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Enchanting as that all looks/sounds... it also sure looks like a waste of a good chassis to do this to a car/engine. Hell any old Civic setup so wrong as this could do approximately the same inane things
From the car-side camera view it seems like a useless waste of tires and gas, but that's just me.
Take it to a real race track and let's see what +camber and no suspension travel will do for you....
From the car-side camera view it seems like a useless waste of tires and gas, but that's just me. Take it to a real race track and let's see what +camber and no suspension travel will do for you....

What I'm saying is that it's built in the same respect that Grand-Am GT Series cars are built. Stripped, painted, different Engine, different suspension, and reinforced chassis...only difference is that the suspension and tires are set up for drift.
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It is like the difference between Icedancing and speedskating. One is pretty, the other is fast. I suppose that they are each legitamate in their own way.
ETA: I have to say, that, while one can argue about how 'pretty' a thing is, speed is an objective measure. And I hate icedancing.
ETA: I have to say, that, while one can argue about how 'pretty' a thing is, speed is an objective measure. And I hate icedancing.
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I consider them different as one has a definitive winner. The other is a judged event where the outcome is decided by the opinion of a human.
i agree that drifting is in no way racing and mostly for entertainment, but who cares? track racing is definitely fun, but be honest w/ yourself for a sec. how much fun is drifting on someone else's dime? people started having fun sliding and someone found a way to make money off people good at sliding around. (same applies to racing in a different sense) both track racing and drifting are hobbies, the only difference is their objectives and the means they get there.
sorry nyc drift, you are right. drifting started from a driver in japan finding a faster way to exit corners.
if im still missing something let me know. although your criticism was not constructive (in the way constructive criticism is supposed to be) i learned something, so thank you
if im still missing something let me know. although your criticism was not constructive (in the way constructive criticism is supposed to be) i learned something, so thank you
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You, of course, base that statement on an elite-level comparison of the two disciplines, correct? Or is it that you have never actually gone fast on a track, but just thought that you were.
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One could argue it takes as much skill to control a slide as it does to control the car pushing it to the limits from sliding.
Drifting is considered for show since it's not a real race as it's a judge event, not a race format. Drifting isn't the fastest way around a track, but that doesn't mean it's not more fun.
If you want to go sideways and consider it a race, go to dirt tracks where it can actually be the fastest way around the track depending on surface conditions.
Drifting is considered for show since it's not a real race as it's a judge event, not a race format. Drifting isn't the fastest way around a track, but that doesn't mean it's not more fun.
If you want to go sideways and consider it a race, go to dirt tracks where it can actually be the fastest way around the track depending on surface conditions.
Have u tried drifting through a track? It takes skill to control the drift where as anyone can go to a track and just go fast with little to no skill as long as you know how to drive. Yes of course those with more skill will get better track times.
One could argue it takes as much skill to control a slide as it does to control the car pushing it to the limits from sliding.
Drifting is considered for show since it's not a real race as it's a judge event, not a race format. Drifting isn't the fastest way around a track, but that doesn't mean it's not more fun.
Drifting is considered for show since it's not a real race as it's a judge event, not a race format. Drifting isn't the fastest way around a track, but that doesn't mean it's not more fun.
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I'm not knocking Drifting, in fact I think it would be fun since I come from dirt racing background going sideways around 100mph in the corners 
However, you have to stand back and instead of being defensive realize, as long as it's a judged event it's not an actual race. To race means to compete in a timed fashioned to complete a circuit the fastest based on a set of laps. In drifting you're not doing this so per say definition aspect, it is not racing.
Secondly, while more fun, it's counteracting against the concept of racing, which is do complete a circuit within the fastest time possible provided for a class, by doing so through drifting resulting in slower times maybe, with the exception being if you were on an all tight corner track of the sort like in Tokyo Drift.
Lastly, who cares if it's not technically a real race? As long as you still have fun that's all should matter

However, you have to stand back and instead of being defensive realize, as long as it's a judged event it's not an actual race. To race means to compete in a timed fashioned to complete a circuit the fastest based on a set of laps. In drifting you're not doing this so per say definition aspect, it is not racing.
Secondly, while more fun, it's counteracting against the concept of racing, which is do complete a circuit within the fastest time possible provided for a class, by doing so through drifting resulting in slower times maybe, with the exception being if you were on an all tight corner track of the sort like in Tokyo Drift.
Lastly, who cares if it's not technically a real race? As long as you still have fun that's all should matter
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Coming from a background going sideways on a race track, I know it takes skill to go sideways and mark your line, pass a car doing so, etc.
^ I get your point. Sometimes I do come off as defensive since there's so much hate for drifting on here. Not trying to talk down on actual track racing either as I'm a fan of both.
One could argue it takes as much skill to control a slide as it does to control the car pushing it to the limits from sliding.
Drifting is considered for show since it's not a real race as it's a judge event, not a race format. Drifting isn't the fastest way around a track, but that doesn't mean it's not more fun.
If you want to go sideways and consider it a race, go to dirt tracks where it can actually be the fastest way around the track depending on surface conditions.
Drifting is considered for show since it's not a real race as it's a judge event, not a race format. Drifting isn't the fastest way around a track, but that doesn't mean it's not more fun.
If you want to go sideways and consider it a race, go to dirt tracks where it can actually be the fastest way around the track depending on surface conditions.
This is also why i love rally
sorry nyc drift, you are right. drifting started from a driver in japan finding a faster way to exit corners.
if im still missing something let me know. although your criticism was not constructive (in the way constructive criticism is supposed to be) i learned something, so thank you
if im still missing something let me know. although your criticism was not constructive (in the way constructive criticism is supposed to be) i learned something, so thank you
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