New BS pecking order?
11-18-2008, 10:49 AM
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Specs!
Any eagle-eyed person from the My350Z forum spotted the 370Z specs posted on nissannews.com which are now taken down. They saved the pdf's and I've attached them.
OVERVIEW
Wheelbase: 100.4 inches
Curb weight:
- MT - 370Z - 3232 lbs, 370Z Touring - 3278 lbs
- AT - 370Z - 3269 lbs, 370Z Touring - 3314 lbs
Horsepower: 332 max, torque: 270 lb-ft
Brakes: The sport package gets you: 14-inch 4-piston front, 13.8-inch rear, 2-piston.
Coefficient of drag (front): 0.29 (sport package)
Weight distribution % F/R: 54 / 46
OVERVIEW
Wheelbase: 100.4 inches
Curb weight:
- MT - 370Z - 3232 lbs, 370Z Touring - 3278 lbs
- AT - 370Z - 3269 lbs, 370Z Touring - 3314 lbs
Horsepower: 332 max, torque: 270 lb-ft
Brakes: The sport package gets you: 14-inch 4-piston front, 13.8-inch rear, 2-piston.
Coefficient of drag (front): 0.29 (sport package)
Weight distribution % F/R: 54 / 46
11-18-2008, 11:05 AM
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Nissan has done a really good job of keeping this quiet, better than most. I have been waiting for one of the online pubs to break the embargo, but no one has.
No matter, I am sure every forum will be on fire with all the stuff by 9:01am tomorrow.
No matter, I am sure every forum will be on fire with all the stuff by 9:01am tomorrow.
11-18-2008, 11:31 AM
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Using the standard wheel & tire package (18's with 245/45/18 rear tires), the final drive of 3.692, the redline of 7,500rpms and the 1st two gear ratios, max speeds in 1st and 2nd gears are as follows:
1st 43mph
2nd 69mph
These will be shorter on race tires (~64mph in 2nd on 285/30/18 A6's) so the car will be geared well for solo competition.
1st 43mph
2nd 69mph
These will be shorter on race tires (~64mph in 2nd on 285/30/18 A6's) so the car will be geared well for solo competition.
11-18-2008, 11:34 AM
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Any eagle-eyed person from the My350Z forum spotted the 370Z specs posted on nissannews.com which are now taken down. They saved the pdf's and I've attached them.
OVERVIEW
Wheelbase: 100.4 inches
Curb weight:
- MT - 370Z - 3232 lbs, 370Z Touring - 3278 lbs
- AT - 370Z - 3269 lbs, 370Z Touring - 3314 lbs
Horsepower: 332 max, torque: 270 lb-ft
Brakes: The sport package gets you: 14-inch 4-piston front, 13.8-inch rear, 2-piston.
Coefficient of drag (front): 0.29 (sport package)
Weight distribution % F/R: 54 / 46
OVERVIEW
Wheelbase: 100.4 inches
Curb weight:
- MT - 370Z - 3232 lbs, 370Z Touring - 3278 lbs
- AT - 370Z - 3269 lbs, 370Z Touring - 3314 lbs
Horsepower: 332 max, torque: 270 lb-ft
Brakes: The sport package gets you: 14-inch 4-piston front, 13.8-inch rear, 2-piston.
Coefficient of drag (front): 0.29 (sport package)
Weight distribution % F/R: 54 / 46
11-18-2008, 11:35 AM
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Using the standard wheel & tire package (18's with 245/45/18 rear tires), the final drive of 3.692, the redline of 7,500rpms and the 1st two gear ratios, max speeds in 1st and 2nd gears are as follows:
1st 43mph
2nd 69mph
These will be shorter on race tires (~64mph in 2nd on 285/30/18 A6's) so the car will be geared well for solo competition.
1st 43mph
2nd 69mph
These will be shorter on race tires (~64mph in 2nd on 285/30/18 A6's) so the car will be geared well for solo competition.
11-18-2008, 12:43 PM
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11-18-2008, 10:07 PM
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I thought I read that in order to get the LSD you have to have the sport package, which means you would be stuck with the 19's. For some of us Kuhmo faithful, thast doesn't sound so hot.
On a better note, they did mention switching to a true double wishbone instead of a virtual multilink, so perhaps this means that the camber adjustment has changed.
