Well, in my now-deleted posts in their now-deleted public thread, I had links to E-Bay auctions for all the primary bits.
I think it took about 5 or 6 minutes.

 

My reply was not directed at you. It was directed at people that are not involved and are just here to troll. I understand your situation, you had something that didn't work, hence why I hadn't tried to go against you or your tread. If you changed the turbo and it went away then it was definitely the turbo, I have no doubt, and I never said it wasn't. I just said that it hadn't been proven(which you just did) and that it could be a number of other things which it totally could. At no point was I claiming that you were making it up. I've had turbos leak from turbonetics right out of the box too, its no big deal and they replace them for new units because it simply was one that leaked through quality control.

Unfortunately I did not sell you a turbo kit, I sold it to someone else almost a year before you had it, if they were not clear on how long they had the kit laying around its not our problem. If you would've bought the kit from us, we would've gladly replaced the turbo...which is the first time we would've had to. Even still Jason told me he offered you a discounted price for it which we didn't have to do since warranty had been over for over half a year and you got the kit second hand.

I understand the fact that you are upset, I would be too, but your anger is pointed in the wrong direction. If I buy an intercooler from a guy on the forum and it leaks boost I don't get mad at spearco and if I did they would just laugh at me. Instead I try to figure it out with the person I bought the kit from because it was a risk I took in buying it from them instead of the manufacturer.

I will refrain from further comments here.

Thanks,

Chris

 

I may blog later actually haha - just no time now...



Oh great leader, I had a vision after my prayer session... You said something profound earlier...


I have only one question quasi-rotary-engine Jesus, what's the flashpoint of engine oil? I will follow this question with another : what is the temperature inside of the combustion chamber? If I'm not mistaken, you're trying to tell me that there was a steady flow of oil (thick stuff) that travelled up an exhaust manifold (hot hot stuff) and made its way through the turbo, not out the turbine outlet, but rather the compressor outlet....

....

Let's think about this a bit. You're trying to convince me that the oil teleported from the turbine housing to the compressor housing. Magically? Even more pixie-dust-inspired thinking tells us that the oil escaped the heat of the engine and turbine housing and remained in its liquid state, then sought refuge in the comfortable embrace of the intercooler...

I DARE YOU TO MAKE LESS SENSE.

The problem is and always will be that gem of a turbocharger you opted to use.

On the subject of turbochargers, you mentioned that I could send in my XS Pow...SS Auto... TURBOCHARGER BRAND Turbocharger and have it inspected. Thankfully Jason informed me that I would have the pleasure of paying you ONLY $550 for another fantastic turbocharger. Thanks for the deterrent gents!

Since it's only fair since I've got two people coming after me now, I'm going to tag in my friend who shares the same disgust for this caliber of service. Everyone, meet Mike , a friend of mine who also sought answers from the Mohammed-of-Renesis.


TAG, YOU'RE IN!

 

This thread delivers!

 

Hey guys,

I'm am the Mike character that Alec speaks of. We thought that because there are two of them that we need to have a tag team battle. I helped Alec put the kit on the first time, the second time, and anytime after that when it didn't work. I wanted to address a couple of problems.

Leader in RX-8 development? Now I'm glad that you guys can give YOURSELVES that title. Just like I am the leader in giving girls oral pleasure. I'm sure there a couple of people will contest my title as well as yours.

We are not telling anyone anything that you have not done. Deformation is when you say someone did something that they have not done. Now explain the deformation, please. Also if your opinions are anything like your customer service then I don't think that anyone wants to hear what you have to say.

See I think this is where one of your problems come from. You never responded before this. Its not like he didn't call. But now here is the kicker, I called and asked about a turbo kit, and I never got a call back. I could have been another customer looking for help, but no one was there to help. That should be a lesson to all others thinking about buying the kit. I hope to GOD that your kit is perfect because you will not be getting any help if something is wrong.

Love,

Mike

 

My turn again!

Here's a fun bit I found from this thread, the one where I bought the kit from Snidely Whiplash. (https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-parts-sale-wanted-44/fs-esmeril-racing-turbo-kit-134830/page2/)





So what you'll see here is Truemagellen vouching for Mike (the seller). This is all well and good, but he then later refutes this stance, claiming that Mike had, in some way, shape, or form, damaged the kit... Interesting stance, this one...

 

Lol.
Deformation is what happened to the oil seals on that turbo when the 11-year-old Chinese slave worker assembled it.
Defamation is something else entirely!

But I'm a grammar ****, so what do I know.


Oops.

 

MazdaManiac, you're my bestest interweb friend. Seriously though, thanks for the support!

 

HAHA, I suck at life, but you get the point.

Thanks

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlTitaniumCar

My turn again!

Here's a fun bit I found from this thread, the one where I bought the kit from Snidely Whiplash. (https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=134830&page=2)





So what you'll see here is Truemagellen vouching for Mike (the seller). This is all well and good, but he then later refutes this stance, claiming that Mike had, in some way, shape, or form, damaged the kit... Interesting stance, this one...

