No change. It's still peppy when I hit 5,000 rpm's.

 

Sorry for the repost -- was too tired to care and look last night.

And thanks.....I'll try and be a contributor as best I can. If/when I get any word on the recall, I'll let people know.

 

Are these videos anywhere that we can watch?

 

My 2002 Jeep Liberty is being recalled in September for a ball joint replacement.

My 2005 RX-8 is scheduled for service in Sept, which will most likely include the vaccum test, although I saw no loss of power in the 100 degF days we had earlier in the month.

Hey, shiite happens. Better that they're actually addressing the issue.

 

Are you sure it's 5k? Mine doens't get "peppy" until after 6,500 or so... I noticed it dropped to 5k when I installed a Canzoomer for a while, but since I pulled it out it's back up to over 6,000 before the power really starts to spool out.

I heard they leaned out the fuel with this new flash, which is mostly how the Canzoomer affected performance so I'm wondering that even though it may not match the performance of a canzoomer, there should be some gains if the fuel reduction is true.

 

YEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH! BASH MAZDA BASH MAZDA LET THE BASHING PARADE CONTINUE!!!!

 

Can I have your stuff?

Moving on.

I called my local mazda dealer, who's been pretty good to me. I asked him about the film on my headlights, and he asked if I want to bring it in tomorrow, I told him I wanted to wait until I got the recall letter so I could kill two birds with one stone. He said I didn't have to wait and they'll just do the recall when they take a look at my headlights. It should take about 1.5 hours or so to finish everything.

So, I scheduled an appointment next week wednesday, I'll let you guys know what happens.

 

My dealership is top notch in the service dept. I had an appointment for some minor stuff set for tomorrow and I am going to mention the recall at the same time. Most likely they will do the test and let me know the results.

I'll let you all know ASAP what happens. By the way I am in the Northeast so we will see if there is a direct correlation between the heat and the recall. It does get hot and humid here too but not for super longs periods.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to the procedure, they will conduct the test only if the vehicle had a replaced engine and/or history of loss of power, etc. or if there are customer complains about loss of power....

If the vehicle is working with no problem, they will skip the drivability test and go straight to Procedure D (reprogram PCM).....

 

^^ or low idle complaints.

 

correct.

 

I believe according to the procedure, my car should not need a replaced engine. If my dealership tells me that it does, then they are not following the recall procedure correctly. They should just check the catalitic converter, maybe spark plugs and go to re-program the PCM..... nothing else.....I might take the procedure documents just in case they start telling me otherwise....

 

I doubt they will waste their time (and yours) testing it w/o any of the noted complaints. No dealer is going to be looking forward to replacing engines.

 

Much less spending a half hour per car driving around town, shifting below 3000

 

maybe at retail rates..... warranty wont pay that good.....just had a customer pick up an 06 mx5.... 9994 miles on it water injested by a cold air intake replaced short block,head,and carpet insurance paid the bill at retail rates at $8100 and change.

 

warranty pays the same as would be charged the customer. as long as you do it in the time allowed

 

Mazda's allowable and claimable Warranty repair times (Labor), are very conservative.

All removal and replacement procedures have a factory "Operational Number" and a set Labor time rate in point(s) of hours for every operation....

As an example if a dealer's mechanic takes 15.0 hours to remove and replace an engine, and the factory operational times are 9.5 hours, then only the 9.5 hours of labor is paid by Mazda at the normal retail rates....

A dealer can not charge whatever labor times he wants to...for obvious reasons.

The only exception is when work done on a customers car is sublet-ed out to another repairer that is not a Mazda dealership (say, a seat trim repairer), in this case the dealer can claim from Mazda for the total invoice cost from that sublet repairer....these are also audited.

In my experience a dealer never really profits from warranty work, particularly any rework.

 

Generally break even...IF he has a GOOD TEAM of Mechanics....??

 

*yawn* still waiting for my engine
...'course its only been like 3 days. Gah, i hate waiting for crap.

 

That explains a lot.

 

That's what I was getting at. Basically, I don't think many dealers will replace engines and take the chance that they lose man hours in the process. More importantly - Mazda will not be just shipping out engines w/o a giant paper trail including all the data from a failed vacuum test.

 

Dealers can't do most any warranty work without the express approval of the MNAO Dealer Tech Line, and certainly the engine warranty situation will be an ongoing intimate conversation about any suspect cars long before any replacing of engines takes place. I take it to be similar to medical insurance, for full coverage, you have to get pre-approval before any operations take place.

At least that's what I have experienced.

 

I took my 2004 RX8 with manual to my friendly dealer for a oil change yesterday. I was informed of the recall (#4206F) to check for bad oil seals. I had not received anything in the mail from Mazda so I was clueless. It wasn't till I got home and did some checking on-line that I found out what was going on. Anyway they performed the recall. They must have found the oil seals were okay since all they did was do the ECU reflash and replace two plugs (Part #N3Y9-18-110). I had no problems with loss of power or hesitation. I live in the Washington, DC area and drive my RX8 mostly commuting to work. I don't do alot of high speed crusing. When commuting to work I pretty much keep the RPMs between 4-7K. The only time the RPMs get below 4K is when I am on a highway doing 60-70mph in 6 speed. They also replaced my starter although I had no starting problems (I am religious about not starting the engine and then turning it right off). I am wondering if the reported oil seal problems occuring in hot and dry climates (like the USA SW) also is because in those areas people then to drive in high speed cruising mode (low RPMs) for long periods of time. Also is Mazda's recommend 5W-20 oil a contributing factor. I have followed that recommendation but always thought that a heavier weight oil might be better.

 

welcome to the forum- what dealer did you go to? I'm from the same area. (arlington)
the oil debate has been mentioned a few times on the forum, if you do a quick search you can get some info on it- im stil on 5w20 myself, and my engine seems fine though ive had few rumbly low idles, (only 3 in the 2.5 years ive had it).

 

Thanks for your contribution, especially since this appears to be your first post. The oil recommendation does make you wonder.

Paul.