Fastest RX-8 1/4 mile time?
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Congratulations every body the 350z accelerates faster then the RX-8 wopptyfu*kindoo. I had no idea I thought I was going to be able to smoke dem 350s at the light. (Insert sarcasm here ^)
If you would kindly leave the forum 350 it would be much appreciated as your soul purpose is now fulfill.
And btw there is no "Torque at the Wheels" you can measure it there but there is no physical torque.
If you would kindly leave the forum 350 it would be much appreciated as your soul purpose is now fulfill.
And btw there is no "Torque at the Wheels" you can measure it there but there is no physical torque.
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Re: Re: Gear Ratio Comparisson
Originally posted by revhappy
Great post, RX8-TX. Gearing is so often overlooked, but a high reving engine can really use it to its advantage. That being said, some of us thought the gearing was a bit too conservative given the weight of the car and wheel size. I think the Renesis's fuel economy and emissions issues were the main cause of that.
Great post, RX8-TX. Gearing is so often overlooked, but a high reving engine can really use it to its advantage. That being said, some of us thought the gearing was a bit too conservative given the weight of the car and wheel size. I think the Renesis's fuel economy and emissions issues were the main cause of that.
A car with the 8s characteristics would have benefited from a taller final gear to keep revs higher, or a shorter final ratio?? (keeping drive ratios intact.)
Thanks again for the compliments man! (long live the Elise!)
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Originally posted by O.R.A.
You don't need much of a stretch to go to 60 or 70 mph. It does happen every day in the real world.
You don't need much of a stretch to go to 60 or 70 mph. It does happen every day in the real world.
In other words, I would love to try a 500+hp car, who wouldn't?
But for a daily friendly driver, the 8 is no slouch. People can say whatever they want. But in the end: I drive it everyday, and I don't have a reason to complaint about it (none)
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Re: Re: Re: Gear Ratio Comparisson
Originally posted by RX8-TX
Thanks Revhappy!
A car with the 8s characteristics would have benefited from a taller final gear to keep revs higher, or a shorter final ratio?? (keeping drive ratios intact.)
Thanks again for the compliments man! (long live the Elise!)
Thanks Revhappy!
A car with the 8s characteristics would have benefited from a taller final gear to keep revs higher, or a shorter final ratio?? (keeping drive ratios intact.)
Thanks again for the compliments man! (long live the Elise!)
#131
Originally posted by Rick King
I want to talk to the guy who posted this originally. I think I read he signed on as someone else. But I think his point was the reason he considered an RX-8 was it was quick. And when he found it wasn't he bought something else. An AWD Evo.
I hope everyone jumps all over me for what I am about to say. Unless you are one hell of a driver 99% of you will never get the full performance out of any car. Unless you take YOUR car to the track over and over. There is a good chanch YOU"LL NEVER learn how to really drive the car. But lets say most of us are inline to drive John Forces car when he retires. We are just that good, great drivers. But, we haven another problem. We just can't master that tree. We have been to the track three times in the last year. We have never felt what it's like to race under pressure. In a money round...........Our reactions just suck. Too often I thing many people buy a car then aren't happy cause they can't drive the car.
Mr. EVO - have you been to the track? I would think an AWD car might handle better than a RWD car. Have you tangled with the 300 h.p. AWD Subaru yet.
What difference does it matter how quick the car is if YOU can't drive the car? The magazines say it runs a best of 14.5........ If every RX-8 ran 14.5 and I caught you sleeping at the tree more than likely I could run slower than that and beat you..
14.5 is quick. 15.0 is quick 15.5, isn't bad either. I think the car was designed to do something else then run 1320' and turn. How much of your driving is devoted to 100% performance? Or do you really need a quick car to hide your poor driving skills?
If your EVO runs like the one in my car club you'll run 13.9 in the 1/4. While that's quicker the the RX-8. I have an automatic FWD Cavalier that would be all the match you ever wanted on the track. Think about it A Cavalier beating and EVO. So while you're pointing out how quick your car is in this forum why can't you just blow my doors off with your higher h.p. AWD car...?
I want to talk to the guy who posted this originally. I think I read he signed on as someone else. But I think his point was the reason he considered an RX-8 was it was quick. And when he found it wasn't he bought something else. An AWD Evo.
