AlRedCar's Project Build Thread
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Absolutely true.
If my primary response to criticism EVER becomes a need to question someone's character, you need to check me.
I will certainly go there after the other party has - but that is because any gratuitous assertion can be equally, gratuitously denied.
You will NEVER find my first line of reasoning against bad data/science/practice/reasoning to be an ad hominem attack.
The fact is - the first one in an argument to call the other sick/a dick/lame/stupid is the loser in that round.
Now, it is often my goal to take advantage of that little tick in human nature so that I don't have to defend my point of view too vigorously, but that is just for pure entertainment on my part.
If my primary response to criticism EVER becomes a need to question someone's character, you need to check me.
I will certainly go there after the other party has - but that is because any gratuitous assertion can be equally, gratuitously denied.
You will NEVER find my first line of reasoning against bad data/science/practice/reasoning to be an ad hominem attack.
The fact is - the first one in an argument to call the other sick/a dick/lame/stupid is the loser in that round.
Now, it is often my goal to take advantage of that little tick in human nature so that I don't have to defend my point of view too vigorously, but that is just for pure entertainment on my part.
Last edited by MazdaManiac; Dec 20, 2008 at 08:15 PM.
or how about that Truemagellan has been on here as a member for years and well before he became a vendor and has dealt honestly and fair with everyone for years so that his track record is very open and clear- maybe that is his true colors.
Not maybe actually thats definitely his true colors he's a good guy that runs a good business.
He is just like some of our other best vendors who came into the community as owners of the car and then found it was hard to get various parts for the car and started a business over it.
And i for one wont stand by and let his reputation be trashed over a turbokit that wasnt even purchased from him. After he made A VERY FAIR OFFER of a discount on a replacement part WHEN HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE TO DO THAT.
as i said above there will be some people who will never listen to reason and AL and his friends will probably be them. I would hope the rest of the forum- especially the guys that have been around as long as truemagellan and know him- will see the sour grapes for what they are.
Not maybe actually thats definitely his true colors he's a good guy that runs a good business.
He is just like some of our other best vendors who came into the community as owners of the car and then found it was hard to get various parts for the car and started a business over it.
And i for one wont stand by and let his reputation be trashed over a turbokit that wasnt even purchased from him. After he made A VERY FAIR OFFER of a discount on a replacement part WHEN HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE TO DO THAT.
as i said above there will be some people who will never listen to reason and AL and his friends will probably be them. I would hope the rest of the forum- especially the guys that have been around as long as truemagellan and know him- will see the sour grapes for what they are.
yeah childish i know, but what else am i gonna do? PM him with questions and a discussion then turn around and post any insight i recieved here? thats just as childish.
he is an ***, i find him quite humorous though. i imagine he's quite a character in person. I relate the way he approaches this stuff to the way i approach that myspace mobsters game. People get SOOO butthurt about a stupid game, so i randomly will find someone to call out in the game, simply for the amusement of seeing how they react...
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You guys kinda get off topic real easy. The whole point of the problem is the fact that even though he got it second hand, he couldnt get the support for it. I helped him put the kit on and have watched him struggle with problem after problem. And I think i remember hearing him leaving lots of messages but never actually talking to someone. I dont remember ever hearing an offer to have him send it in to get inspected. It was buy a new one or forget it.
And the turbo is absolute junk. For 550 he could pretty much have himself a new Garrett equivalent. XS power is known for they're turbo failures. IE:
As you can see the compressor housing split IN HALF. Not the same issue, but goes to show the quality.
And the turbo is absolute junk. For 550 he could pretty much have himself a new Garrett equivalent. XS power is known for they're turbo failures. IE:
As you can see the compressor housing split IN HALF. Not the same issue, but goes to show the quality.
Now with 25% more fluff..
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Welcome, 1st time poster.
Interesting how post-install it is described as junk, but pre-install it was admired:
I can understand a little premature exhuberation, sure.......but to go from one extreme to another?
but....but....but......it is of the highest quality, the quality is definitely there!
Interesting how post-install it is described as junk, but pre-install it was admired:
First impression is wow. I've never seen such a complete turbo kit in my experience of working on cars, they truly have every aspect covered. .......the exhaust components are incredibly stout ......... of the highest quality, the list goes on! ....... I checked the turbocharger thoroughly and I must say that the quality is definitely there! ...... Esmeril did their homework and it shows!! .....
but....but....but......it is of the highest quality, the quality is definitely there!
Its a feature.
hey, i couldve said "he's a dick but" then i wouldnt be ghey for saying dickbutt in the same sentenceooh me likey features, is that what all the honduh's are using to beat me in drag races in my neighborood?
Last edited by paulmasoner; Dec 21, 2008 at 01:13 PM.
sorry to hear it didnt work out.. i remember you said on post 39 it was a good kit that all the parts look as great quality but know they are chinesse knock off sorry to tell you that next time buy from the dealer and you wouldnt loose your money. costumer service should have been better in responding to questions but MM never answers to alot of accesport buyers asking for their calibrations, so this is a common issue in some vendors.hopefully you buy a evox and save this mess from happening again........
Last edited by rx 8speciale; Dec 27, 2008 at 06:29 AM.
next time buy from the manuf. and you wouldnt loose your money. costumer service should have been better
You mean buy straight from Garrett? Wtf you talking about? Buyers have to go thru dealers.
hopefully you buy a evox and save this mess from happening again
So there are no knock-offs made for Evos? Where do you come up with this stuff?
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You mean buy straight from Garrett? Wtf you talking about? Buyers have to go thru dealers.
hopefully you buy a evox and save this mess from happening again
So there are no knock-offs made for Evos? Where do you come up with this stuff?
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