qtwre

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Lots of Canadian input here. I have an '07 Canadian car and I've had lots of fun drifting around in the snow this winter with only pressing the button once.

It's also fairly obvious when the computer is intervening on the track. I've forgotten to press the button before and the system cuts in pretty hard. I just press the button and I'm free from its limitations.

whitebeau

SpIcEz - where you from? does your TCS blink when spinning wheels in the snow around the 8-9k rpm range? fyi fuel cut kicks in at 9.2k so you'll be fine. test test test I don't want to have to drive with 'ballast' holding my laptop in the car

GlenAnderson

My car acts like Swoope's...but I'm also in the USA

SpIcEz

It turns on when I havent pressed the DSC button.

Do you mean, if I have it off, and I rev in the snow up to 8-9k does it blink ?

I'll have to check that, I dont usually have to rev up to 9k when drifting around in the snow.

Mobile

Just so we are 100% straight here. When you turn off DSC by pushing - then try and spin your tires, the traction control system intervenes and your DSC Indicator light (squiggly lines) illuminates?

Mobile

You don't need to rev that high - just get your tires spinning. Does your DSC Indicator (squiggly lines) light blink at any time after you turn off DSC by pressing?

SpIcEz

nope

GlenAnderson

I dont know about just spinning the tires...I do know that if you take an auto-x corner too aggressively with just DSC off, it will park the car and the squiggly light will come on.

Mobile

Which means both DSC and TC systems are disabled by pressing the DSC Off button. This is because traction control is a subsystem of DSC. There is no need to hold down the DCS button.

Brettus

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do you ever feel like doing this Mobile might be more productive

Mobile

LOL - I was just thinking that!

NotAPreppie

My USDM car with DSC behaves like Mobile's (I wrote similar earlier but didn't specify my car's nationality).

deadphoenix52

thought i'd ask this here, couldnt seem to find anything on it. i do go out to the occasional auto-x, and because its not too regular, i do forget to turn the DSC off all the way until the first major turn in the course, then i can only turn it partially off.

would it be a bad idea to pull the DSC/ABS fuse for the track/auto-x day. i bet i'd have to reset it but thats easily done. just wondering i there were any repercussions i dont anticipate. thanks, nick

Brettus

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Well if that fuse disables ABS as well as DSC you better start saving for some new tyres ....... Ask me how I know

deadphoenix52

lol, i am. there are 2 fuses for the dsc i think. There is a large 60A one labeled DSC/ABS, as well as a smaller, 30A fuse below it labeled just DSC. I'm thinking pulling those will let me turn the car off in between runs while im sitting in grid, and let the brakes cool properly, rather than leave it running so i dont have to remember to turn off DSC all the way.has anyone tried this or will i pioneer it. i think i read somewhere people were pulling at least one of the fuses for dyno runs...im not 100% sure tough.

Mobile

deadphoenix52

Rather then leave your car running, or pull fuses, just tape a note to your steering wheel or dash that says "TURN OFF DCS".

What we have been debating here is the fact that some drivers believe that you need to hold the DSC button to turn everything off - but other drivers armed with their own experiences, owners manual and service manual believe this to not be the case. Holding the DCS button does nothing more then pressing it, except to trigger an error condition in your DCS system as the computer thinks there's a short.

Your input would be appreciated:
If you turn off DSC by pressing, are you able to get the DSC Indicator light (squiggly lines) to illuminate? Try spinning up your tires and watch for the light.

chiketkd

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Very true. I forgot to turn the DSC off on my first Sunday run at the Dixie NT and dropped almost 4 seconds by my 2nd run!

Factory DSC is definitely not performance based - from my experience it'll cut the power anytime it detects wheelspin or the car sliding.

Mobile

I don't understand how you could not notice DCS being activated? I would think it would become apparent after the first corner?

GlenAnderson

Im sure he did notice in the 1st corner...that's why he dropped 4 secs off of his next run.

chiketkd

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Oh I noticed it alright, but I don't have the "mad tight skillz" to hold the button down while navigating an autocross course!
Correct.

Mobile

No doubt - I was just poking fun - he did state he lost 4 seconds on the run, not the corner.

Both of your input would be appreciated:
If you turn off DSC by pressing (not holding), are you able to get the DSC Indicator light (squiggly lines) to illuminate? Try spinning up your tires and watch for the light.

SpIcEz

On my way out of the parking at work today, I went sideways at 9k rpm with just the DSC button pushed once.

Now ABS breaking, no engine cut off except at the standard fuel cut off.

And more importantly, no squiggly lines.

GlenAnderson

Yes, I've had it happen to me on an autox course before.

qtwre

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I hope your engine was warm!

SpIcEz

Remote starters and a few runs around the block FTW!!