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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Why does everyone get so defensive to see the RX8 get beaten in reviews? I really don't fathom what the big deal is.
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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we don't get defensive when it gets beaten, we get defensive when people make mistakes.

unless there is a Z involved... then we just get tired.

Hey Zoom. When you say new Engines, are you referring to 09+'s? Or Lower Mileage?
Old Aug 24, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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Look at the torque on the MS3!
Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Why does everyone get so defensive to see the RX8 get beaten in reviews? I really don't fathom what the big deal is.

small genitals.
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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hahaha small genitals.
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Symbioticgenius
we don't get defensive when it gets beaten, we get defensive when people make mistakes.

unless there is a Z involved... then we just get tired.

Hey Zoom. When you say new Engines, are you referring to 09+'s? Or Lower Mileage?

09+


and im not offended that it was bettered by other newer cars- i'm disgusted with the methodology and the bias in the writing. the "measured" stat isnt the dyno result- its a guess at the crank . its not measured so dont call it that.
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Help!

The RX-8 in this issue is mine. I love the car regardless of it's weak points, but the dyno was a low blow. Do I have a lemon?
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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No you don't have a lemon, but your HP curve is very choppy. This is probably dur to bad spark plugs and or ignition coils....
Old Aug 31, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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I just watched the DVD that came with this magazine last night and it makes me wanna get a Genesis. They are definitely Z fanboi's though.
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
I just watched the DVD that came with this magazine last night and it makes me wanna get a Genesis. They are definitely Z fanboi's though.
I thought of the Genesis but then I though hyuandai (sp?), new untested model and price...


Couldn't beat the price on a used, low mile RX8 and it's still a very fun car regardless.
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
i'm disgusted with the methodology and the bias in the writing. the "measured" stat isnt the dyno result- its a guess at the crank . its not measured so dont call it that.
Why weren't the real whp #'s shown?

The main issue I have with this is that the fwd and rwd were treated with the same loss percentage.

"a 15-percent assumed driveline loss. "MEASURED POWER" figures can be compared across the group to make real-world comparisons across different cars"

Well, our little "193.6 crank" rx8 beat the "246 crank" s2k. Interesting...


So this 09 dyno'd 168.34, a bit low! Damn, that s2k dyno'd 214, that's not bad...

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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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"cough" wet track "cough"

Do you take any of the top gear wet laps seriously?
Of course, with the Stig driving. With some dickwad from D-Sport driving, not so much.

And yes, that 8 is definitely looking a bit sick up top. Too late now that it's in print, but it looks as if it could use some new plugs and coils. It's a 2010, how many miles can it have? They are right, a shame to have such a great chassis and inability to make advertised power.
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by vr6corry
The RX-8 in this issue is mine. I love the car regardless of it's weak points, but the dyno was a low blow. Do I have a lemon?
Originally Posted by BOOSTD 7
And yes, that 8 is definitely looking a bit sick up top. Too late now that it's in print, but it looks as if it could use some new plugs and coils. It's a 2010, how many miles can it have? They are right, a shame to have such a great chassis and inability to make advertised power.
Hey, vr6corry, how many miles are on your car?
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Yeah watching them do the quarter mile runs on the DVD is pretty sad. The Z was off by a second and he just brushed it off like it was a bad launch, haha. The Lancer Ralliart also dynoed way low and they eluded to an engine problem but kept testing it.
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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why?! Thats dumb.
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vr6corry
The RX-8 in this issue is mine. I love the car regardless of it's weak points, but the dyno was a low blow. Do I have a lemon?
Pics of your car?
Old Sep 3, 2009 | 02:53 AM
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Thank you!

Thanks guys,

@ Darth, I notice that when i get above 7K RPMs, the power band isnt as smooth- I will def check the sparks.

@YAXMANGTO, the car at the time had 5k on it. I drive the car pretty hard into the revvs, keeping a close eye on the oil level. I'm well past the break in.

@ caranddriver, pics of my car are in the magazine. maybe ill upload some other pics. Love the new color!

As a side note, I had an Infiniti G35c before this car and I think the rx-8 is a funner car to drive. The g feels heavy and the 6 speed is garbage compared to the rx-8.

Corry
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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The rx8 has a 21% drivetrain loss. The guy at the garage I went to told me that the Dynojet's tech sent it out to all dynojets that rx8's have that much loss at the wheels. So let's say 180whp x 21%=217hp to the flywheel
Sorry but, math doesnt work that way. If it has the 232 as advertised now, you would say 232 x .21 = 48.72 or to do it another way, you would just multiply by .79 which is 183.28.... to get back to the 232, you would divide 183.28 by .79. In doing this, either the hp is over rated or the tq is under rated. Depends on what you go by. According to my dyno, stock was 181.5 and 133.7 respectively. The 181.5 / .79 = 229.74 but, if you do the tq numbers the same way, 133.7 / .79 = 169.2 but is rated 159. Go figure. Somewhere in the middle of 15 and 21 percent drivetrain loss is the truth. The 8 that they tested was not anywhere close to healthy or it was an auto and they just put 6speed version for the stats. It is sad that there is so much negativity on the 8 and rotary engine for that matter.

Just read some other posts on here and it was a 6speed but obviously had issues. the plugs could have been the culprit but, hard to say, the rotary gets better with time but, my 8 didnt get anywhere near that bad even new. Usually it is the connection to the plugs and/or the plugs themselves. I still have original coils and, I have 55k miles on mine. I am looking to replace them but, it still runs very strong. I just wanted to correct the math and, all of you know that the stock 8 should dyno in at 180+ whp and this was a fluke of the wrong car at the wrong place at the wrong time with issues that are not as common as people make them out to be with that few of miles on the car.

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