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hasg 01-08-2004 09:12 PM

Went to track, stock rx8 sucks
 
Whoever said they ran under a 15 with a bone stock rx8 is full of

shit unless they are the best driver in the f***** world. I just

took mine out to the track and every time I tried to drop the

clutch I got insane wheel hop through the entire first gear, it

never even spun the tires (DSC was off). I tried launching from

all different rpm's with no luck. The best time I ran was

a 15.867 @ 91.46 mph but maybe its because i've never been to

the track before. I'm going to put in motor mounts and let out

some tire pressure next time i go. Here's my time slips. If anyone

has done better with their stock rx8 please post time slips.

http://www.smokeherb.com/timeslips.jpg

zerobanger 01-08-2004 09:23 PM

you are getting 2.6 on your 60' ft. YOu need to improve your 60' and then your time will drop. If you get a 2.2 60' and maintain the optimal shift pattern you will do a 14.6 or so.

zerobanger 01-08-2004 09:24 PM

what RPM do you launch at? What RPM do you shift at? Thanks.

syntrix 01-08-2004 09:41 PM

First of all, watch the swearing.


Ranging from 2.5 to 3.3 60's is really bad launching at the track. And we all know that launches are EVERYTHING in 1/4 mile.

Since it was your first time at the track, I can understand the very poor launches.

As a suggestion, DON'T lower your tire pressures until you gain some launching experience.

Here's some of my old slips (non-rx8) to make you drool:

http://www.swankmonkey.com/images/13.6.jpg
http://www.swankmonkey.com/images/11.7.gif
http://www.swankmonkey.com/images/11.5.jpg

Haven't launched the 8 at the strip yet, and I really don't plan to in the future.

Sea Ray 01-08-2004 09:45 PM

Hey Syntrix,
Whats the deal with your reaction time?? You are losing some time there. I've never tired it so I am just curious.
....

edit by syntrix:::... damn, actually ADDED to your post sorry about that.... snipping and adding my stuff separately....

hasg 01-08-2004 09:47 PM

I tried launching from 8k, 6k, 5k, and 3k. Also switching from 3rd

to 4th is very hard for some reason. I never actually got it in 4th

gear. I'm going back out to the track on sunday to give it

another shot with new motor mounts in and less tire pressure.

Hopefully i'll get some better times.

syntrix 01-08-2004 09:49 PM

Throttle and clutch modulation to keep just a little tiny bit of wheel spin are the keys. I know that you can do MUCH better than a 2.5 60'. Just need to work on it!

syntrix 01-08-2004 09:50 PM

R/T does not affect overall time. It is added to a sportsman run.. see the 13.6, I got a FASTER time, SLOWER reaction, and the other guy won the RACE.

I usually line up and take my time as these are all mostly Test and Tunes.... the R/T is not added. The time starts when you dump the clutch!

Sea Ray 01-08-2004 09:53 PM

Ok on the start time but what about the wheel hop? I have only got on mine a couple times and I also noticed some bad hop going from 1st to 2nd.

hasg 01-08-2004 09:56 PM

yea the wheel hop was horrible no matter how i launched it. I'm putting in new motor mounts and hopefully that will fix it.

zerobanger 01-08-2004 09:57 PM

I think you should launch at 6000 to start and feather the clutch. I have not launched my rx8, but my technic for my 94 rx7 was to lauch at 3000, feather the clutch about 1/2 way and then drop it.

syntrix 01-08-2004 10:09 PM

Also, who has mounts?

An old-timer trick is to get that window repair urethane or whatever it is..... and fill the spaces in the rubber mounts with it. It will stiffen up the stock mount... if there's spaces in it.

Gord96BRG 01-08-2004 10:24 PM

Re: Went to track, stock rx8 sucks
 

Originally posted by hasg
Whoever said they ran under a 15 with a bone stock rx8 is full of shit unless they are the best driver in the fuckin world.
:p Sure, your times suck and it's the car's fault!! :p

Regards,
Gordon

Lawerence 01-08-2004 10:36 PM

I went with him and drove the 8.
It is a hard car to drive well (in the 1/4 mile) stock for a few reasons: (imo ;) )

1: Ungodly amounts of wheel-hop. Man I thought my car was bad...but this takes the cake.
Syntrix: no one has mounts we are going to fill them with polyurethane

2. Peaky powerband (but a relatively smooth tq curve). This makes the launch a hit or miss (ie. bog, spin/hop or good launch)

3. Notchy shifter. I dont know if its his car, but the 3-4 shift seems like its a BITCH to get into. Going from my 6spd to his, the 3-4 felt even worse.

But, you can still feel the car pull pretty well once it gets going. With a 2.2 60' I could see a 14.6-7 @94ish.

THis car seems very much like the RSX in its power delivery and even in the launch.


I dont think tonight was the best for traction because i was expecting to break 14s in my car but could only pull crap 2.33 60's.
(i did get my best R/T of .051 woot!)

http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/L...e/thirdrun.JPG

Oh and the 17.5 he posted was mine....how embarassing :(

syntrix 01-08-2004 10:49 PM

Anyone notice the first timeslip url?

http://www.smokeherb.com/timeslips.jpg

Maybe like a transformer, there was more than meets the eye?

Lawerence 01-08-2004 10:53 PM

I doubt the URL has anything to do with the way he drives
:confused:

Dick Carlson 01-09-2004 08:18 AM

You mean an "altered conceptual state?"

hasg 01-09-2004 10:03 AM

what are you trying to say?

Chuck Clifford 01-09-2004 05:04 PM

Maybe you did your burnout in bong water. I picture the old Cheech and Chong movie where they are going down the interstate, the whole car is full of smoke and the musics blareing, you think they are going 100 MPH, then the camera pans back and they are going like 5 in a 55 zone. :D

r0tor 01-10-2004 01:27 PM

whats all this about the 3-4 shift???

... if your driving a RX8 6speed and only going 91.4mph at the end of the 1/4 mile you would still be in 3rd gear since that tops out at 96mph....

BRx8 01-10-2004 03:29 PM


Originally posted by hasg
what are you trying to say?
he means it seems you mispelled the last letter of your name...the "h" is to the right of the "g"

(just being humorous, don't take offense)

delhi 01-12-2004 01:59 PM

syntrix, is your car stock? 11.xx for 1/4 is hella fast! that's faster than a 400hp Z06!

SPD-FC 01-12-2004 06:56 PM

those are the worst times i have ever seen out of a rx8, I can get better 60' out of my fwd protege (stock)

syntrix 01-12-2004 07:51 PM


Originally posted by delhi
syntrix, is your car stock? 11.xx for 1/4 is hella fast! that's faster than a 400hp Z06!
If you read my post there's this before the links:

(non-rx8).

Just showing you track newbies that I have a lot of 1/4 mile experience.

IMHO, you really dont' want to launch the RX8 unless you uprate the driveshafts and put in stiffer mounts (rubber to urethane).

There is a lot of wheel hop, and that can destroy trannies!

We've seen more than one person destroy their transmissions. Same in ANY other world.. you get wheel hop, you are putting crazy amounts of stress on the internals :(

delhi 01-13-2004 07:36 AM

Whew! I wasn't reading properly. Just too caught up with an 11sec "RX-8". :D Forgive me... but may I ask what car was that? a modified rx-7?


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