RX-8 dead last...what a surprise.
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what shimz thinks
stock for stock
speed & overall performance=z (how it feels is irrelevant in this category...it's the numbers.)
styling and looks=tie (I love the way rx8's look-and i love the secret four door thingamajic-if i had the $ my next car would be the 8...even though the rotary seems to be high maintenence i'd still be loyal)
interior/quality=hands down rx8 HANDS DOWN!~ (z's interior design isn't so bad it's the quality that SUCKS! you can tell they did everything to cut costs...etc)
ride & feel=probabaly the rx8 because it's lighter like tossing a s2k around the corner.
i love boths cars!~..i don't know why we have so many ignorant 350z owners and rx8 owners....oh, keep forgetting that there are a lot of kids who own these types of cars.
imagine a z and rx8 merged as one....craaaaaaaaaaaazy...
stock for stock
speed & overall performance=z (how it feels is irrelevant in this category...it's the numbers.)
styling and looks=tie (I love the way rx8's look-and i love the secret four door thingamajic-if i had the $ my next car would be the 8...even though the rotary seems to be high maintenence i'd still be loyal)
interior/quality=hands down rx8 HANDS DOWN!~ (z's interior design isn't so bad it's the quality that SUCKS! you can tell they did everything to cut costs...etc)
ride & feel=probabaly the rx8 because it's lighter like tossing a s2k around the corner.
i love boths cars!~..i don't know why we have so many ignorant 350z owners and rx8 owners....oh, keep forgetting that there are a lot of kids who own these types of cars.
imagine a z and rx8 merged as one....craaaaaaaaaaaazy...
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Yes, they are both great cars. However, the 8 is so new and handles so differently due to its high rpm torque so the numbers may improve as it is tested more by professionals...
The clutch is so sensitive even a bit of hesitation during engage translate to a little jolt and loss of speed/acceleration. The NSX we have doesn't seem to be that sensitive. Well I was told the transsmition alone in the NSX is already as exepsive as the engines in other cars maybe that's why.
I think Mazda can easily develope a car (be that a 7 or 8) with a 1.6 litre so those who crave power shouldn't have to wait too long. For now 1.3 is enough for a Family sport car like the 8, although it'll be sweet to see a 1.6 litre 8 in the future. Don't know how it'll affect handling and emission though. It'll also be nice if they'll ship the Mazdaspeed 8 A-spec to the US...not likely since there are only 300 even in Japan.
The clutch is so sensitive even a bit of hesitation during engage translate to a little jolt and loss of speed/acceleration. The NSX we have doesn't seem to be that sensitive. Well I was told the transsmition alone in the NSX is already as exepsive as the engines in other cars maybe that's why.
I think Mazda can easily develope a car (be that a 7 or 8) with a 1.6 litre so those who crave power shouldn't have to wait too long. For now 1.3 is enough for a Family sport car like the 8, although it'll be sweet to see a 1.6 litre 8 in the future. Don't know how it'll affect handling and emission though. It'll also be nice if they'll ship the Mazdaspeed 8 A-spec to the US...not likely since there are only 300 even in Japan.
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Funny. Is it a compliment to the RX-8 or an insult to the 350Z that a broadly focused 4 seat sports sedan can even come close to keeping up with a hard edged 2 seat sports car? Either way, WGAF...
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You know, I always have wondered about the motivations behind trolls like this...why attack people who have never done anything to you?
Is it envy? Is it a twisted need to inflict pain on people who have something the troll lacks?
Really, is this not an indication of a deeper problem? Something that needs professional help?
It is a sickness, soul deep I think, and a symptom of a sad and pathetic little life.
Is it envy? Is it a twisted need to inflict pain on people who have something the troll lacks?
Really, is this not an indication of a deeper problem? Something that needs professional help?
It is a sickness, soul deep I think, and a symptom of a sad and pathetic little life.
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I think I missed the whole point of the original post except perhaps to **** off some people...oh yeah, I guess that was the point. Whatever. If I wanted someone's thoughts on the 350Z compared to XYZ I'd go to that message board. Instead, I come to this board to read biased opinions on the RX8 vs. XYZ.
Move on...nothing to see here, folks.
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Move on...nothing to see here, folks.
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Re: RX-8 dead last...what a surprise.
Originally posted by --Z--
I posted a couple times on this forum awhile back for the heck of it, and found everyone here to be, well...pretty lame.
Non-objective and lame, and hell-bent on comparing the RX-8(performance-wise) to the likes of the 350Z and G35Coupe.
