bulletproof21

^thats what i hear, as well as the increased displacement of the 16x.

ftf1337

The displacement alone of the 16X does not increase torque. It is the fact that they made the rotor vertically larger (rotor is larger corner to coner). Making a longer stroke.

So it is not the increased displacement but the direction of the displacement.

DMRH

More info............

Mazda did the same thing 35+ years ago with the 13A engine. In simple terms......

13A was a stroked version of the original 10A. 655cc x 2 = 1310cc
13B was a bored version of the original 10A. 654cc x 2 = 1308cc


Torque rating on the 13A was higher. Personally, I have driven a 13A powered R-130 & it easily had more low end torque compared to a carby 13B from an RX-4.

Torque ratings.................

13A = 172 NM (export version)
13B = 159 NM (USA version RX-4)

REgards

heyarnold69

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mine is nicer.... that is ricer!

astav

anyone have pictures of the red leather which is an option on the black non-r3 models?

SayNoToPistons

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www.mazdausa.com

Jennbug86

Does anyone else see some similarity to the Mitsubishi Lancer? I dont like the changes except for the seats, I think the "facelift" makes it look cheap.

SayNoToPistons

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No...

CyberPitz

Man, I still can't get over the awesome looks the 09's have. I wish I had one!

REtali8

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The pictures on Mazda's website doesn't really do the red leather justice imo. I had seen the pictures and thought it was a bit too bright, when I went to order my 09 they had one in stock. One look and I was head over heels. If your really wanting to decide, find a dealer in your area and see it in person.

icey?

hmmm i think its sexy but i wouldn't pay that much for the minor upgrades done to it...

its pretty much a flashy 04 they should have made it stock turbo or something.

but if i was ballin i would get one lol

alz0rz

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astav

i agree with you... but unfortunately there is no dealer in my area that has one with red leather in stock...
if possible could you post a few photos with the red leather... thanks!

REtali8

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If it's still on the lot this weekend I'll do some photos...