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Old 02-10-2008, 04:54 PM
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Adjusting camber/toe for BS

Is the camber adjustable on the 8? I thought camber plates weren't allowed for B Stock, but I've seen a couple of people list their camber settings. Maybe I misread and they weren't running BS.
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No camber plates needed on a A-arm suspension...camber can be adjusted in a fairly wide range from stock............
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Yes, camber is adjustable on this car front and rear from the factory. So is front and rear toe and front caster.
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Is information on that all in the manual (and if you're wondering "Why don't you just go look at the manual stupid", it's -10 degrees outside and I'm parked far away, and I don't wanna go get if it's not in there)?
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what info are you looking for? settings?

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Originally Posted by swoope
what info are you looking for? settings?

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The stock settings, how to adjust them (is it possible without taking in to a shop?), etc etc.
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You can adjust them by hand...but you would be better off taking it somewhere that is good...and telling them the specs you want.
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Originally Posted by wildside50
The stock settings, how to adjust them (is it possible without taking in to a shop?), etc etc.
stock settings are in the service manual.. you can find it around here. i think it is nailed to a sticky..

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-racing-25/alignment-settings-street-track-use-43308/


this is a sticky at the top of the page here...

lots of good info.... an i have been for a ride or two with trackaddict one track in the car mentioned..

it does, lets say very, very well..


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Hey there. As listed above.... If you're looking for how to adjust camber (and for the factory specs), it's listed in the factory service manual. Or, go see "Jeff the alignment Guy" who is local here in Richfield. Good rates, and he specializes in custom alignments. Don't recognize your username, but check out www.mnautox.com, if you haven't already, for the local autox scene.
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Originally Posted by iaus10
Hey there. As listed above.... If you're looking for how to adjust camber (and for the factory specs), it's listed in the factory service manual. Or, go see "Jeff the alignment Guy" who is local here in Richfield. Good rates, and he specializes in custom alignments. Don't recognize your username, but check out www.mnautox.com, if you haven't already, for the local autox scene.
Yeah, I've attended two mowog events so far, the Valley Fair events in 05 and 07. I was driving an SRT-4 (but not the same SRT-4) in both. I placed 126th in 05, and 153rd in 07. Hehe. Needless to say, I have some work to do. I don't really have any intention of adjusting the suspension, as I wouldn't even know where to start and I don't have the money to be trying new suspension settings until I find what I like. I'm sure there's more car than my driving ability can handle for a while.

I do intend to make a full season of this year, however, in my spanking new 8. My friend, Hepcat1920 (Neal), will be attending all season as well in his 8. Should be fun -- we'll see who sucks more. Probably me. He's had his car longer. Oh, and I suck.
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How tough are RX8's on the outside shoulder of tires, at stock alignment values?

It might make more sense, dollar wise, to spend a little for a more racy alignment, in terms of camber values...
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Originally Posted by mwood
How tough are RX8's on the outside shoulder of tires, at stock alignment values?

It might make more sense, dollar wise, to spend a little for a more racy alignment, in terms of camber values...

With stock width tires...OK...with wide ones...not great.

Although the -2+ deg some people run is killer on the inside on the street
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Originally Posted by dannobre
With stock width tires...OK...with wide ones...not great.

Although the -2+ deg some people run is killer on the inside on the street
Contrary to popular belief, aggressive toe settings will kill a tire a lot faster than camber. Combine aggressive toe with aggressive camber and you'll kill tires very quickly.

I run -1.8 F/-2.0 R camber (with zero toe front and rear) on a daily driven car, and I tend to get very decent life out of my street tires.
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Originally Posted by altiain
Contrary to popular belief, aggressive toe settings will kill a tire a lot faster than camber. Combine aggressive toe with aggressive camber and you'll kill tires very quickly.

I run -1.8 F/-2.0 R camber (with zero toe front and rear) on a daily driven car, and I tend to get very decent life out of my street tires.
You beat me to it...toe is the real killer of tires, for sure. Excessive camber doesn't help, but can be managed easily by flipping the tires on the rim...with directional tires, just flip and also swap sides.

For the OP, I was thinking going to -1.2f/-1.4r and keeping toe at effective zero front and rear. It would make the car much more fun to autocross, save outer sidewall wear and not be too abusive on inner tread, I would think.
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Originally Posted by mwood
You beat me to it...toe is the real killer of tires, for sure. Excessive camber doesn't help, but can be managed easily by flipping the tires on the rim...with directional tires, just flip and also swap sides.

For the OP, I was thinking going to -1.2f/-1.4r and keeping toe at effective zero front and rear. It would make the car much more fun to autocross, save outer sidewall wear and not be too abusive on inner tread, I would think.
I have two schools of thought in my rebuttal to your statement:

1) I am sure that a more agressive camber will improve handling for autox, but I am concerned with the effect of tire wear on on my daily driver.

2) I have absolutely no frame of reference. It might improve handling to change the suspension settings -- but how the heck would I know? I don't know what the stock suspension settings feel like at or near the limit. I've barely had the car a couple of weeks, and in the snow at that. All I know is FWD, and a souped up Neon (SRT-4) with 0 camber and no adjustability to begin with on 205 tires. I'm sure the stock suspension setttings will feel plenty nimble to me.
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Wild -

MWood and others recommendations are spot-on. I have 17K miles on my OE tires with a similar auto-x alignment and will likely get another 5 k before needing to replace. Lack of Toe and keeping proper air pressure is the key to extending the tire life.

I would recommend waiting on the alignment until after "pot hole" season is finished in MN. (Went to college in Mankato, I your road conditions well). Budget to get the alignment checked at a good shop at least once a year, it's worth it. ($50-$70) The MN boys on the forum can steer you to a good shop, plenty of them around the Twin Cities.

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