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I'm very leary of the SRT simply for one reason. Chrysler reliability, larger turbo and 3X the boost. I hear the neon has forged pistons, but seruiously....3X the boost? How reliable will this be in 30K miles? On a different note, has anyone heard about major engine problems with the RX-8? My father inlaw says he read somewhere that hundreds of owners were having major engine failure and had to have new engines??!!?? I'm not sure he knew 100% what he was talking about. Can anyone comment on this?
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Originally posted by Turbo Matty P
I'm very leary of the SRT simply for one reason. Chrysler reliability, larger turbo and 3X the boost. I hear the neon has forged pistons, but seruiously....3X the boost? How reliable will this be in 30K miles? On a different note, has anyone heard about major engine problems with the RX-8? My father inlaw says he read somewhere that hundreds of owners were having major engine failure and had to have new engines??!!?? I'm not sure he knew 100% what he was talking about. Can anyone comment on this?
I'm very leary of the SRT simply for one reason. Chrysler reliability, larger turbo and 3X the boost. I hear the neon has forged pistons, but seruiously....3X the boost? How reliable will this be in 30K miles? On a different note, has anyone heard about major engine problems with the RX-8? My father inlaw says he read somewhere that hundreds of owners were having major engine failure and had to have new engines??!!?? I'm not sure he knew 100% what he was talking about. Can anyone comment on this?
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hahaha, no he mentioned some sort of major oil failure or something. I told him about the oil baffles that would trigger a light without injury but he wrote that off. I guess I should say that he's also a 350Z fan.....and I'm doinking his youngest daughter! He's bound to be stand-offish!!
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http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...hreadid=107408
12.9 with 1500 in performance mods but that doesn't include the DRs and wheels which are certainly helping quite a bit. The SRT-4 does have power windows, just not in the backseats. As for the SRT-4 vs. the MSP the performance is disgustingly in the SRT-4s favor. We're talking a 7 second difference in 0-100 times, so you had better hope if you think you're going to take out a SRT-4 on a track with an MSP that there are no straights at this track. The brakes are better on the SRT-4 as well. They are both great cars for the price, but performance wise the SRT-4 is in another league.
12.9 with 1500 in performance mods but that doesn't include the DRs and wheels which are certainly helping quite a bit. The SRT-4 does have power windows, just not in the backseats. As for the SRT-4 vs. the MSP the performance is disgustingly in the SRT-4s favor. We're talking a 7 second difference in 0-100 times, so you had better hope if you think you're going to take out a SRT-4 on a track with an MSP that there are no straights at this track. The brakes are better on the SRT-4 as well. They are both great cars for the price, but performance wise the SRT-4 is in another league.
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As for the SRT-4 vs. the MSP the performance is disgustingly in the SRT-4s favor.
As for the SRT-4 vs. the MSP the performance is disgustingly in the SRT-4s favor.
those times are quite impressive.
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Originally posted by elusiv
agreed about the MSP, the srt is much more appealing aside from the fact that its a neon.
those times are quite impressive.
agreed about the MSP, the srt is much more appealing aside from the fact that its a neon.
those times are quite impressive.
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Originally posted by vosko
the car ran 14.8 with a half way decent launch. just a heads up
the car ran 14.8 with a half way decent launch. just a heads up
Sorry for the further questioning, but the whole MSP vz Neon discussion lost me. The 8 got a 14.8 1/4th ??
When, where, and who?
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Can anyone please tell me what RPM is giving them the best launch? (Sorry if I scrolled over the answer). We finally got her out to the track last night. We have 19' rims, totally stock...and we got 15.8. I KNOW the 8 has sooo much more potential than what we ran . This is our first rotary, so there is much to be learned. I am used to our 3rd gen Eclipse which is launched best in the 2 grand. When we did that in the 8 she CRAWLED off the line, I could tell that she wants something else, but I don't know what. After our last launch someone said that he launches his 7 in the 5 grand. Too bad...they shut the track down before we got another run.
Help please!
Help please!
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Sorry for the further questioning, but the whole MSP vz Neon discussion lost me. The 8 got a 14.8 1/4th ??
When, where, and who?
Sorry for the further questioning, but the whole MSP vz Neon discussion lost me. The 8 got a 14.8 1/4th ??
When, where, and who?