I hope everyone jumps all over me for what I am about to say. Unless you are one hell of a driver 99% of you will never get the full performance out of any car. Unless you take YOUR car to the track over and over. There is a good chanch YOU"LL NEVER learn how to really drive the car. But lets say most of us are inline to drive John Forces car when he retires. We are just that good, great drivers. But, we haven another problem. We just can't master that tree. We have been to the track three times in the last year. We have never felt what it's like to race under pressure. In a money round...........Our reactions just suck. Too often I thing many people buy a car then aren't happy cause they can't drive the car.
Mr. EVO - have you been to the track? I would think an AWD car might handle better than a RWD car. Have you tangled with the 300 h.p. AWD Subaru yet.
What difference does it matter how quick the car is if YOU can't drive the car? The magazines say it runs a best of 14.5........ If every RX-8 ran 14.5 and I caught you sleeping at the tree more than likely I could run slower than that and beat you..
14.5 is quick. 15.0 is quick 15.5, isn't bad either. I think the car was designed to do something else then run 1320' and turn. How much of your driving is devoted to 100% performance? Or do you really need a quick car to hide your poor driving skills?
If your EVO runs like the one in my car club you'll run 13.9 in the 1/4. While that's quicker the the RX-8. I have an automatic FWD Cavalier that would be all the match you ever wanted on the track. Think about it A Cavalier beating and EVO. So while you're pointing out how quick your car is in this forum why can't you just blow my doors off with your higher h.p. AWD car...?
Your friend who runs the 13.9 either doesn't know how to launch the Evo, is in crazy high elevations with high temps to match, or just plain cant drive. I did a 13.9 when I bogged my launch. And I do mean BOGGED. My last 3 runs at the track go like this: 1st run, 13.5 @ 99 mph short shifting with shitty 60 foot (only 1.90). Next run 13.9 @ 99 mph bogging badly and still short shifting (6800-6900 rpm). Last run 1.775 60 ft, MISSED 3RD, and still ran 13.9. This was my second time ever drag racing the car. The first time drag racing, I couldn't get any traction due to freezing temperatures and stock summer tires. I managed a 13.6 @ 101 with 1.99 60 ft, lighting up all 4 off the line.
However, this thread is not about MY 1/4 mile times, it's about the fastest stock RX-8 1/4 mile time. Please try to keep it on topic. Not like it isn't big enough already.
P.S. As far as handling is concerned, let me finish the video I'm currently editing of my car in action. I think you'll see that I put it through quite a lot. Can you say, 4WD drifting... in the snow? :D I also drive the car very hard where I can. Like RevHappy, I have a few local roads with some great twistys that I love to hit up. Of course I never get it to the limits, but theres no point in doing so on public roads. That's what tracks are for. Can't wait for AutoX season. And for the road course at Englishtown to get finished.
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350z, we all know the 8 has a slower 5-60 time, but once again you are off
R&T and a Euro mag has the 8 at 5-60 in 7.5secs
The car has to be run at high rpms to get the most out of it, but it has also had higher reviews by almost every mag than the 350z. Canzoomer has finished his stage one mod to get back to better maps for the car, and it adds 25hp to the 8. I am sure it will surprise a few z's at a light if that is what is important to you??
R&T and a Euro mag has the 8 at 5-60 in 7.5secs
The car has to be run at high rpms to get the most out of it, but it has also had higher reviews by almost every mag than the 350z. Canzoomer has finished his stage one mod to get back to better maps for the car, and it adds 25hp to the 8. I am sure it will surprise a few z's at a light if that is what is important to you??
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Originally posted by Broker73
350z, we all know the 8 has a slower 5-60 time, but once again you are off
R&T and a Euro mag has the 8 at 5-60 in 7.5secs
The car has to be run at high rpms to get the most out of it, but it has also had higher reviews by almost every mag than the 350z. Canzoomer has finished his stage one mod to get back to better maps for the car, and it adds 25hp to the 8. I am sure it will surprise a few z's at a light if that is what is important to you??
350z, we all know the 8 has a slower 5-60 time, but once again you are off
R&T and a Euro mag has the 8 at 5-60 in 7.5secs
The car has to be run at high rpms to get the most out of it, but it has also had higher reviews by almost every mag than the 350z. Canzoomer has finished his stage one mod to get back to better maps for the car, and it adds 25hp to the 8. I am sure it will surprise a few z's at a light if that is what is important to you??
