It's not how fast you go...it's how you go fast.

 

what shimz thinks

stock for stock

speed & overall performance=z (how it feels is irrelevant in this category...it's the numbers.)

styling and looks=tie (I love the way rx8's look-and i love the secret four door thingamajic-if i had the $ my next car would be the 8...even though the rotary seems to be high maintenence i'd still be loyal)

interior/quality=hands down rx8 HANDS DOWN!~ (z's interior design isn't so bad it's the quality that SUCKS! you can tell they did everything to cut costs...etc)

ride & feel=probabaly the rx8 because it's lighter like tossing a s2k around the corner.

i love boths cars!~..i don't know why we have so many ignorant 350z owners and rx8 owners....oh, keep forgetting that there are a lot of kids who own these types of cars.

imagine a z and rx8 merged as one....craaaaaaaaaaaazy...

 

Yes, they are both great cars. However, the 8 is so new and handles so differently due to its high rpm torque so the numbers may improve as it is tested more by professionals...

The clutch is so sensitive even a bit of hesitation during engage translate to a little jolt and loss of speed/acceleration. The NSX we have doesn't seem to be that sensitive. Well I was told the transsmition alone in the NSX is already as exepsive as the engines in other cars maybe that's why.

I think Mazda can easily develope a car (be that a 7 or 8) with a 1.6 litre so those who crave power shouldn't have to wait too long. For now 1.3 is enough for a Family sport car like the 8, although it'll be sweet to see a 1.6 litre 8 in the future. Don't know how it'll affect handling and emission though. It'll also be nice if they'll ship the Mazdaspeed 8 A-spec to the US...not likely since there are only 300 even in Japan.

 

Funny. Is it a compliment to the RX-8 or an insult to the 350Z that a broadly focused 4 seat sports sedan can even come close to keeping up with a hard edged 2 seat sports car? Either way, WGAF...

 

Ha, ha, they told you --Z--.

By the way, the way you spell your name looks cool. NOT.

 

You know, I always have wondered about the motivations behind trolls like this...why attack people who have never done anything to you?

Is it envy? Is it a twisted need to inflict pain on people who have something the troll lacks?

Really, is this not an indication of a deeper problem? Something that needs professional help?

It is a sickness, soul deep I think, and a symptom of a sad and pathetic little life.

 

I think I missed the whole point of the original post except perhaps to **** off some people...oh yeah, I guess that was the point. Whatever. If I wanted someone's thoughts on the 350Z compared to XYZ I'd go to that message board. Instead, I come to this board to read biased opinions on the RX8 vs. XYZ.

Move on...nothing to see here, folks.

-Eric

 

no!

 

Who gives a ratts ***? your 350Z is a piece of ****. Compare a 2004 350Z to a 1993 Rx-7 TT and your 350PIG will lose in every contest.

 

Hey, don't give --Z-- a hard time. Clearly he's new to teh interweb and just found out he could watch videos online.

 

Re: Grand Am: that's a series where they try to equalize cars by giving them different modifications. If someone wins a Grand Am race it's 90% the driver and 10% the car..

Revenge race: great, an RX8 with lots of $$$$ in mods hangs with a STOCK S2000. And the S2K got a handicapped start behind the 8.

The best part is that the RX8's best lap time is still 3-4 seconds behind what the Evo's and STi's were getting in Best Motoring Int'l #7. I don't have the DVD's in front of me but I wonder what the S2K was getting in BMI 8 when it beat the 8...

john

 

The RX-8 in the revenge race is still a factory stock car. But it is the Mazdaspeed A-spec factory stock car of which 300 were built in Japan. The main difference, aside from the body kit, is the suspension setup. Road&Track's Speed magazine which tested the Mazdaspeed RX-8 and Nismo Z claimed the that the Mazdaspeed 0-60 times were basically the same as the normal model. Although slight changes were made to the ECU and exhaust, the slight bump in HP was negated by the extra weight of the body kit. So the RX-8's improved performance in the revenge battle was either because of the A-spec suspension or the driver. The S2K already has what's considered a track setup while the RX-8 is tuned for the street. Goes to show how simple changes to the suspension will dramatically change the car's character on the track.

 

....or it illustrates that you have to be driving the RX-8 properly to get good returns.

If you sit around shifting at 5000 rpms and waving the other drivers to pass you, getting 1st place is not an option.

 

Yes sometimes I am not sure why magazines would compare track models of one car with a stock of another like Motortrend's latest comparison between the 8, S2K and Z: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ee/index.html. Although it's somewhat unscientific and biased, I suppose they can only test whatever the manufacturers handed to them.

Again, racing is much more of a test of skills than cars and the 8 is fast enough as a family sport, all-rounded, practical, comfortable, magical and sexy being.

 

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/...c;f=3;t=001514

This is scary

This guy has about 7 times the amount of bearing wear (copper) than the universal average.

And it only has 1300 miles.

 

Did you read the comments on the analysis??

"that's not unusual in new engines such as yours"
"the wear is high due to break-in"
"we think this is going to be a nice engine ffor you"

john

 

So, if you improve the aerodynamics, you give the car more power, and give it a better suspension, and start it AHEAD of a STOCK S2000, it will narrowly finish first.

And it will still be 3-4 seconds a lap behind an Evo/STi.

WOW!! What a deal!

I don't buy your "body kits = weight" argument at all. If it's a completely new bumper it's not necessarily heavier, and if it's just a set of lip spoilers, it's not going to weigh more than 10 lbs. And it's well below the center of gravity.

john

 

Their arguments against the S2000 amounted to "wahh, it's too hard core for us, even though they softened it"

john

 

It's not my argument. I'm just stating the facts as laid out by Road&Track's SPEED magazine, Spring '04 Issue, pg. 36:"the extra power balancing out the weight of the exterior bodywork. Zero-to-60 mph is about 6 seconds". That's because the hp gains are minimal, it's rated at est. 250hp & 165 lb of torque - not much difference from the normal model.

But you are right about one thing, the JDM Mazdaspeed RX-8 is a deal! Again according to R&T SPEED magazine the price is $32,730, that's about the same as the S2000.

(BTW, in the test the Mazdaspeed RX-8 and Nismo 350Z S-tune were ranked tied.)

 

been there, done that...
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IPAD CASES

 

Man, I love gettin a rise outta you guys.

You're sooo sensitive.:D

 

No, sensitive is the average bitch *** Z owner. Say one bad word about the ugly piece of ****, and watch the tears start flowing.

I havent seen anyone here show any sensitivity. They could have talked about how hideous the Z is, but no need to since thats obvious to anyone who's seen one. They could have made fun of the Fisher Price-like interior, but that would be an insult to Fisher Price. Or, they could have talked about how ******* dumb each and every idiot who buys a Z is, but no need to, since people like you make that painfully clear.

 

If I had to drive that piece of crap I'd be looking for something else to do too.

 

Actually in the revenge battle I believe the RX8 beats a Spec V S2k. If you watch the Revenge battle the RX8 isn't getting killed on the straitaway, and the A-spec has the same acceleration as the stock RX8, so either there was a problem with their stock RX8 or a problem with their driver for the stock RX8.

 

Pardon the expression, but the RX-8 driver in that video was a pu**y.