Mazda Europe VP of Marketing hints at MPS/Mazdaspeed RX-8
10-05-2006, 06:36 PM
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Mazda Europe VP of Marketing hints at MPS/Mazdaspeed RX-8
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...other_suv.html
Masahiro Moro had this to say(among other things)
Masahiro Moro had this to say(among other things)
the Japanese firm has also hinted that it could expand its sporty MPS brand in the future. Currently, only the 3 family hatchback plus 6 saloon and estate get the performance upgrade. But Moro explained: "There's no concrete plan yet. Maybe the RX-8 or MX-5, or even the 5 could be added."
10-05-2006, 06:50 PM
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I am pretty sure they wont make a Mazdaspeed 5 haha... wats the point! errr Mazdaspeed MX-5........ its a little new, ususally doesnt happen until 3rd or 4th year....
so.............. that leaves the RX-8!
yay, mazdaspeed8 next year!
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so.............. that leaves the RX-8!
yay, mazdaspeed8 next year!
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10-05-2006, 10:11 PM
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If they have no plans yet, but COULD be doing it, that means what? 2009 or 2010 at the earliest?
10-07-2006, 02:40 PM
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I'll be pissed if the new MX-5 gets the MS treatment before the RX-8. But it's probably much easier to just take the same 2.3L turbo they've got in the MS6, MS3 & CX-7 and squeeze it into the MX-5. Or they could simply turbocharge the 2.0L in the MX-5.
Anything less than 285-300 hp won't do for a MS RX-8, but it's easier said than done.
Anything less than 285-300 hp won't do for a MS RX-8, but it's easier said than done.
10-07-2006, 03:31 PM
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I'll be pissed if the new MX-5 gets the MS treatment before the RX-8. But it's probably much easier to just take the same 2.3L turbo they've got in the MS6, MS3 & CX-7 and squeeze it into the MX-5. Or they could simply turbocharge the 2.0L in the MX-5.
Anything less than 285-300 hp won't do for a MS RX-8, but it's easier said than done.
Anything less than 285-300 hp won't do for a MS RX-8, but it's easier said than done.
10-08-2006, 06:19 AM
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I posted a link about the possibility of a Mazdaspeed (MPS) MX-5 nearly 2 weeks ago when the Mazda President was in Australia...
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/mazda-president-rotary-future-99733/
The MX-5 designer when questioned was asked about a turbo MX-5 and said..
"MX-5 program manager Takao Kijima has ruled out a rotary engine and even a turbo boost for the convertible sportscar.
He says it is more likely the car may be fitted with a slightly larger engine, probably a 2.3-litre four-cylinder with direct injection technology to give the car a mid-life boost."
If a 2.3 litre MZR 'DI' engine is not a turbo...then?
Would be great to read concrete evidence that an RX-8 IS in the PIPELINE..to help put all of us out of our missery...this speculation has been going on for a few years now...somehow I still have faith that it WILL happen....sooner rather than later...
Goes to show the the Autoexpress journo fails to proof read his text, an MPS Wagon was Not on the cards...But a Mazdapeed 6 (MPS) Hatchback was an original concept model.
As far as a Mazdaspeed (MPS) 5...Interesting...believe that one when I see it, perhaps he meant the Mazda 5 Rotary Hybrid Concept?
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/mazda-president-rotary-future-99733/
The MX-5 designer when questioned was asked about a turbo MX-5 and said..
"MX-5 program manager Takao Kijima has ruled out a rotary engine and even a turbo boost for the convertible sportscar.
He says it is more likely the car may be fitted with a slightly larger engine, probably a 2.3-litre four-cylinder with direct injection technology to give the car a mid-life boost."
If a 2.3 litre MZR 'DI' engine is not a turbo...then?
Would be great to read concrete evidence that an RX-8 IS in the PIPELINE..to help put all of us out of our missery...this speculation has been going on for a few years now...somehow I still have faith that it WILL happen....sooner rather than later...
Goes to show the the Autoexpress journo fails to proof read his text, an MPS Wagon was Not on the cards...But a Mazdapeed 6 (MPS) Hatchback was an original concept model.
As far as a Mazdaspeed (MPS) 5...Interesting...believe that one when I see it, perhaps he meant the Mazda 5 Rotary Hybrid Concept?
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10-08-2006, 12:22 PM
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of course the official word from Mazda North America via Jeremy Barnes is as usual:
i know better than to ask really but thought since the Euro guy said something that MNAO might want to contribute to the hype as well.
On the new business: I can't discuss any future products. Period.
Sorry. Any speculation you've seen or read is just that: speculation,
and I cannot confirm or deny it.
Sorry. Any speculation you've seen or read is just that: speculation,
and I cannot confirm or deny it.