#136
Originally posted by mikeb
who is carol shelby
who is carol shelby
He also coined the phrase "Horsepower sells cars, raw torque wins races"
more info here
Originally posted by IkeWRX
All I have to say is...
Carroll Shelby > Paul Yaw
All I have to say is...
Carroll Shelby > Paul Yaw
Is it possible that "Ike's World" operates on a different set of Physical Laws ????
Ike I hope you read that article on torque by Paul Yaw you might have learned something....... although I doubt you need to understand physics selling wine for a living.
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Mr. EVO. I think you came here and posed the question of WHAT'S THE BEST E.T. you RX-8 guys are getting? Already knowing the answers you were going to receive. When I said I have a Cavalier and was willing to race your mighty EVO for 1320.' All of a sudden friends in your club in EVO's ran low 13's. I think the whole point of your post was to draw attention to the fact the might EVO, fill in the blanks with your favorite car, is quicker than the RX-8. A smart person might have been able to figure that out by reading a few trends here or a few magazine articles.There was no need for you to tell anyone how great your EVO is. There is no reason for someone with a 350Z to come here and slam the RX-8.
Someone said they never paid any attention to American cars. I would still race YOU in your EVO with my automatic American made Z24 Cavalier. Just to prove while your EVO is quicker than the quickest RX-8. It's not the quickest dog in the pack with you driving................. I am really not interested in racing your friends. They didn't ask the question, you did. But since someone brought up American cars I would be happy to race your friends with the American car you'll find behind door #2 at my house. I sell Chevrolets and Mazdas. I haven't build a Mazda yet. I have a 13 second, street tired, automatic street driven Z24. I also have a street driven automatic stock block twin turbo SS. It's only 2 WD. On slicks it's run 9.9's on many tracks and traps @ 135 - 137 mph. It's also NHRA legal.
I am real happy you're happy with your EVO. It's people like you who allow me to earn a living selling cars. When you spend 30k for your next car I sincerely hope your happy. But please don't rub salt into the eyes of the owners of the cars you passed over. Along the way to buying your Mighty EVO, or what ever. Stay on your EVO web pages unless you have something positive to say.
And please keep buying cars. Shop 87 dealers if yo want the next time you buy your car. The dealers always have NEW cars on the lot and money in the bank. While you drive a used EVO and make payments.
Hopefully, we are now on the same page. Enjoy your EVO. Hope it's still running after you're finished making payments. You do sound like a car guy.
Someone said they never paid any attention to American cars. I would still race YOU in your EVO with my automatic American made Z24 Cavalier. Just to prove while your EVO is quicker than the quickest RX-8. It's not the quickest dog in the pack with you driving................. I am really not interested in racing your friends. They didn't ask the question, you did. But since someone brought up American cars I would be happy to race your friends with the American car you'll find behind door #2 at my house. I sell Chevrolets and Mazdas. I haven't build a Mazda yet. I have a 13 second, street tired, automatic street driven Z24. I also have a street driven automatic stock block twin turbo SS. It's only 2 WD. On slicks it's run 9.9's on many tracks and traps @ 135 - 137 mph. It's also NHRA legal.
I am real happy you're happy with your EVO. It's people like you who allow me to earn a living selling cars. When you spend 30k for your next car I sincerely hope your happy. But please don't rub salt into the eyes of the owners of the cars you passed over. Along the way to buying your Mighty EVO, or what ever. Stay on your EVO web pages unless you have something positive to say.
And please keep buying cars. Shop 87 dealers if yo want the next time you buy your car. The dealers always have NEW cars on the lot and money in the bank. While you drive a used EVO and make payments.
Hopefully, we are now on the same page. Enjoy your EVO. Hope it's still running after you're finished making payments. You do sound like a car guy.