Please notice the date, March 2007. We shipped the kit to Mike1234a AND NOT YOU after that post was made.

It was our understanding Mike1234a had changed his mind and wanted to install the kit. I still have the tracking information of sending the kit to Mike and not AIredcar.

So a new kit was not shipped to you AIRedcar from our facilities, in fact we have never had a transaction from you regarding Esmeril parts. So when mike1234a received his kit he should have started a new sale thread stating it is in his possession as we no longer could vouch for it. You bought the kit with false information. Just like MM is posting false information, it is as simple as that.

AIredcar, so if you were not told by mike1234a that he had the kit himself before purchasing then that is unfortunate and you should take it up with him.

but if you would have looked at the shipping information you would have seen it came from mik1234a and not us so bashing us is not the solution. So as I said to you on the phone...you need to look where you purchased the kit from. We are happy to answer questions but we can't solve every problem by giving away free components for used turbo kits.




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OK. I'll bite. What am I posting that is false this time?

You deleted the thread that contained all of your other lies, so now we don't have a good reference. Care to start over here?

 

am i the only person on here that thinks buying a turbo 2nd hand and then trying to get the retailer to warranty a problem with it is asking too much?

 

My hats off to you Alec and MM. I love your eloquently phrasing of words. I chuckled after each paragraph. Cheers to you both.

 

Only if the kit was used my friend.

 

No. You are exactly right.
However, there seems to be some discrepancy about what actually constitutes "second-hand" in this instance.

 

It appears that there is a little more happening here than just a 2nd hand sale.

 

it doesnt matter- if i buy something and it has a 90 warranty from the time i buy it and then i resell it to someone else and they have a problem with it they cant take it back to the store and say "here fix this" the warranty was to the original purchaser. it doesnt matter if its still in the original box and shrink wrapped with seal on it.

least of all a turbo kit. id like someone to find me one other time on any rotor forum a 2nd hand turbo kit was warrantied by the manufacturer

 

Al titanium didnt buy the kit from Esmeril or Mazdaparts the retailer - he bought from an individual. and if i read that screen cap right the kit was originally put up for resale back in march- clearly we are well past the 90 days.

 

I'm really sure that the OP is all that concerned with a "warranty" issue.
Its more a matter of being sold a "bill of goods", so to speak, about the merchantability of the kit as it stood.

Certainly a post like this implies fitness of merchantability:

Even if there is no claim to warranty, there is a definite implication that the goods are in "new" condition. This would make the failure of any part primary claim, even if an adjustment wouldn't be forthcoming.

 

Well it matters to me. If I were in the market for a turbo I would have a very hard time seriously considering the Esmeril on account of issues like this.

It's also concerning that the vendor and manufacturer have not been as accessible as one would hope. The bitmap of their endorsement of the "second hand" seller isn't helping matters either.

 

but as i read the post above the kit was then actually shipped to the original purchaser who had it for some amount of time before it was then shipped to Al- or am i wrong about that?

 

Well, this doesn't really matter considering the limited 90 day warranty they offer so zoom44 is right at one point.
What surprises me instead is that following a path when it's opposit is well discussed by just using a kind of "violence" in your regards will just make other customers run.
Plus, being modest is big plus to success.
You can define yourself as God, but when you place a wastegate so low, as i already told you somewhere or build ignition harnesses that need splicing you should just credit yourself as God's weird assistant.
There's no logical point in having a 700hp 13msp engine that can't be driven because every track side marker will tear it apart. Another point is if you build a showcar, but then you don't market your products as pure "performance" ones.
Maybe i'm going nowhere, maybe i'm not somebody who can vouch in and speak but guys, let's be serious...
Before any technical aspect of this problem we should all remember that we are humans, that we make mistakes and that starting to try and **** the other "contender" off will just create a mess. Admitting a single mistake and trying to give a reasonable explanation is what we, the customers, need.
We all know that MM at times act as an overstressed man but did he ever refused to explain something technical? same for other tons of posters here such as Hymee, Charles R. Hill, rotarygod and others i'm not remembering at the moment. They help when there's a problem or at least try to.
So, instead of telling us how you guys at esmeril are far superior than the rest couldn't you just tell us what went wrong according to your experience and give us a possible solution to the problem?

That's just my point of view, a rotary enthusiast and a customer that is a bit upset by some behaviors at times.

 

if you purchased a 2nd hand kit from another manufacturer you would expect them to honor a warranty that is no longer valid?

 

and an excellent point it is bse

 

Thank you, but i would like to add that a vendor will be able to sell **** as well if smiling. That's exactly what happened with other shops. They stopped smiling, they went away with a crowd chasing them for their heads.
The other shop also had a bit longer "history" so it took more time for this to happen. When you have just a couple of products and few customers it happens in a heartbeat.