JR
On a better note, they did mention switching to a true double wishbone instead of a virtual multilink, so perhaps this means that the camber adjustment has changed.
JR
11-18-2008, 10:22 PM
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11-19-2008, 11:20 AM
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370Z *data directly from Nissan media preview guide.
Unfortunately we still can’t talk about driving the car, that info is on lock down until Dec 1, 2008.
Dimensions: 100.4” wheelbase, 167.1” overall length, 61” front track, 62.8” rear track, 72.6” wide, 52.1” tall. *these spec should be from a car equipped with 19” wheels.
Power: 3.7 li DOHC 24-Valve, 332hp @ 7000, that is +26hp over 2008. 270lb-ft @5200. 7500 redline.
Weight: You can not compare the current car directly to the 2008, or previous cars, because Nissan has “simplified” the model by offering only two trim levels for 2010, Base and Touring – and only two options can be added to those, Sport pkg and Nav. Our preview car was a Base with Sport pkg - this is the car you would likely buy if you wanted to race it. Peter Bedrosian was on hand for our demo, he was the project manager on the GTR and the 370Z. He told us that the 2010 Base w/sport pkg would be most comparable to a 2008 Enthusiast, it would also be the closest replacement for the already proven 2006 Track.
A Base w/sport should weigh about 88lbs less than an 08’ Ent (we will actually get the car on the scales next week when we have one for a few days), I believe this weight is still higher than an 06’ Trk.
They made big gains in torsion rigidity, 30% frt and 22% rear for the body. Weight balance listed as 54/46%.
S Drive: the blip down shift
. Why the hell did Porsche, Ferrari or any of the so called super-car builders not do this first. You can turn it off, if you think you can do a better job than the car. The dash also has an indicator that shows what gear you are in. No matter what gear you go from-to, even skip a gear, and it will give you a dead on rev match.
TC and Stability can be turned 100% off, just press one button – once.
Suspension: is now lighter and stronger, completely new aluminum cradle. New front double-wishbone. Rear 4-link is now stronger and lighter. Revised shocks.
NO front camber adjustment.
They claim this stronger suspension is the reason they did not need to build in front camber adjustment. 
New sport brakes, 14” frt, 13.8” rear.
19” wheels are Rays forged, with Bridgestone RE050A tires.
More rear cargo space. The original brace is still there, but has been inverted, so it is under the floor. An additional brace has been added right behind the seats.
Sport pkg: Viscous
LSD, S-drive, 19” wheels, frt/rear spoiler, Sport brakes. *a base car with 18”s will not be able to get an LSD.
Base price: $29.930
My initial thinking has this as a BS car.
Other important info.... No plans for a Nismo model at this time, I worked that question in to our conversation three different ways to try and get a slip up, but no plans to build one - I guess the market for a clapped-out two seater is not good enough to support building/crash testing another Nismo, this was not a big seller for them. However, there will be a line of Nismo parts. Our tester had a Nismo diff and oil cooler installed, it was going to the track when we were done with it.
I will post a few pics and maybe a video later, I don't have a lot, we were more interested in driving it than looking at it.
Unfortunately we still can’t talk about driving the car, that info is on lock down until Dec 1, 2008.
Dimensions: 100.4” wheelbase, 167.1” overall length, 61” front track, 62.8” rear track, 72.6” wide, 52.1” tall. *these spec should be from a car equipped with 19” wheels.
Power: 3.7 li DOHC 24-Valve, 332hp @ 7000, that is +26hp over 2008. 270lb-ft @5200. 7500 redline.
Weight: You can not compare the current car directly to the 2008, or previous cars, because Nissan has “simplified” the model by offering only two trim levels for 2010, Base and Touring – and only two options can be added to those, Sport pkg and Nav. Our preview car was a Base with Sport pkg - this is the car you would likely buy if you wanted to race it. Peter Bedrosian was on hand for our demo, he was the project manager on the GTR and the 370Z. He told us that the 2010 Base w/sport pkg would be most comparable to a 2008 Enthusiast, it would also be the closest replacement for the already proven 2006 Track.
A Base w/sport should weigh about 88lbs less than an 08’ Ent (we will actually get the car on the scales next week when we have one for a few days), I believe this weight is still higher than an 06’ Trk.
