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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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These threads are all the same. Someone posts an article, which is just a rehash of the same total speculation and lack of facts as always, then everyone says why it's not going to happen, then people start in with their wish lists which are pretty much variations of figures for horsepower, gas mileage, weight, and doors. Pass.
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberPitz
That would be a great idea for us Rotor heads, but would seem like a huge step in 'Riskville" for Mazda to have 3 Rotary cars in the line-up. I just can't wait for some official news from Mazda!
It all depends on how the economy swings, and how sales and reputation grow.
If they produced them in the order I posted, as sales grow from one to the next I see a better chance of it working rather than all 3 at once. The only reason i mentioned the 8 is because the Chassis is already here.
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Any idea on cost???
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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It has always been this way, Mazda is very secretive after all it is an exotic Rotary engine no one else has anything like it. We are the select few that took the chance on this oddity and understood that this was a "RX" because it's experimental. We have decided to support this experiment and see where it goes. They do read these by the way, because they want to know where we want to go.
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Rotor
It has always been this way, Mazda is very secretive after all it is an exotic Rotary engine no one else has anything like it. We are the select few that took the chance on this oddity and understood that this was a "RX" because it's experimental. We have decided to support this experiment and see where it goes. They do read these by the way, because they want to know where we want to go.
We should actually post where we want to go, should we do this here? Should we make a new thread. I actually think its a wonderful idea.

My post 2 posts ago tells where I want Mazda to go.
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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I have yet to see as big of articles as these in well respects online sites for a few years now.

My wish list includes about 270hp with over 220 ft#s torque in a coupe Miata with updated styling.

Anyone ever see the NB coupe Miata?
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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I LOLed at this pretty hard for some reason ... nice

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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What if Mazda put the Series II Reni or a 16X in a car like the Mazda Superlight!!

Conceived and created as a way to celebrate the MX-5 Miata's 20th anniversary – along with showcasing Mazda's focus on lightweight performance – the Superlight's new profile and 2,194-pound curb weight is the brainchild of the automaker's European R&D center in Oberursel, Germany.

Based off the recently facelifted roadster, the most obvious change to the Superlight is its speedster profile, which involved removing the windshield, retractable roof and frame. From there, Mazda's European team extended the aluminum hood towards the cabin and mounted an aluminum, wide-angle rear-view mirror, along with a set of roll-over hoops fitted with LED brake lights.

The passenger compartment benefits from a thorough stripping, with the removal of the sound insulation, carpeting and air conditioning unit. In their place goes a set of carbon fiber racing buckets coated in the same brown leather as the steering wheel, armrests and aluminum shifter and hand brake. The dash is a custom fiberglass and plastic unit, with the stock MX-5's gauges joining an engine-start button bringing to life the standard 1.8-liter four-cylinder (putting out 126 hp and 123 lb-ft of torque) and equipped with a Mazdaspeed cold-air intake and exhaust. But with the diet and minimal engine mods, the run from 0-to-60 MPH comes in at 8.9 seconds.

Here is a link for more info..

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/11/m...-of-frankfurt/

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 02:43 AM
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Make a new thread symbioticgenius! I wanna see people's ideas for mazda's rotary.
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Symbioticgenius
It all depends on how the economy swings, and how sales and reputation grow.
If they produced them in the order I posted, as sales grow from one to the next I see a better chance of it working rather than all 3 at once. The only reason i mentioned the 8 is because the Chassis is already here.
Yeah, doing that in an order would be pretty good. Release the first, if sales are good, push for the second one and continue. I don't use the rear seats enough to justify buying the RX-8 version of the next rotary, in that case.

These threads always make me want to jump to the future and see what happens
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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Wait, if they put series II renesis into a lighter car people would still say it was torqueless and needed a different engine.

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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I don't think a series II renny is an option for a new model of any kind, regardless of weight. There would have to be an upgrade in mileage to warrant such a move.
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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I don't think a series II renny is an option for a new model of any kind, regardless of weight. There would have to be an upgrade in mileage to warrant such a move.
I wonder how better the mileage would be if they just lowered the weight to Miata standards...

Also, they could easily change the gearing/detune the car a bit to get better gas mileage. Sure, it would be a bit slower, but in that light of a car, I'd imagine it would balance out a bit.

In the end, the more I'm thinking about it....I'm not keen on that idea. Too much of an overlap with what the Miata is.
Old Dec 31, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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Also, they could easily change the gearing/detune the car a bit to get better gas mileage.
They could do the same thing with the 16X and get some field research done on the basic long term wide scale performance of the motor while they finished their R&D with the DI and injector placement to get the most tuned performance out of it.

We would get the new geometry motor to play with in the after market and Mazda would get their next gen rotary motor out on the streets. Win Win
Old Jan 1, 2010 | 05:20 AM
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to be honest, according to recent articles. things do not really add up. Right after the Tokyo Auto show, 2 articles stated the 16x is not ready (personally, i doubt the 16x is not ready.- it is the details that they needed to improve) and the next rx-8 will be a evolution, not a revolution. ( coming from the R&D deparment and rx-8 designer- i can be wrong) Then, the chief designer is pushing for a new rx-7. All these news are within 2 months and winthin 2 months, they can scrape the rx-8 plan and push forth the rx-7 plan? doesnt really sound too realistic. Also, the new rx-7 news only circulated after insideline posted and it seems the other websites so feed off it. Correct me with i am wrong. =D however..... showing a 2 year old concept at Taipei auto show might means something.... especially, the taiki concept. =O

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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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Really, nothing truly does add up, just because of the fact that we can't get a straight answer! Until Mazda pipes up and tells us exactly what's up, we will not be sure.

Until then, speculating is hella fun!
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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All we know is, rx9 is the replacement for rx8. We don't know when though.

Whether or not they resurrect rx7 in between is just a side story, and unrelated to the eventual rx8 replacement, called rx9.

rx9. Sounds so much better than saying rx7/8.
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 03:43 AM
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Not that this matters, but I disagree. Rx9 just doesn't roll off the tongue as Rx7 and Rx8 do.
Hell even Next RX sound better than Rx9. There's no Nagare to that name.
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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hearing RX9, I think of the CX9 SUV.
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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Hi. My model number is rx7. I'm outdated model. Success is unlikely against the future.

Advanced Multi Side Port technology and weapons systems: Probability 95% will crush.

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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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RX-9 was already used by Mazda.

Rotary version of their Luce sedan.
Old Jan 5, 2010 | 02:29 AM
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how about a 16x direct injection, with variable vane turbo? I understand why mazda went away from turbos on the rx8, however they still have had engine issues....do it right this time...use the wasted exhaust gases that only a rotary can create to spin up a variable vane turbo in a light weight chasis....direct injection should seriously help with emissions/gas mileage/detonation. Add to that a lighter chasis for even better fuel economy, and put some seriously engineered apex seals in it that can take a beating as well as slightly lowering the compression ratio....if they can get 350 hp out of the 16x which i doubt, they could easilly get 400 hp out of 16x with a variable vane turbo and direct injection....and better fuel economy than the current rx8......and if its sold as a sportscar/2 seater, there wont be much that can compete with it

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