New RX-8 for next year, could this be true?(READ)
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Actually, I think the Rx7 should either come out many years later, or be completely dropped. Its reputation is too good to be messing around with. Then again I have read many points before that does give a reason to bring back the Rx7. For instance, the Skyline is being brought back, despite its risk of ruining the name, but they are still doing it, and people are hyped up about it. Then again we won't really know the result till people starts test driving the Skyline and comparing it with the old, and the result of that most likely be closely watched by Mazda, which will most likely contribute to their final decision to either bring the Rx7 back or not.
At least that is my scenario, lol.
At least that is my scenario, lol.
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One thing though, it makes sense for Mazda to come out with a MS8 or new rotary in the 2008 to 2009 (2009 for the new rotary) time frame.
Many people have 3 to 5 year warranties. Depending on the country, the warranties will expire in the 2008 to 2009 time frame. Mazda should want to keep customers interested and from defecting to something else.
A Mazdaspeed 8 would make sense to hold down the fort if they are still working out the kinks on new rotary technology. Also, Mazda could catch a bunch of customers for extra cash by having them trade up to a Mazdaspeed RX-8, then catch new customers and some of their present ones again with a new rotary 2 years later.
Everyone knows you can FI or do something to at least get 50HP more out of the present rotary. I mean come on, if the Int-X is finding 20HP extra, no matter how retarded the Mazdaspeed engineers may be they gotta be finding some extra HP somewhere. I kinda of think you don't need to go FI to find that extra 50HP. ECU upgrade, air intake tweaks, etc... I would think the Mazdaspeed engineers could come damn close at this point in time without FI. Also, R&D into the new rotary may be showing what they can do to the present rotary engine to get a little more out of it.
On the flip, you damn sure can find ~100HP by going FI, as the pro-tuners like Mazsport and Pettit have shown Mazda. If anything, you would think Mazda engineers would get their hands on those supercharger or turbo kits and figure something out.
Just the 50ish HP jump would put JDM models at ~300HP, what everybody has been begging for for years. 50ish HP more should also be relatively safe to not cause more warranty issues.
Also, I think at this point, Mazda should be thinking more HP. There is no point to really tackle the gas/mpg issues until the next rotary engine release. The RX-8 is getting great reviews now. So I would think you tack on a bit more HP, if you can't get a new rotary engine out soon.
If they have figured out the new rotary, than I would expect a 2009ish release (as it may come late in the year). If they still have issues with the new rotary, I would expect a Mazdaspeed 8 in the 2008 to 2009 time frame and a new rotary in the 2010 to 2011 time frame.
Many people have 3 to 5 year warranties. Depending on the country, the warranties will expire in the 2008 to 2009 time frame. Mazda should want to keep customers interested and from defecting to something else.
A Mazdaspeed 8 would make sense to hold down the fort if they are still working out the kinks on new rotary technology. Also, Mazda could catch a bunch of customers for extra cash by having them trade up to a Mazdaspeed RX-8, then catch new customers and some of their present ones again with a new rotary 2 years later.
Everyone knows you can FI or do something to at least get 50HP more out of the present rotary. I mean come on, if the Int-X is finding 20HP extra, no matter how retarded the Mazdaspeed engineers may be they gotta be finding some extra HP somewhere. I kinda of think you don't need to go FI to find that extra 50HP. ECU upgrade, air intake tweaks, etc... I would think the Mazdaspeed engineers could come damn close at this point in time without FI. Also, R&D into the new rotary may be showing what they can do to the present rotary engine to get a little more out of it.
On the flip, you damn sure can find ~100HP by going FI, as the pro-tuners like Mazsport and Pettit have shown Mazda. If anything, you would think Mazda engineers would get their hands on those supercharger or turbo kits and figure something out.
Just the 50ish HP jump would put JDM models at ~300HP, what everybody has been begging for for years. 50ish HP more should also be relatively safe to not cause more warranty issues.
Also, I think at this point, Mazda should be thinking more HP. There is no point to really tackle the gas/mpg issues until the next rotary engine release. The RX-8 is getting great reviews now. So I would think you tack on a bit more HP, if you can't get a new rotary engine out soon.
If they have figured out the new rotary, than I would expect a 2009ish release (as it may come late in the year). If they still have issues with the new rotary, I would expect a Mazdaspeed 8 in the 2008 to 2009 time frame and a new rotary in the 2010 to 2011 time frame.
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Long thread - guess I'll take a shot at reading the crystal ball:
Since there's been no press, no leaks, no spy photos, I'll predict that 08 will be a straight repeat of 07. Maybe a new color, or maybe not even that, and the stray option change or so.
Future rotary RX-7: Could be. The technologies are all there. It would have to be priced away (higher) from the MX5 so as not to interfere with those sales. So at a price point of say below $40,000 you could squeeze under the Boxsters, and maybe go against Z4's. Related unknowns: Will BMW drop the Z4 and do the MX5 level Z2? Will they do both? Will Honda drop the S2000, or bring out a new car? My strategy would be to shoot for $35,000 max and stay under as many of the high end marques as possible. The Miata thrives on good bang for the buck. Do a 2 seat MX5/RX8 spinoff for $33,550 and maybe it could work. Lose 2 seats and 250 lbs. from the RX8.
Maybe a $50-60,000 high performance car? Don't know how Mazda would do against the other cars in that range, since there's some pretty good hardware out there for 60 large, with high lux badges.
So much for prognosticating, we'll know in Sept.
Since there's been no press, no leaks, no spy photos, I'll predict that 08 will be a straight repeat of 07. Maybe a new color, or maybe not even that, and the stray option change or so.
Future rotary RX-7: Could be. The technologies are all there. It would have to be priced away (higher) from the MX5 so as not to interfere with those sales. So at a price point of say below $40,000 you could squeeze under the Boxsters, and maybe go against Z4's. Related unknowns: Will BMW drop the Z4 and do the MX5 level Z2? Will they do both? Will Honda drop the S2000, or bring out a new car? My strategy would be to shoot for $35,000 max and stay under as many of the high end marques as possible. The Miata thrives on good bang for the buck. Do a 2 seat MX5/RX8 spinoff for $33,550 and maybe it could work. Lose 2 seats and 250 lbs. from the RX8.
Maybe a $50-60,000 high performance car? Don't know how Mazda would do against the other cars in that range, since there's some pretty good hardware out there for 60 large, with high lux badges.
So much for prognosticating, we'll know in Sept.
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