jbwart

so do you think we can use this as an excuse next time anyone gets caught speeding?

"sorry officer, but Mazda says if I am not doing at least 85 my engine will break"

rotten42

but it isn't just cars in the hot climates that are having trouble...there has to be something more to it.

Ike

You call it stepping up, others will call is damage control. I think Mazda has pie on their face and they're trying to figure out how to make it go away.

RevTo9K

Thank you for the info. Your whole post was very interesting, especially the part quoted above.

RexApex

The problem is carbon build up right? How does adding more oil reduce carbon build up?
-R.

Jackallll

maybe the new engines will hit the claimed 247hp...

i personally wonder if each mazda dealer has techs who can properly diagnose engines which need to be replaced and which dont. frankly, i dont trust most of them. i imagine this recall could be extremely costly for mazda.

RevTo9K

There's some truth to that, but they are certainly going to alot of trouble to try to get it right. They could have just blown the whole thing off.

wantan8

My question here is, can this problem continue? So what if get a new engine, are you still going to have hot climate problems? See, I'm all fine with all of the 8's quirks, but if I find hot weather is a problem, that cancels out buying an 8 in most parts of the country. What are the cause of these oil leaks and how will they be fixed so as to not happen again? I guess noone really knows right now?

RenoIV

Thanks for the info!!
Where did you obtain it? Are you a Mazda Tech?

ZoomZoomH

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ibfubar2000 DOES have Mazda contact....

ibfubar2000

The recall will tell the tech how to diagnose it, the tech will not really be doing too much diagnosing, the car will be hooked up to a display that will guide the tech when/how to drive rev engine etc. and if the car falls within the proper specs then only the flash will be done. ALL RECALLS ARE COSTLY TO THE MANUFACTURERS. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO DO FOR THE CUSTOMER FREE OF CHARGE. its better then not doing anything and making the comsumer buy a new engine after the car is out of warranty. or leaving the customer with a car that looses power, at least Mazda is doing SOMETHING.

otherside

However you want look at it, the result is the same. Mazda is fixing the problem at no expense to you. If you think Mazda is saying " All those people saw our video about the survey process so we better recall thousands of cars and potentially lose hundreds of thousands of dollars so they stop crying" your way off. Alot of research went into the RX8 engine issues well before the survey fiasco.

RenoIV

Thanks Zoom!!

Seems panic and hysteria will have to wait for another disaster.

ibfubar2000

Another thing to rememebr is this is new engine technology, Mazda really has no idea if the long term effects of this engine, they did tests, yes, but it is difficult to do real life tests especially since everybody has different driving techniques. There will be things that come up after a few years that Mazda will hopefully repair for us when/if it becomes a major issue.

BTW I work for a Mazda dealer in Cerritos, Ca. so yes I consider myself a good reliable resource.

RevTo9K

I don't think so. There was an example posted by zoom of carbon buildup from synth oil use, but my understanding was that this was damage to the seals from lack of oil when operating at low rpms, exacerbated by heat/low humidity/only one oil cooler. I could be wrong though.

Ike

What flash are you guys up to now, how much HP was the car supposed to have upon release? Maybe not as much research as they should have done... I don't think Mazda is doing this recall solely because of the video leak, but I bet action was taken a little sooner (maybe they weren't going to take action) than they had planned. Anyone want to take bets that Mazda will try to spin this to make it look like the RX-8 surveys wouldn't count because they had a big recall planned?

wantan8

Then this is a fair question, if I was to buy an 06 today, will the issues have been fixed on the ones sitting on the lots?

I like the 8 the same as the next person, but asking questions and inquiring on this is a smart move. I don't want to buy a car that has problems in hot weather. I think thats a reasonable statement. If the recalls have been done on all the new 06 8s that haven't been sold, then I will be less worried.

DrDiaboloco

Yeah, buddayyy... I don't want someone else's 50k-mile housings to replace my so-far-trouble-free engine with under 5k miles on it.

otherside

The glass is always half empty isnt it...

ibfubar2000

That is a fair question. The recall has not been done on any car as of today, because the recall has not been released to the dealer yet, as far as what exactly needs to be done, the only thing we have seen is a webinar explaining what the techs will need to do. as soon as the recall is released, next week, all the dealers should perform the recalls on the cars in stock before they are sold, If the recall applies to them, You can always ask your salesman, after next week, if the recall applies to the car your buying, the newer cars may not even need the recall because it may have been done in the dock or by the manufacturer before they got to the dealer. If you want to buy the car today, and it falls within the recall then you will have to bring it back next week, but I would not worry that much about it. I really dont thinki the 06 RX8 are that effected as much as the 04-05

Ajax

More than likely, the car will be flashed with the new flash before you buy it, assuming that all dealers have the flash available in WDS.
If you're concerned, make sure the dealer does it before signing anything.

Ike

I'm actually an optimist by nature (believe it or not). Mazda brought this on themselves and people have every right to be skeptical of their motives and methods.

KYLiquid

this has been the on going problem I have had with the car for the last 1 year/12000 miles.....the cars rpm drop and power cuts out.....but it doesnt do it all the time, only after sitting in traffic/getting hot from driving at low speed in hot weather (Orlando, FL). Even then it only does it SOME times.......

because it only happens some times, the dealer can never find it....they experienced it 1 time and replaced the engine (the engine checked out prior to replacement with PERFECT crompression according to the tech...but they still felt the need to replace it. After replacement the car still did the same thing so they replaced the fuel injector wiring harness cause the current one had a short in it.

I got the car back and it ran fine for a few weeks, then did it again, I took it in to get a reflash and have the eccentric shaft position sensor replaced......a few weeks later it came back and I took it in....they couldnt get it to do the problem and gave the car back, within a few mins of driving it the car did it again, I drove with another tech in the car and he saw the problem.

They replaced the fuel pump and its wiring harness.....the problem went away for a few months and recently came back. I took the car in again, this time because the rear bumper was melting around the exhaust pipes, and the muffler itself was BLUE from the heat.

They replaced the muffler and the rear bumper/trim and reflashed the car and said they couldnt get it to do the problem.

The problem is still there and I just experienced it the other day. According to the dealer my rebuilt engine still has compression "with in spec"

I dont want/need a new motor IMO....I need the real problem with the car fixed.....will this recall do that?

I am getting really tired of having a car that randomly shuts off, while im pulling out into traffic, getting on the highway, in the middle of my drive to work.

This car has gotten to the point that its cost me enough time/money/aggrivation.......if they can fix the problem then do it......if not, tell me so I can take action to get rid of the car.......

The car is 100% stock, and runs on 5w20 mineral oil (Castrol GTX, cause its all thats avalible around here).

ibfubar2000

WHY?? why be skeptical?? why not wait until next week. WHEN THE FACTS are released. why start a riot when it is not neccesarry? why be paranoid???

ibfubar2000

sounds like you will be the 1% to get a new engine, that should fix the problem. Your the 1% that the recall came out to fix. Let Mazda replace the engine again, with the update before taking any other actions, but again wait until THE RECALL COMES OUT before calling the dealer. Just wait until next week, make an appointment, and let them do what needs to be done.