-airbag steering wheels, etc...)

Wings are allowed in STU, and it's legal to have a car setup to STU rules in its appropriate SP class. As long as you don't do SP mods that aren't legal in STU, then the RX8 is legal, with a wing, any wing that meets ST rules, in its SP class.

Since STU doesn't have a rim width restrction, and tire width for the ST in SP car is overruled (must comply with 15.3), any wheel/tire/r-compound is allowed.

--kC

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iTrader: (1)

The cars we have here in BSP with the MazdaSpeed wing also have light flywheels, so they can not use the STU loop hole.

Imp

The original post said nothing about a flywheel??

I was just stating "a way" for any RX8 that is mildly modified (via Wing) to STU specs on r-compounds that would have a place to play other than SM.

--kC

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iTrader: (1)

That sounds like a great idea.... Give up a light flywheel, no cat, after market fuel injection and other misc SP items so you can run a ricer wing.

Only a subi driver would think that is a good idea.

Imp

Where did I say it was good? Sheesh.

All I'm saying is that you can run the wing in SP, there is a way to do it. I never said that it would be 'good' if you get there that way.

Paul_in_DC

Some things on my wish list would bump me out of stock. When I get to that point I'll do it anyway. If it puts me in STU, so be it. Autocross is just for fun, anyway.

The Mighty Red

That's my philosphy. I did what I did to my car because I wanted to. So what if I end up in STU.

At least... that's what I used to think.

Now I'm kinda regretting it because I get stuck in STU class with 4 STis where I get while the RX8 in BS with V710s comes in first place.

Oh well... it's just for fun... right?

Can I even be competivive with better wheels, tires, and a lot more practice or is this a lost cause in STU class?

CodingParadox

That's pretty much what my attitude was with my alltrac. I modified it however I wanted, and whatever class it put me in, so be it. I ended up firmly in SM, but the car actually competes decently well in SM, so it's not too bad. =)

The problem with just modifying a car and playing in classes is that you can't tell how you're doing compared to other people. I've started running more and more autox's in my dad's AS S2000, because it gives me a much better idea how I'm progressing. Having an RX-8 with shocks and 710s in BS will be even better for that purpose. I'm buying the RX-8 primarily to have a car that I will not modify, to be a DD for years to come that I don't have to worry about, and by keeping myself to BS rules, this helps ensure that goal greatly.

So, there's two good reasons for people to stick in BS. =)

speeddemon32

good point! and the nice thing about BS is it's not like you cant do ANYTHING. the V710's alone make it fun.

Struts
Front Sway bar
Cat back
V710's
Light Wheels
drop in filter

that's not a bad list of parts. only thing I think BS is missing is springs. I am sure they have their reasons for not allowing it. (then again some of the rules dont make any sense to me)

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iTrader: (1)

Hey Speed.... Maybe if you adjusted your wing for more downforce you would not have spun out last weekend.

speeddemon32

he he he, there you go.... I dont think the wing would have been enough to compensate for my stupidity.

also dont want to draw attention to the non legal wing.

Paul_in_DC

Hell, in the SCCA DC region B-Stock is a sh*tload more competitive than STU. In the last event the top 4 B-Stockers were like within a fraction of a second of each other. There's more of a spread in STU here. I haven't got the time to get serious about autox'ing, so I'll probably just run where it's more fun.