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Originally posted by Rick King
Someone said they never paid any attention to American cars. I would still race YOU in your EVO with my automatic American made Z24 Cavalier. Just to prove while your EVO is quicker than the quickest RX-8. It's not the quickest dog in the pack with you driving................. I am really not interested in racing your friends. They didn't ask the question, you did. But since someone brought up American cars I would be happy to race your friends with the American car you'll find behind door #2 at my house. I sell Chevrolets and Mazdas. I haven't build a Mazda yet. I have a 13 second, street tired, automatic street driven Z24. I also have a street driven automatic stock block twin turbo SS. It's only 2 WD. On slicks it's run 9.9's on many tracks and traps @ 135 - 137 mph. It's also NHRA legal.
Someone said they never paid any attention to American cars. I would still race YOU in your EVO with my automatic American made Z24 Cavalier. Just to prove while your EVO is quicker than the quickest RX-8. It's not the quickest dog in the pack with you driving................. I am really not interested in racing your friends. They didn't ask the question, you did. But since someone brought up American cars I would be happy to race your friends with the American car you'll find behind door #2 at my house. I sell Chevrolets and Mazdas. I haven't build a Mazda yet. I have a 13 second, street tired, automatic street driven Z24. I also have a street driven automatic stock block twin turbo SS. It's only 2 WD. On slicks it's run 9.9's on many tracks and traps @ 135 - 137 mph. It's also NHRA legal.
#142
Originally posted by Rick King
Mr. EVO. I think you came here and posed the question of WHAT'S THE BEST E.T. you RX-8 guys are getting? Already knowing the answers you were going to receive. When I said I have a Cavalier and was willing to race your mighty EVO for 1320.' All of a sudden friends in your club in EVO's ran low 13's. I think the whole point of your post was to draw attention to the fact the might EVO, fill in the blanks with your favorite car, is quicker than the RX-8. A smart person might have been able to figure that out by reading a few trends here or a few magazine articles.There was no need for you to tell anyone how great your EVO is. There is no reason for someone with a 350Z to come here and slam the RX-8.
Someone said they never paid any attention to American cars. I would still race YOU in your EVO with my automatic American made Z24 Cavalier. Just to prove while your EVO is quicker than the quickest RX-8. It's not the quickest dog in the pack with you driving................. I am really not interested in racing your friends. They didn't ask the question, you did. But since someone brought up American cars I would be happy to race your friends with the American car you'll find behind door #2 at my house. I sell Chevrolets and Mazdas. I haven't build a Mazda yet. I have a 13 second, street tired, automatic street driven Z24. I also have a street driven automatic stock block twin turbo SS. It's only 2 WD. On slicks it's run 9.9's on many tracks and traps @ 135 - 137 mph. It's also NHRA legal.
I am real happy you're happy with your EVO. It's people like you who allow me to earn a living selling cars. When you spend 30k for your next car I sincerely hope your happy. But please don't rub salt into the eyes of the owners of the cars you passed over. Along the way to buying your Mighty EVO, or what ever. Stay on your EVO web pages unless you have something positive to say.
And please keep buying cars. Shop 87 dealers if yo want the next time you buy your car. The dealers always have NEW cars on the lot and money in the bank. While you drive a used EVO and make payments.
Hopefully, we are now on the same page. Enjoy your EVO. Hope it's still running after you're finished making payments. You do sound like a car guy.
Mr. EVO. I think you came here and posed the question of WHAT'S THE BEST E.T. you RX-8 guys are getting? Already knowing the answers you were going to receive. When I said I have a Cavalier and was willing to race your mighty EVO for 1320.' All of a sudden friends in your club in EVO's ran low 13's. I think the whole point of your post was to draw attention to the fact the might EVO, fill in the blanks with your favorite car, is quicker than the RX-8. A smart person might have been able to figure that out by reading a few trends here or a few magazine articles.There was no need for you to tell anyone how great your EVO is. There is no reason for someone with a 350Z to come here and slam the RX-8.
Someone said they never paid any attention to American cars. I would still race YOU in your EVO with my automatic American made Z24 Cavalier. Just to prove while your EVO is quicker than the quickest RX-8. It's not the quickest dog in the pack with you driving................. I am really not interested in racing your friends. They didn't ask the question, you did. But since someone brought up American cars I would be happy to race your friends with the American car you'll find behind door #2 at my house. I sell Chevrolets and Mazdas. I haven't build a Mazda yet. I have a 13 second, street tired, automatic street driven Z24. I also have a street driven automatic stock block twin turbo SS. It's only 2 WD. On slicks it's run 9.9's on many tracks and traps @ 135 - 137 mph. It's also NHRA legal.
