Do youn 'got lean'? *picture thread*
08-18-2011, 03:04 AM
#1
Do youn 'got lean'? *picture thread*
I guess I will start this thread off with a fitting picture.
Then a picture of my 8 with progress tech springs:
I guess Ill throw this in as well:
Happy postings, y'all.
Then a picture of my 8 with progress tech springs:
I guess Ill throw this in as well:
Happy postings, y'all.
Last edited by SayNoToPistons; 08-18-2011 at 03:08 AM.
08-18-2011, 03:46 AM
#4
Wont even entertain with writing a long post in reply to you so Ill just copy and paste from the 11 page thread at rx7club. Have fun reading.
Not all body roll is a bad thing. The change of camber is the part that is unwanted. So, body roll directly doesn't translate to bad weight transfer if you take CG and lateral acceleration into consideration.
Another thing to take into consideration is that a suspension set up that allows some body roll can take unwanted load off the tires. Tires are heated by friction with the ground and flexing of the tire carcass and tread. When you throw more load on them they will get hotter as they flex and scrub against the ground. This happens under braking, cornering, and acceleration. A stiffer suspension can make the tire itself do more of the work in absorbing roll forces (the only way your suspension can fight roll is by pushing down on the outside tires, if your suspension is stiff, the tires will do the flexing, like F1). The harder you corner (more g's you pull) the more weight will be transferred. The softer your tires, the more the sidewall and treadblocks flex, the more heat is generated. You can have a fairly flat car that loads the tires up more than a car that rolls over on the door handles, but it all gets complicated by alignment and suspension geometry, so the opposite can be true as well. It comes down to what setup generates more overall grip.
With that said (and a lot was said); we just like seeing our cars achieving high lateral acceleration with the suspension doing its job. Controlled body roll if you will.
Another thing to take into consideration is that a suspension set up that allows some body roll can take unwanted load off the tires. Tires are heated by friction with the ground and flexing of the tire carcass and tread. When you throw more load on them they will get hotter as they flex and scrub against the ground. This happens under braking, cornering, and acceleration. A stiffer suspension can make the tire itself do more of the work in absorbing roll forces (the only way your suspension can fight roll is by pushing down on the outside tires, if your suspension is stiff, the tires will do the flexing, like F1). The harder you corner (more g's you pull) the more weight will be transferred. The softer your tires, the more the sidewall and treadblocks flex, the more heat is generated. You can have a fairly flat car that loads the tires up more than a car that rolls over on the door handles, but it all gets complicated by alignment and suspension geometry, so the opposite can be true as well. It comes down to what setup generates more overall grip.
With that said (and a lot was said); we just like seeing our cars achieving high lateral acceleration with the suspension doing its job. Controlled body roll if you will.
08-18-2011, 06:04 PM
#24
Saying it has nothing to do with it is quite absurd
While it's on a flat surface to achieve the roll, I am pleasantly surprised
Well done
08-18-2011, 06:21 PM
#25
Not going to argue with you, but you're wrong. While it's not all about just torque, it has a major effect considering that the transfer of weight from the front to the rear when going through the corner has to do with torque from powering on the throttle as well as your suspension setup and tire grip to pull it off.
Saying it has nothing to do with it is quite absurd
Saying it has nothing to do with it is quite absurd
Whether the car can generate 15 torques at it's peak, or 500, if it can reach a sufficient speed coming into a turn in conjunction with any of the above you will be 2 or 3 wheeling.