They made big gains in torsion rigidity, 30% frt and 22% rear for the body. Weight balance listed as 54/46%.
S Drive: the blip down shift
. Why the hell did Porsche, Ferrari or any of the so called super-car builders not do this first. You can turn it off, if you think you can do a better job than the car. The dash also has an indicator that shows what gear you are in. No matter what gear you go from-to, even skip a gear, and it will give you a dead on rev match. TC and Stability can be turned 100% off, just press one button – once.
Suspension: is now lighter and stronger, completely new aluminum cradle. New front double-wishbone. Rear 4-link is now stronger and lighter. Revised shocks.
NO front camber adjustment.
They claim this stronger suspension is the reason they did not need to build in front camber adjustment. New sport brakes, 14” frt, 13.8” rear.
19” wheels are Rays forged, with Bridgestone RE050A tires.
More rear cargo space. The original brace is still there, but has been inverted, so it is under the floor. An additional brace has been added right behind the seats.
Sport pkg: Viscous
LSD, S-drive, 19” wheels, frt/rear spoiler, Sport brakes. *a base car with 18”s will not be able to get an LSD. Base price: $29.930
My initial thinking has this as a BS car.
Other important info.... No plans for a Nismo model at this time, I worked that question in to our conversation three different ways to try and get a slip up, but no plans to build one - I guess the market for a clapped-out two seater is not good enough to support building/crash testing another Nismo, this was not a big seller for them. However, there will be a line of Nismo parts. Our tester had a Nismo diff and oil cooler installed, it was going to the track when we were done with it.
I will post a few pics and maybe a video later, I don't have a lot, we were more interested in driving it than looking at it.
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11-19-2008, 11:52 AM
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I'm thinking BS as well - hopefully the new Z will bring more folks out to play.
+1 I've yet to see a compelling reason to switch to an R3 or the new Z...
11-19-2008, 05:39 PM
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Given the current economy, the escalating cost of autocrossing in general, and the user friendliness of the '04-'08 RX8 (fun to drive, easy to set up and relatively cheap in the used car market), I'm glad to hear that the new Z (or the R3, for that matter) isn't shaping up to be a class changer...the last thing BS needs right now is moving the "pay to play" from the low teens to $30k plus...
11-20-2008, 10:30 PM
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A quick test of the 370Z S-drive.... Keep in mind we only had the car for a short time, so our test was rather tame due to being on a public street.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OehkfnDWixA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OehkfnDWixA
11-23-2008, 04:35 PM
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More data for Jason to digest with the 370Z testing:
Our estimated weight calcs:
3225 Nissan listed curb weight 2005 Track
- 52 spare/tools/mats
- 35 muffler
- 28 285 710's vs OEM tires
- 31 3/4 tank fuel
+10 CT-1 frt sway bar
+ 7 muffler delete pipe
3096 Estimated race trim weight
3165 Actual race trim weight,HPT scales
We assumed from this that the 3225 curb was a bit on the low side.
For testing I would guess a full tank would be best to minimize rear wheel spin.WE always started runs with 7/8 to full tank.
Our estimated weight calcs:
3225 Nissan listed curb weight 2005 Track
- 52 spare/tools/mats
- 35 muffler
- 28 285 710's vs OEM tires
- 31 3/4 tank fuel
+10 CT-1 frt sway bar
+ 7 muffler delete pipe
3096 Estimated race trim weight
3165 Actual race trim weight,HPT scales
We assumed from this that the 3225 curb was a bit on the low side.
For testing I would guess a full tank would be best to minimize rear wheel spin.WE always started runs with 7/8 to full tank.
11-23-2008, 09:43 PM
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Chike,
We've already tried having him drive my car. I'm slightly faster in it, if you can believe that one.
The weight is looking compelling, Carter, but I don't think I can afford to move just yet. I still owe way too much on my car. Unless someone wants to offer me a codrive next year, I'll be driving my Z.
370 sure is purty though.....
We've already tried having him drive my car. I'm slightly faster in it, if you can believe that one.
The weight is looking compelling, Carter, but I don't think I can afford to move just yet. I still owe way too much on my car. Unless someone wants to offer me a codrive next year, I'll be driving my Z.
370 sure is purty though.....