I am real happy you're happy with your EVO. It's people like you who allow me to earn a living selling cars. When you spend 30k for your next car I sincerely hope your happy. But please don't rub salt into the eyes of the owners of the cars you passed over. Along the way to buying your Mighty EVO, or what ever. Stay on your EVO web pages unless you have something positive to say.
And please keep buying cars. Shop 87 dealers if yo want the next time you buy your car. The dealers always have NEW cars on the lot and money in the bank. While you drive a used EVO and make payments.
Hopefully, we are now on the same page. Enjoy your EVO. Hope it's still running after you're finished making payments. You do sound like a car guy.
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Jayer, the original poster said he considered an RX-8 but went with the Mighty EVO cause it was quicker. He also said a friend of his said an RX-8 ran 14.2 and Jayer said that was BS.
I've seen magazines that posted 14.5/ I've seen magazines that said 15's. I think the car is a mid to low 15 second car............. I wouldn't dump the the clutch at 7,500 rpm to make my RZ-8 run it best. But that's me. The car does more than run 1320'. I think I pointed out while the EVO is quicker than the RX-8. There are other cars faster..
I've seen magazines that posted 14.5/ I've seen magazines that said 15's. I think the car is a mid to low 15 second car............. I wouldn't dump the the clutch at 7,500 rpm to make my RZ-8 run it best. But that's me. The car does more than run 1320'. I think I pointed out while the EVO is quicker than the RX-8. There are other cars faster..
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WTF??? 10 pages of useless bickering...
Someone please post some slips of a STOCK RX8 on 94 and lower gas!
From what I have seen thus far, judging by the trap speeds that the 8 is acheiving, it is a high 14, low 15 sec car and should not even be compared to the 350Z, EVO, STI because the 1/4 does not seem to be it's strong point.
Someone please post some slips of a STOCK RX8 on 94 and lower gas!
From what I have seen thus far, judging by the trap speeds that the 8 is acheiving, it is a high 14, low 15 sec car and should not even be compared to the 350Z, EVO, STI because the 1/4 does not seem to be it's strong point.
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Originally posted by EP3_DC5
WTF??? 10 pages of useless bickering...
Someone please post some slips of a STOCK RX8 on 94 and lower gas!
WTF??? 10 pages of useless bickering...
Someone please post some slips of a STOCK RX8 on 94 and lower gas!
Now let's see the slips! :D
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I was going to try and run a better E.T. then my previous 14.5 today but it's cloudy and the only track that we have open over the winter months is closed do to our cold and cloudy day. I surely will be racing next weekend if the weather permits it. Car is still bone stock and broken in again. I m going to make a couple of runs and dial in my 60 foot times with 93 octane, after that I'm using my usual higher octane. I'll have a video of the runs to.
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Originally posted by Judge Ito
I was going to try and run a better E.T. then my previous 14.5 today but it's cloudy and the only track that we have open over the winter months is closed do to our cold and cloudy day. I surely will be racing next weekend if the weather permits it. Car is still bone stock and broken in again. I m going to make a couple of runs and dial in my 60 foot times with 93 octane, after that I'm using my usual higher octane. I'll have a video of the runs to.
I was going to try and run a better E.T. then my previous 14.5 today but it's cloudy and the only track that we have open over the winter months is closed do to our cold and cloudy day. I surely will be racing next weekend if the weather permits it. Car is still bone stock and broken in again. I m going to make a couple of runs and dial in my 60 foot times with 93 octane, after that I'm using my usual higher octane. I'll have a video of the runs to.
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On this topic. The RX-8 has kind of shot itself in the foot, now that I know the real reason the RX-8 is putting up disappointing numbers.
There are couple problems with time slips. If you are serious about the 1/4 mile, you probably aren't going to get an RX-8. So most RX-8 owners never thought about taking it to the strip in the first place. At least in the US that is, that's why I posted my Jap drag racing thread that no one responded to.
So those of us that do care are sitting here going, "show us the slips!". The second reason is that it is the winter and most drag strips were closed before the cars completed the break in period.
