Lawerence

I think mid 15s will be about average for a stock RX8.

Let me tell you that its easier to cut better 60' with a FWD protege than it is with the RX8 (in stock form that is).

zerobanger

mid 15's average for a stock Rx-8. Yea right. If mid 15's is average for a stock rx-8 then high 14's low 15's are average for a 350Z, high 13's are average for an STI, mid 13's are average for a Z06.

Shift at redline, launch at 6000, shift fast you will run high 14's.

Broker73

mid 15's??

have you been reading times posted on here?
The 8 is a mid to high 14sec 1/4 mile car stock. Members on here have proved that. Your time estimates are off.

Canzoomer pulled a 13.8 with his stage one mod that adds 25hp. Without it the 8 is closer to high 14's. Judge ITO has pulled low 14's stock

zerobanger

I think the 13.8 was with a G-Tech. If im right, please dont confuse G-Tech times with real 1/4 track times. While I dont doubt that the Rx-8 with canzoomers mod will do atleast 13.8, I think thats a G-tech time. Also, Judge Ito destryed his car to run 14.3. 14.75 or so is a normal time for the car, I strongly believe that. Just mod the car if you want to go faster, no big deal.

Please correct me if im wrong.

Lawerence

Before you think anything read my entire post.

THIS CAR IS CAPABLE OF MID 14s STOCK.
I know this. Its just that in my opinion you need to be one hell of a driver to get that time out of the car.


"mid 15's average for a stock Rx-8. Yea right. If mid 15's is average for a stock rx-8 then high 14's low 15's are average for a 350Z, high 13's are average for an STI, mid 13's are average for a Z06."

I've driven all those cars with the exception of the Z06. And let me tell you, they are much easier to launch than an RX8.

Now you named a couple of people who got good times out of the car. But if you look down through the racing section (even back a few pages) you will find that most people are running shitty times.

I said (IMO) what the contributing factors are as to why its so hard to launch on the first page of this post.

But launching at 6k and shifting at redline itsnt the problem. He did that (i was in the car for one of his runs).

Im done arguing. But this site really needs a 1/4 time section. With a list of ppl who ran and what thier times are (faster ET to slowest). Oh and timeslips just because im an *** and dont believe ppl over the internet

zerobanger

I have a 1994 Rx-7 TT and yes its easier to launch than my Rx-8. The Rx-8 requires you to launch at a higher RPM. Just like the s2000 if you launch at low RPM's you will run 15's, I'm not denying that. but to say it averages 15's is stupid.

SPD-FC

I have ran both cars and there is no way in the world that a 130hp fwd protege should cut better 60' than a rx-8, rev it to 6200 and drop the clutch I get no wheel hop it just hooks up. I am taking it out to the track with the new exhaust on i am looking for at least a 2.0 out of the 60'.

Lawerence

The track and the street are different.
At the track. If you dump the clutch you will get wheel hop.


"I have a 1994 Rx-7 TT and yes its easier to launch than my Rx-8. The Rx-8 requires you to launch at a higher RPM. Just like the s2000 if you launch at low RPM's you will run 15's, I'm not denying that. but to say it averages 15's is stupid."

I dont think you compreheand what im saying.
THe S2K doesnt have any wheelhop. Its much easier to launch than an RX8 (at the track, i've never launched them on the street).

zerobanger

I comprehend fine. I have been to the track ALOT. I understand the idea of wheel hop. My 94 RX7 had bad wheel hop until I replaced the trailing arms and lowered the psi of the tires.

All cars get wheel hop, its not just the rx8.

Lawerence

OK im only taking the times of ppl who went to the track.
NO GTECH and NO OTHER METHODS. ONLY TRACK TIMES:

15.4 @ 92.8
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=16035

14.5 @ 94
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=13059

15.1 @ 91
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=10493

15.2 @ 91
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=11379

10.1 @ ?? (1/8th mile) 10.1 = 15.8-16.1 in the 1/4mile
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=10922

And this thread where his best was a 15.8 @ 91.6.

SO we have 5 15 seccond times and one 14 seccond time.
The average (not counthing the 10.1 1/8) is 15.2.

I have PROVED my point with other peoples times.
Again I dont believe in Gtech or any other method besides the track. So if you guys want to prove me wrong go get some timeslips in the mid 14s to lower that average.