Well, here's a video you all might enjoy...(and you may want to keep a few Kleenex's handy to cry into).:p
http://www.utdallas.edu/~masanori/Videos/16BM_Video.wmv
I posted a couple times on this forum awhile back for the heck of it, and found everyone here to be, well...pretty lame.
Non-objective and lame, and hell-bent on comparing the RX-8(performance-wise) to the likes of the 350Z and G35Coupe.
Well, here's a video you all might enjoy...(and you may want to keep a few Kleenex's handy to cry into).:p
http://www.utdallas.edu/~masanori/Videos/16BM_Video.wmv
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Originally posted by Atreyu
[B]RX-8 won Grand AM
http://www.speedarena.com/news/publi...cle_4272.shtml
RX-8 won S2K and others BY FAR...its a video shown on various websites and on the Best Motoring DVD..looks like the Z is hopeless against the Mazdaspeed (unfortunately only sold in Japan at this moment)...only if being the fastest or faster in a video is THAT important.
http://www.step-hen.com/rx8/files/revenge%20battle.wmv
[B]RX-8 won Grand AM
http://www.speedarena.com/news/publi...cle_4272.shtml
RX-8 won S2K and others BY FAR...its a video shown on various websites and on the Best Motoring DVD..looks like the Z is hopeless against the Mazdaspeed (unfortunately only sold in Japan at this moment)...only if being the fastest or faster in a video is THAT important.
http://www.step-hen.com/rx8/files/revenge%20battle.wmv
Revenge race: great, an RX8 with lots of $$$$ in mods hangs with a STOCK S2000. And the S2K got a handicapped start behind the 8.
The best part is that the RX8's best lap time is still 3-4 seconds behind what the Evo's and STi's were getting in Best Motoring Int'l #7. I don't have the DVD's in front of me but I wonder what the S2K was getting in BMI 8 when it beat the 8...
john
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Originally posted by Butt Dyno
Revenge race: great, an RX8 with lots of $$$$ in mods hangs with a STOCK S2000. And the S2K got a handicapped start behind the 8.
Revenge race: great, an RX8 with lots of $$$$ in mods hangs with a STOCK S2000. And the S2K got a handicapped start behind the 8.
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....or it illustrates that you have to be driving the RX-8 properly to get good returns.
If you sit around shifting at 5000 rpms and waving the other drivers to pass you, getting 1st place is not an option.
If you sit around shifting at 5000 rpms and waving the other drivers to pass you, getting 1st place is not an option.
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Yes sometimes I am not sure why magazines would compare track models of one car with a stock of another like Motortrend's latest comparison between the 8, S2K and Z: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ee/index.html. Although it's somewhat unscientific and biased, I suppose they can only test whatever the manufacturers handed to them.
Again, racing is much more of a test of skills than cars and the 8 is fast enough as a family sport, all-rounded, practical, comfortable, magical and sexy being.
Again, racing is much more of a test of skills than cars and the 8 is fast enough as a family sport, all-rounded, practical, comfortable, magical and sexy being.
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http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/...c;f=3;t=001514
This is scary
This guy has about 7 times the amount of bearing wear (copper) than the universal average.
And it only has 1300 miles.
This is scary
This guy has about 7 times the amount of bearing wear (copper) than the universal average.
And it only has 1300 miles.
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Originally posted by snap-on
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/...c;f=3;t=001514
This is scary
This guy has about 7 times the amount of bearing wear (copper) than the universal average.
And it only has 1300 miles.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/...c;f=3;t=001514
This is scary
This guy has about 7 times the amount of bearing wear (copper) than the universal average.
And it only has 1300 miles.
"that's not unusual in new engines such as yours"
"the wear is high due to break-in"
"we think this is going to be a nice engine ffor you"
john
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Originally posted by RX-Hachi
The RX-8 in the revenge race is still a factory stock car. But it is the Mazdaspeed A-spec factory stock car of which 300 were built in Japan. The main difference, aside from the body kit, is the suspension setup. Road&Track's Speed magazine which tested the Mazdaspeed RX-8 and Nismo Z claimed the that the Mazdaspeed 0-60 times were basically the same as the normal model. Although slight changes were made to the ECU and exhaust, the slight bump in HP was negated by the extra weight of the body kit. So the RX-8's improved performance in the revenge battle was either because of the A-spec suspension or the driver. The S2K already has what's considered a track setup while the RX-8 is tuned for the street. Goes to show how simple changes to the suspension will dramatically change the car's character on the track.