The EVO and RX-8 are very different cars, I don't even understand why they are being compared. The EVO is rally car, the RX-8 is a GT. The RX-8, if in competition with anything, is the G35.
I haven't driven an EVO yet, but I have driven the 350Z, G35 and the RX-8 multiple times.
The performance of the RX-8 is a little disappointing, I'll agree. But there is a reason for that, and I believe (despite everyone else) Mazda will eventually fix it. If not, CanZoomer already has.
I think most RX-8 don't even understand what they are missing. There car is putting 190 to the pavement, and just with correct fueling I believe it will hit the 215 Mazda originally intended. It will go from 14.5-15.2, to 13.9-14.6 without any other mods. That will make performance comparable to the G35.
Since the RX-8 is all about breathing, a good intake and exhaust will bring that down even more. It should make it a solid 13 second car at least.
But if that isn't enough for you, the RX-8 is very FI able, and kits are in the works. Mazdaspeed may even offer an option that will not void the warranty.
Now as far as the performance of a boosted RX-8. Use your imagination.
There are couple problems with time slips. If you are serious about the 1/4 mile, you probably aren't going to get an RX-8. So most RX-8 owners never thought about taking it to the strip in the first place. At least in the US that is, that's why I posted my Jap drag racing thread that no one responded to.
So those of us that do care are sitting here going, "show us the slips!". The second reason is that it is the winter and most drag strips were closed before the cars completed the break in period.
The EVO and RX-8 are very different cars, I don't even understand why they are being compared. The EVO is rally car, the RX-8 is a GT. The RX-8, if in competition with anything, is the G35.
I haven't driven an EVO yet, but I have driven the 350Z, G35 and the RX-8 multiple times.
The performance of the RX-8 is a little disappointing, I'll agree. But there is a reason for that, and I believe (despite everyone else) Mazda will eventually fix it. If not, CanZoomer already has.
I think most RX-8 don't even understand what they are missing. There car is putting 190 to the pavement, and just with correct fueling I believe it will hit the 215 Mazda originally intended. It will go from 14.5-15.2, to 13.9-14.6 without any other mods. That will make performance comparable to the G35.
Since the RX-8 is all about breathing, a good intake and exhaust will bring that down even more. It should make it a solid 13 second car at least.
But if that isn't enough for you, the RX-8 is very FI able, and kits are in the works. Mazdaspeed may even offer an option that will not void the warranty.
Now as far as the performance of a boosted RX-8. Use your imagination.
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Originally posted by jdwk
I think most RX-8 don't even understand what they are missing. There car is putting 190 to the pavement, and just with correct fueling I believe it will hit the 215 Mazda originally intended. It will go from 14.5-15.2, to 13.9-14.6 without any other mods. That will make performance comparable to the G35.
Since the RX-8 is all about breathing, a good intake and exhaust will bring that down even more. It should make it a solid 13 second car at least.
But if that isn't enough for you, the RX-8 is very FI able, and kits are in the works. Mazdaspeed may even offer an option that will not void the warranty.
Now as far as the performance of a boosted RX-8. Use your imagination.
I think most RX-8 don't even understand what they are missing. There car is putting 190 to the pavement, and just with correct fueling I believe it will hit the 215 Mazda originally intended. It will go from 14.5-15.2, to 13.9-14.6 without any other mods. That will make performance comparable to the G35.
Since the RX-8 is all about breathing, a good intake and exhaust will bring that down even more. It should make it a solid 13 second car at least.
But if that isn't enough for you, the RX-8 is very FI able, and kits are in the works. Mazdaspeed may even offer an option that will not void the warranty.
Now as far as the performance of a boosted RX-8. Use your imagination.
As for FI...well FI does not like high compression....and turbos don't like lots of heat.
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My best 1/4 mile time is 15.2. That with the tire preassure at 32 psi. However at the recent AutoX here in San Diego my 8 was very competative in the B stock class. Top time was by a s2000 at the low 59 second. 2nd, 3rd and 4th were really close. We were all in the 60 second range. My best time was 60.74, which put me in about 4th. However my best run was 60.180 but I hit to cone.
The 8 is slower in 1/4 mile than the 350z and s2000 but on the road track it second to none
The 8 is slower in 1/4 mile than the 350z and s2000 but on the road track it second to none