Untill then the average RX8 runs a 15 seccond 1/4 mile.

zerobanger

lawrence,

You have proved nothing. Well actually, you have proved that those posts average 15 seconds. Thats it. I will take my car to the track in the next few weeks and see what I do. I am firm in my believe mid to high 14's. 14.75 is my #.

IN reality the only point to make is what the car is capable of. There are too many factors around to say "it averages". If I drag my car to mid 14's, then its a mid 14 second car. It shouldn't matter what these guys ran.

Do you own an rx-8? if not what do you drive? Cause frankly you get on my nerves.

RX8-TX

Sounds better if you say: high 14s ~ low 15s

zerobanger

Ok, I know Vosko from the Rx-7 forum and I understand that judge ito is also a great driver. Since they could barely do high 14's without breaking the car, I will ammend my statement. The rx-8 is a 16 second car.

later.

syntrix

Aren't some of those time "first time draggers"?

Doing an average time, would be like taking a sample of 5 random people and putting them on the track. Could be good, could be bad.

Just give it some time, as the weather gets warmer, people will start to get into drag racing more and more. Then we'll get some better times.

OH, and on those averages, you are missing one HUGE thing.... elevation! That will affect times greatly.

Lawerence

Im getting on your nerves?
IM not trying to. WHat im saying doesnt get through to you.

But im just trrying to say that only experienced drag racers will get good 1/4 mile times out of the RX8. Ond most people (especially RX8 owners) are NOT drag racers. Hence the average of 15.2.

"IN reality the only point to make is what the car is capable of. There are too many factors around to say "it averages"."

LISTEN TO ME. I said in my first post that this car is CAPABLE OF MID 14s.

{{{This is when you spouted off some nonsense about if it averages 15s than a Z06 averages 13s. (well I showed you my proof, where is yours?)}}}

But I said it will AVERAGE in the 15s. WHich going by ppl's timeslips...IT DOES.

I really dont see what you are trying to argue.
As I agree the car is capable of 14s, its just not likely with the average driver.

Anyhow what I drive is irrelivent. We are on the RX8 msg board to discuss the RX8.

For some reason if you go to the track and run a 15...i dont think you are going to tell me.

zerobanger

My first run in my 1994 Rx-7 was a 15.1. I went back the next week and ran 13.6.

I'm sure that I will run 16's or 17's in the rx-8, I already conceeded that to you.

Lawerence

Syntrix you are right, but no one posted thier elivations to factor in.

Anyhow, i like the 8 never said i didnt.

But you ppl jump down my thought, when all i say is that most guys will run 15s. damn. chill out

syntrix

Exactly Lawrence!

A LOT of people just don't understand that. Also most tracks are cold and dusty right now, if they are open at all.

For example, in another car.... I ran 13.6's all day long in vegas in about 110 degree weather, 2200 ASL.

Same popular mods, and others were pulling 12.9's or 13.0's at Sea Level on known sticky tracks.

Moral? We should all run to a sea level track, have a party and run rx8's all day long. Mmmmm, rotary cooked potatoes!

zerobanger

you are right, we just dont like to hear the truth. After reading those threads I'm betting on a 16 for ole Zero.

Lawerence

Sounds good.
Everyone should come here to florida.
Sea level, rotaries and women
Doesnt get much better.

you are right, we just dont like to hear the truth. After reading those threads I'm betting on a 16 for ole Zero.
Come on man. Im sure youll be getting better than 16s.
Besides you've drag raced before.

Let us know what you run! hopefully youl run 14s, good luck

s13lover

Sounds like the 3-4 gear syncro may be bad if it is hard to shift into 4th. If thats so, a cheap answer maybe to try some Red Line tranny oils, b/c they are designed for optimal shift engagement.

I believe Car and Drive launched the RX-8 at 8000rpm to get the best acceleration time and they commented that there was much wheel spin. However, the wheel spin was faster than the alternative of engine bog at low rpm.

brothervoodoo

Actually, didn't they lose two tranny's already? I think vosko owns the car and judge ito drives it once in awhile....

r0tor

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I'm still confused as to why someone would be shifting into 4th gear at a speed under 90mph (taking into account it sounds like they shifted well before the finish line)... ?????

Lawerence

IIm pretty sure he redlined fourth @ 91.6 as it sounded like he was bouncing off the limiter

How high is third supposed to go?

zerobanger

third redlines around 94-96. He should have had no need to shift into 4th.

I'm racing my car on the track on Saturday, should be fun.