10-08-2006, 12:49 PM
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If the MS 8 comes out, I want to be able to buy the go fast parts over the counter...
Mazda needs to do something. All the sports cars are getting bumps in power and handling. The 8 is getting left behind, and we didn't start in the front to begin with.
I vote for a halo car in a new 7! But I will take a MS 8.
Mazda needs to do something. All the sports cars are getting bumps in power and handling. The 8 is getting left behind, and we didn't start in the front to begin with.
I vote for a halo car in a new 7! But I will take a MS 8.
10-08-2006, 05:35 PM
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J Barnes is just a PR beek... he won't tell you much, he must love you after the RX-8 Service Video issue.. 
PR guys tend to know very little on any new model thats more than a year or so away...
From my experience here it was the State and National Service Managers (Wholesale) knew a lot more on what was actually IN the pipeline from regular meetings and briefings in Hiroshima, you would get to know what Mazda is developing in terms of new engines, transmissions, etc 6 years or more from their release...
Spare Parts departments have to submit initial parts orders 12 to 18 months out from any new model release....you could get an idea what's in the new model, what parts are reused (engine,tranny) or all new by their part numbers..
The only thing generally what Service and Parts Managers could not tell you is what the car looked like, those briefings are about 12 to 18 months out also, with VERY limited pics.
As J Barnes says...its all speculation... and his job security/position protection.
PR guys tend to know very little on any new model thats more than a year or so away...From my experience here it was the State and National Service Managers (Wholesale) knew a lot more on what was actually IN the pipeline from regular meetings and briefings in Hiroshima, you would get to know what Mazda is developing in terms of new engines, transmissions, etc 6 years or more from their release...
Spare Parts departments have to submit initial parts orders 12 to 18 months out from any new model release....you could get an idea what's in the new model, what parts are reused (engine,tranny) or all new by their part numbers..
The only thing generally what Service and Parts Managers could not tell you is what the car looked like, those briefings are about 12 to 18 months out also, with VERY limited pics.
As J Barnes says...its all speculation... and his job security/position protection.
10-08-2006, 07:36 PM
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Even when the MS RX-8 gets released, or if, people are still not gonna be happy. I have seen it hinted at many times that if a MS RX-8 does get released it will be supercharged, and if you look at Pettit Racings supercharger they are getting about 60hp on theirs. Sooo, in short, if the RX-8 does get the mazdaspeed treatment, expect a new badge, maybe different wheels, maybe mazdaspeed parts, and a supercharger, and expect it to be rediculously overpriced for 60 extra horsies. And then also consider this, 60hp is with an aggressive tune, Mazda is anything but aggressive with their FI, so I am guessing 275hp is what will be stamped on the outside, and at the dyno we'll be seeing 230-240 on a good day. I think the people waiting for the mazdaspeed version are fooling themselves and the only way to get any decent power out of the renesis is with a turbo or supercharger thats already been released. Mazda isn't going to do anything that hasn't been done better already.
10-09-2006, 07:10 AM
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240 rwhp its perfect for this car, this car does not need 1000 hp more to be compeititve, you can allways get more out of aftermarket parts but will it be relyable?
did you see the video of the JDM mazdaspeed on track? that car was tested and there was no improvement in straigt line aceleration, and yet it was able to beat an s2000 and a lot of other cars, it was 3 seconds faster around the track, IMAGINE THIS CAR WITH 50 OR 60 RWHP MORE!
did you see the video of the JDM mazdaspeed on track? that car was tested and there was no improvement in straigt line aceleration, and yet it was able to beat an s2000 and a lot of other cars, it was 3 seconds faster around the track, IMAGINE THIS CAR WITH 50 OR 60 RWHP MORE!
10-09-2006, 02:58 PM
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having Mazdaspeed parts available for a car and releasing a Mazdaspeed version of the car are two completely different things. There were actually 5 different "kits" for the FD: A-Spec, 15th Anniversary, GTC, R-Spec and B-Spec; but never a Mazdaspeed RX-7 that you could buy from the dealership.
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10-09-2006, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
they aleady have that available.
and actually I think Mr. Barnes and I get along quite well.
and actually I think Mr. Barnes and I get along quite well.
See Barnsey has a new helper Charlie...Danica Laub!
"MAZDA NORTH AMERICAN OPERATIONS NAMES DANICA LAUB COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST
Mazda North American Operations today announced the recent appointment of Danica Laub as communications specialist. Reporting to Jeremy Barnes, group manager, product communications, Laub will serve as a media contact for all North American media on issues relating to Mazda’s current and future vehicles, corporate marketing and event communications and Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca events."
Hi Danica!!