The RX-8 in the revenge race is still a factory stock car. But it is the Mazdaspeed A-spec factory stock car of which 300 were built in Japan. The main difference, aside from the body kit, is the suspension setup. Road&Track's Speed magazine which tested the Mazdaspeed RX-8 and Nismo Z claimed the that the Mazdaspeed 0-60 times were basically the same as the normal model. Although slight changes were made to the ECU and exhaust, the slight bump in HP was negated by the extra weight of the body kit. So the RX-8's improved performance in the revenge battle was either because of the A-spec suspension or the driver. The S2K already has what's considered a track setup while the RX-8 is tuned for the street. Goes to show how simple changes to the suspension will dramatically change the car's character on the track.
And it will still be 3-4 seconds a lap behind an Evo/STi.
WOW!! What a deal!
I don't buy your "body kits = weight" argument at all. If it's a completely new bumper it's not necessarily heavier, and if it's just a set of lip spoilers, it's not going to weigh more than 10 lbs. And it's well below the center of gravity.
john
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Originally posted by Atreyu
Although it's somewhat unscientific and biased, I suppose they can only test whatever the manufacturers handed to them.
Again, racing is much more of a test of skills than cars and the 8 is fast enough as a family sport, all-rounded, practical, comfortable, magical and sexy being.
Although it's somewhat unscientific and biased, I suppose they can only test whatever the manufacturers handed to them.
Again, racing is much more of a test of skills than cars and the 8 is fast enough as a family sport, all-rounded, practical, comfortable, magical and sexy being.
john
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Originally posted by Butt Dyno
So, if you improve the aerodynamics, you give the car more power, and give it a better suspension, and start it AHEAD of a STOCK S2000, it will narrowly finish first.
And it will still be 3-4 seconds a lap behind an Evo/STi.
WOW!! What a deal!
I don't buy your "body kits = weight" argument at all. If it's a completely new bumper it's not necessarily heavier, and if it's just a set of lip spoilers, it's not going to weigh more than 10 lbs. And it's well below the center of gravity.
john
So, if you improve the aerodynamics, you give the car more power, and give it a better suspension, and start it AHEAD of a STOCK S2000, it will narrowly finish first.
And it will still be 3-4 seconds a lap behind an Evo/STi.
WOW!! What a deal!
I don't buy your "body kits = weight" argument at all. If it's a completely new bumper it's not necessarily heavier, and if it's just a set of lip spoilers, it's not going to weigh more than 10 lbs. And it's well below the center of gravity.
john
But you are right about one thing, the JDM Mazdaspeed RX-8 is a deal! Again according to R&T SPEED magazine the price is $32,730, that's about the same as the S2000.
(BTW, in the test the Mazdaspeed RX-8 and Nismo 350Z S-tune were ranked tied.)
Last edited by RX-Hachi; 05-12-2004 at 01:51 PM.
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Originally posted by CryoMax
I think the answer is obvious and simple...
Someone with a 350Z can easily pick up a hot date.
Someone with an RX-8 can easily pick up three at a time.
(Cue **** music)
...Paul
I think the answer is obvious and simple...
Someone with a 350Z can easily pick up a hot date.
Someone with an RX-8 can easily pick up three at a time.
(Cue **** music)
...Paul
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Re: hee hee
Originally posted by --Z--
Man, I love gettin a rise outta you guys.
You're sooo sensitive.:D
Man, I love gettin a rise outta you guys.
You're sooo sensitive.:D
I havent seen anyone here show any sensitivity. They could have talked about how hideous the Z is, but no need to since thats obvious to anyone who's seen one. They could have made fun of the Fisher Price-like interior, but that would be an insult to Fisher Price. Or, they could have talked about how ******* dumb each and every idiot who buys a Z is, but no need to, since people like you make that painfully clear.
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Re: hee hee
Originally posted by --Z--
Man, I love gettin a rise outta you guys.
You're sooo sensitive.:D
Man, I love gettin a rise outta you guys.
You're sooo sensitive.:D
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Actually in the revenge battle I believe the RX8 beats a Spec V S2k. If you watch the Revenge battle the RX8 isn't getting killed on the straitaway, and the A-spec has the same acceleration as the stock RX8, so either there was a problem with their stock RX8 or a problem with their driver for the stock RX8.
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Originally posted by Rotarian_SC
so either there was a problem with their stock RX8 or a problem with their driver for the stock RX8.
so either there was a problem with their stock RX8 or a problem with their driver for the stock RX8.