The STX thread!
01-08-2013, 07:37 AM
#2702
everyone except BRZ and FRS owners
my bigger issue at the moment is getting my shocks straightened out. Apparently another front shock blew the shaft seal at Gateway and the rear shocks, which were rebuilt just prior are alsoshowing excessive oil on the shaft. Just sent them out to Koni NA today. Hoping they can figure out what Truechoice has repeatedly been unable to resolve.
my bigger issue at the moment is getting my shocks straightened out. Apparently another front shock blew the shaft seal at Gateway and the rear shocks, which were rebuilt just prior are alsoshowing excessive oil on the shaft. Just sent them out to Koni NA today. Hoping they can figure out what Truechoice has repeatedly been unable to resolve.
01-11-2013, 11:55 AM
#2705
im picking up very lightly used stance gr+ coilovers on sunday and i want to make sure the preload settings are correct.
Do any of you guys have any good links that i can read up on? Most of what i find when i search are those hellaflush websites.
Do any of you guys have any good links that i can read up on? Most of what i find when i search are those hellaflush websites.
01-11-2013, 05:18 PM
#2711
you guys and your PAX fantasy, if you went to the road race community and proposed an index to equalize competition among the classes they'd run your @ss out of town tarred & feathered on a rail ... they only tolerate it for Solo because in their eyes were all a bunch of wannabes any way and all they care about is the revenue stream we provide to support their own cause ...
01-12-2013, 06:07 PM
#2716
Tire testing season starts today:
Tire Test Results : Dunlop Direzza ZII Introductory Track Drive
Maybe Rick Ruth was right to up the STX PAX this year.
Tire Test Results : Dunlop Direzza ZII Introductory Track Drive
Maybe Rick Ruth was right to up the STX PAX this year.
The way PAX works with only once a year modification it looks like ST will be ahead of the curve, especially if the Tire Rack test results and Dunlop materials are a true indication of the new tires' performance. I suspect the gains in the ST trim won't be as high though.
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01-14-2013, 02:38 PM
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Mark -
Did changing your trans in the cold freeze some brain cells ? :-) We've never tested the Michelin PSS (Max Performance Tire) directly against the Extreme Performance tires you mentioned above.
Maybe you are referring to a magazine sponsored test done at our facility with guest drivers in the past ??? If so, that wasn't us, just the cars and the facility.
Hope to see you at some events this year,
Chris Harvey
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Did changing your trans in the cold freeze some brain cells ? :-) We've never tested the Michelin PSS (Max Performance Tire) directly against the Extreme Performance tires you mentioned above.
Maybe you are referring to a magazine sponsored test done at our facility with guest drivers in the past ??? If so, that wasn't us, just the cars and the facility.
Hope to see you at some events this year,
Chris Harvey
Tire Rack
01-14-2013, 09:50 PM
#2719
must have, could have sworn I saw a Dunlop Z1 Star Spec tested against the PSS
if I was wrong then I appreciate you pointing it out
just out of curiosity, why would you run a comparison test between two tires (ZI vs ZII) on two different cars without swapping them to take that variable out?
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if I was wrong then I appreciate you pointing it out
just out of curiosity, why would you run a comparison test between two tires (ZI vs ZII) on two different cars without swapping them to take that variable out?
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01-15-2013, 08:39 AM
#2721
This was more than a little surprising to me as well. This is a casual comparison and not the one we're all waiting for, but still. Seems silly that in a performance test you'd remove all variables save the tires.
01-15-2013, 09:26 AM
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Their were several reasons we used the two car approach for this test.
- Multiple drivers. While the data presented in this comparision was an average of times set by Woody and I. Several other staff and guests had the opportunity to drive on the ZII during this product introduction as well. Swapping tires on and off a single car wasn't practical with the time available.
-Direct feedback. Jumping immediately from one car to another with out taking the 10-15 minute break to swap tires over makes for more consistent track conditions and driver feedback. The track surface temperature is more consistent (think partly cloudy day) and the wind plays less of a factor on water depth when the sprinklers are used for wet testing.
-The cars are identical spec, within a few hundred miles of each other and the alignment is checked on a regular basis. We trade for new cars every 12-18 months to keep them "fresh".
Hope this helps clarify the "why" .
We plan to do a complete test of the new extreme performance tires once the weather warms up this Spring and all of the new players are available. I believe Andy Hollis and GRM also have plans to do the same.
-Chris
- Multiple drivers. While the data presented in this comparision was an average of times set by Woody and I. Several other staff and guests had the opportunity to drive on the ZII during this product introduction as well. Swapping tires on and off a single car wasn't practical with the time available.
-Direct feedback. Jumping immediately from one car to another with out taking the 10-15 minute break to swap tires over makes for more consistent track conditions and driver feedback. The track surface temperature is more consistent (think partly cloudy day) and the wind plays less of a factor on water depth when the sprinklers are used for wet testing.
-The cars are identical spec, within a few hundred miles of each other and the alignment is checked on a regular basis. We trade for new cars every 12-18 months to keep them "fresh".
Hope this helps clarify the "why" .
We plan to do a complete test of the new extreme performance tires once the weather warms up this Spring and all of the new players are available. I believe Andy Hollis and GRM also have plans to do the same.
-Chris
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