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15.8???????? Ive never even been to the track and i just learned stick about a month ago and ill bet anything i could beat that in my 8. You gotta launch at leat 5k and if you want the absolute best results, launch at 8500 and youll get 14.5.
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Originally posted by RussellP
15.8???????? Ive never even been to the track and i just learned stick about a month ago and ill bet anything i could beat that in my 8. You gotta launch at leat 5k and if you want the absolute best results, launch at 8500 and youll get 14.5.
15.8???????? Ive never even been to the track and i just learned stick about a month ago and ill bet anything i could beat that in my 8. You gotta launch at leat 5k and if you want the absolute best results, launch at 8500 and youll get 14.5.
/sarcasm off
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Originally posted by vosko
same car, englishtown, DSC off fully. judge ito owner of the car driving. he fully believes as do i the car can do a 14.5 and high 13's with simply exhaust work , intake and drag tires
same car, englishtown, DSC off fully. judge ito owner of the car driving. he fully believes as do i the car can do a 14.5 and high 13's with simply exhaust work , intake and drag tires
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Can anyone please tell me what RPM is giving them the best launch? (Sorry if I scrolled over the answer). We finally got her out to the track last night. We have 19' rims, totally stock...and we got 15.8. I KNOW the 8 has sooo much more potential than what we ran . This is our first rotary, so there is much to be learned. I am used to our 3rd gen Eclipse which is launched best in the 2 grand. When we did that in the 8 she CRAWLED off the line, I could tell that she wants something else, but I don't know what. After our last launch someone said that he launches his 7 in the 5 grand. Too bad...they shut the track down before we got another run.
Help please!
Can anyone please tell me what RPM is giving them the best launch? (Sorry if I scrolled over the answer). We finally got her out to the track last night. We have 19' rims, totally stock...and we got 15.8. I KNOW the 8 has sooo much more potential than what we ran . This is our first rotary, so there is much to be learned. I am used to our 3rd gen Eclipse which is launched best in the 2 grand. When we did that in the 8 she CRAWLED off the line, I could tell that she wants something else, but I don't know what. After our last launch someone said that he launches his 7 in the 5 grand. Too bad...they shut the track down before we got another run.
Help please!
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I am dissappointed and in disbelief. I drive a 96 MX-6 M-edition with minor modifications (intake, exhaust, suspension, and 215/45/17 S-03's). I will get a timeslip as soon as it finally cools off a little in Phoenix (it's still hitting a 100!), but I am fairly certain a 15.2 is obtainable. There are hundreds of similar setup mx6's and probes with scanned timeslips to back that up at mx6.com and probetalk.
I guess it was over a month ago now, but I test drove the crap out of a demo RX-8 and then drove my car down the same roads within minutes of stepping out of the 8. The RX-8 felt much much faster. It wasn't even a comparison.
Granted I needed to drop the clutch at about 8000 with DSC off to not bog off the line, but it is hard to imagine the two cars posting similar ETs. The kicker is that when I returned to the dealership I realized I had left the A/C on the entire time.
I guess there are variations in the production line, but either this demo car was a fluke, or I have a 16 second MX-6. Neither seem that likely.
The main goal in buying the RX-8 was to have something that could beat those damn 350Z's and turbo 4's that are popping up everywhere without putting major bucks into my six. If these posted 1/4 times are an accurrate display of the car's capabilities, I am really glad I didn't bring the yellow one home that day.
I guess it was over a month ago now, but I test drove the crap out of a demo RX-8 and then drove my car down the same roads within minutes of stepping out of the 8. The RX-8 felt much much faster. It wasn't even a comparison.
Granted I needed to drop the clutch at about 8000 with DSC off to not bog off the line, but it is hard to imagine the two cars posting similar ETs. The kicker is that when I returned to the dealership I realized I had left the A/C on the entire time.
I guess there are variations in the production line, but either this demo car was a fluke, or I have a 16 second MX-6. Neither seem that likely.
The main goal in buying the RX-8 was to have something that could beat those damn 350Z's and turbo 4's that are popping up everywhere without putting major bucks into my six. If these posted 1/4 times are an accurrate display of the car's capabilities, I am really glad I didn't bring the yellow one home that day.
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Originally posted by jdwk
Granted I needed to drop the clutch at about 8000 with DSC off to not bog off the line, but it is hard to imagine the two cars posting similar ETs. The kicker is that when I returned to the dealership I realized I had left the A/C on the entire time.
