Originally Posted by Tentacle Party (Post 4057407)

I don't get this thread... are you after examples of super stiff suspension or body roll? Cars shouldn't lean.

What's next, threads for people to post pictures of cup holders?

Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 10745529)

Not all body roll is a bad thing. The change of camber is the part that is unwanted. So, body roll directly doesn't translate to bad weight transfer if you take CG and lateral acceleration into consideration.

Another thing to take into consideration is that a suspension set up that allows some body roll can take unwanted load off the tires. Tires are heated by friction with the ground and flexing of the tire carcass and tread. When you throw more load on them they will get hotter as they flex and scrub against the ground. This happens under braking, cornering, and acceleration. A stiffer suspension can make the tire itself do more of the work in absorbing roll forces (the only way your suspension can fight roll is by pushing down on the outside tires, if your suspension is stiff, the tires will do the flexing, like F1). The harder you corner (more g's you pull) the more weight will be transferred. The softer your tires, the more the sidewall and treadblocks flex, the more heat is generated. You can have a fairly flat car that loads the tires up more than a car that rolls over on the door handles, but it all gets complicated by alignment and suspension geometry, so the opposite can be true as well. It comes down to what setup generates more overall grip.


With that said (and a lot was said); we just like seeing our cars achieving high lateral acceleration with the suspension doing its job. Controlled body roll if you will.

Originally Posted by dgeesaman (Post 10748560)

Body roll is only ugly because we've been conditioned to think that by cars with vastly inferior suspension design.

The point of this thread is pictures that show the car cornering at maximum g's. But Damian's thread title just works better.

Originally Posted by paimon.soror (Post 4057447)

^^ LOL thats awesome

Originally Posted by alz0rz (Post 4057804)

i've definitely seen an rx8 on 3 wheels a few times locally... torque has nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by HockeyRX-8 (Post 4057836)

Here you go Al...Chris's 8 on 3 wheels:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/...379eabb9_b.jpg

Originally Posted by Vlaze (Post 4057952)

Not going to argue with you, but you're wrong. While it's not all about just torque, it has a major effect considering that the transfer of weight from the front to the rear when going through the corner has to do with torque from powering on the throttle as well as your suspension setup and tire grip to pull it off.

Saying it has nothing to do with it is quite absurd