*snip*
The main goal in buying the RX-8 was to have something that could beat those damn 350Z's and turbo 4's that are popping up everywhere without putting major bucks into my six. If these posted 1/4 times are an accurrate display of the car's capabilities, I am really glad I didn't bring the yellow one home that day.
Granted I needed to drop the clutch at about 8000 with DSC off to not bog off the line, but it is hard to imagine the two cars posting similar ETs. The kicker is that when I returned to the dealership I realized I had left the A/C on the entire time.
*snip*
The main goal in buying the RX-8 was to have something that could beat those damn 350Z's and turbo 4's that are popping up everywhere without putting major bucks into my six. If these posted 1/4 times are an accurrate display of the car's capabilities, I am really glad I didn't bring the yellow one home that day.
ive never had to drop it from 8k to not "bog" off the line let alone need to do it all of the time. the ac compressor kicks off at 65% wot, so most of the time it probably wasn't a problem during your test drive.
the reported production rx-8 times were never better than the z's so if that was what you wanted you should look to another car or save up for some mods.
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I realize that the numbers put the RX-8 behind the 350Z and even the SRT-4 (god help us) and far behind the STi and Evo. However, it's more fun if you aren't supposed to win, and I doubt I would be able leave the car stock for very long even if it put me in BSP.
However, 16 year old kids are breaking 14 with a stock neon while the RX-8 apparantly takes skill to break 15. I realize there are many aspects to a car besides 1/4 mile times, but it is disappointing nevertheless.
Hopefully, Mazda gets a turbocharged Renesis out soon.
However, 16 year old kids are breaking 14 with a stock neon while the RX-8 apparantly takes skill to break 15. I realize there are many aspects to a car besides 1/4 mile times, but it is disappointing nevertheless.
Hopefully, Mazda gets a turbocharged Renesis out soon.
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breaking into 14's with stock neon. Ok?
That was good for a smile. Funny how some members post mid 14's on here for 1/4 times for the 8, and people look for reasons to disbelieve, yet the negative things are always brought out to focus?? Some of the times we have seen are exactly what the R & T got, Car and Driver, Euro Mags etc, yet we still want to find fault??? Wow
A simple fuel controller on the 8 will get 25+hp. Add that to an already great car, and you can keep up, and possible beat alot of good cars. The 350 is no doubt a fast car, same with the EVO etc. but looks like some guys on here are creating so much noise, it is taking away from good chat about the car?
Sorry for the refute, but tired of all the BS on here, and reading it in almost every thread. There is so much evidence out there showing good 0-60 and quarter mile times, yet that is all dismissed ?
That was good for a smile. Funny how some members post mid 14's on here for 1/4 times for the 8, and people look for reasons to disbelieve, yet the negative things are always brought out to focus?? Some of the times we have seen are exactly what the R & T got, Car and Driver, Euro Mags etc, yet we still want to find fault??? Wow
A simple fuel controller on the 8 will get 25+hp. Add that to an already great car, and you can keep up, and possible beat alot of good cars. The 350 is no doubt a fast car, same with the EVO etc. but looks like some guys on here are creating so much noise, it is taking away from good chat about the car?
Sorry for the refute, but tired of all the BS on here, and reading it in almost every thread. There is so much evidence out there showing good 0-60 and quarter mile times, yet that is all dismissed ?
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Broker obviously knows nothing about cars. I have seed SRT4 neons getting as low as 13.7@103 stock. Not bad for a car thats under 20k. On average they are getting about 14.0-14.2
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but looks like some guys on here are creating so much noise, it is taking away from good chat about the car?
Sorry for the refute, but tired of all the BS on here, and reading it in almost every thread.
but looks like some guys on here are creating so much noise, it is taking away from good chat about the car?
Sorry for the refute, but tired of all the BS on here, and reading it in almost every thread.
I just don't get why these guys hang out on the RX-8 forum.
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I agree the new neon is fast in a straight line, but I would much rather pay the difference and get an RX8. there's no comparison. Mazdas (not just RX8's) are drivers cars. From the miata, to the 6, to the mazdaspeed protege, to the P5, and the RX8....mazda just makes some of the best, most complete cars on the market. How many commas did I use in that sentance? Was that een close to correct??