2009 RX-8 on Mazda website
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What's so bad about it? It's an opinion. In my opinion the RX-8 has always looked iffy at best! Something has always looked wrong about the RX-8 and now it all looks in harmony. In other words the car no longer looks heavy and slow. It looks lighter and more nimble. It's amazing how simple looks can give you that impression. This is how the car should have always been designed. Well, except for that damn steering wheel and maybe the rear bumper. They got the front end right though.
The car was far more elegant before. It just hinted in the angular direction before, but retained some RX-7 character. That's out the window now.
The front is 100% ugly, especially the base mode. The Speed version is acceptable, mostly because it looks more like the original bumper. Still, as a whole the Speed version only has that pumped up last-gen Mustang look going for it. A bit overdone, with lots and lots of plastic stuck on everywhere.
Then again, a lot of people on here think the spoiler ruins the car, but like the extra clunky cladding, so there might be demand for the Steroid-Mustang look.
Also the new rear end has that awful *** up in the air look like the Neon and the Cobalt. The RX-8 avoided all these pratfalls before.
But they HAD to ugly it up so that the next-gen model will look far superior right?
They capitalized on some of their concept car design cues, but it totally doesn't mesh with the original design at all. Frankenstein monster it is.
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Interesting note....while at Lime Rock Park I spoke with SpeedSource about the new RX-8 and they mentioned that they will be running a car based upon how the R3 model looks and not a seperate MS kit. Of course it'll be modified to accomodate the much larger tires.
Here we are inside the trailor in a discussion.
Here we are inside the trailor in a discussion.
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flame suit needed or not, what the #$%& did mazda do to this poor car?! I think the new one looks hideous. I mean...seriously people.
They make a few goofy exterior mods and call it new and improved, while completely ignoring the one thing everyone has wanted out of it...MORE OOMPH.
If i still had my 8 i'd be holding onto it for dear life, cause i can honestly say that if I hadn't bought an 8 before, there's no way this one would have attracted me to it...in any way. Before it at least had the stellar looks to carry it throught, but now...yuck.
glad to see mazda's been listening to everyone's input...again.
They make a few goofy exterior mods and call it new and improved, while completely ignoring the one thing everyone has wanted out of it...MORE OOMPH.
If i still had my 8 i'd be holding onto it for dear life, cause i can honestly say that if I hadn't bought an 8 before, there's no way this one would have attracted me to it...in any way. Before it at least had the stellar looks to carry it throught, but now...yuck.
glad to see mazda's been listening to everyone's input...again.
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flame suit needed or not, what the #$%& did mazda do to this poor car?! I think the new one looks hideous. I mean...seriously people.
They make a few goofy exterior mods and call it new and improved, while completely ignoring the one thing everyone has wanted out of it...MORE OOMPH.
If i still had my 8 i'd be holding onto it for dear life, cause i can honestly say that if I hadn't bought an 8 before, there's no way this one would have attracted me to it...in any way. Before it at least had the stellar looks to carry it throught, but now...yuck.
glad to see mazda's been listening to everyone's input...again.
They make a few goofy exterior mods and call it new and improved, while completely ignoring the one thing everyone has wanted out of it...MORE OOMPH.
If i still had my 8 i'd be holding onto it for dear life, cause i can honestly say that if I hadn't bought an 8 before, there's no way this one would have attracted me to it...in any way. Before it at least had the stellar looks to carry it throught, but now...yuck.
glad to see mazda's been listening to everyone's input...again.
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Alas I must agree that if I were shopping today I wouldn't buy the RX-8.
But this is not unusual in the automotive industry. The original Datsun 240Z comes readily to mind. Every subsequent version further perverted the original simple elegance. Marketeers will always recommend slapping on some more/different plastic and calling it 'new and improved.'
On the plus side, most of the more popular options are now included in the base.
No matter to me; I'll have my '8 for a good long time.
But this is not unusual in the automotive industry. The original Datsun 240Z comes readily to mind. Every subsequent version further perverted the original simple elegance. Marketeers will always recommend slapping on some more/different plastic and calling it 'new and improved.'
On the plus side, most of the more popular options are now included in the base.
No matter to me; I'll have my '8 for a good long time.
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I'm curious how the new gear ratios and the final drive gear feel in the new car.
It seems first gear is made quite shorter combined with shorter final drive.
Current North American gear ratio for MT:
1: 3.760
2: 2.269
3: 1.645
4: 1.187
5: 1.000
6: 0.843
R: 3.564
Final Drive: 4.444
Refresh North American Gear Ratio:
1: 3.815
2: 2.260
3: 1.536
4: 1.177
5: 1.00
6: 0.787
R: 3.603
Final Drive: 4.777
If it feels good, a tranny and final drive swap is in order.
It seems first gear is made quite shorter combined with shorter final drive.
Current North American gear ratio for MT:
1: 3.760
2: 2.269
3: 1.645
4: 1.187
5: 1.000
6: 0.843
R: 3.564
Final Drive: 4.444
Refresh North American Gear Ratio:
1: 3.815
2: 2.260
3: 1.536
4: 1.177
5: 1.00
6: 0.787
R: 3.603
Final Drive: 4.777
If it feels good, a tranny and final drive swap is in order.
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The 2009 RX-8 is ugly. Plain and simple as that.
I dislike pretty much everything that they did on the outside. The exceptions are maybe the somewhat larger exhaust tips and perhaps the rear lights, but I'm not even sure I really like the latter enough. The rims are better.
Inside there are some good moves, but at least as many bad ones too.
I'm very happy that I have the earlier version and seriously doubt that the facelift will help sales much. We'll see.
I dislike pretty much everything that they did on the outside. The exceptions are maybe the somewhat larger exhaust tips and perhaps the rear lights, but I'm not even sure I really like the latter enough. The rims are better.
Inside there are some good moves, but at least as many bad ones too.
I'm very happy that I have the earlier version and seriously doubt that the facelift will help sales much. We'll see.
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I just got around to watching the old RX8-M3-Z TopGear segment (on utube) and
1. They're dead on that the 8 is the most fun car out there and easy to drive it fast
2. They said exactly the same thing about the Z-car lineage (I guess they lived it, as did I)
1. They're dead on that the 8 is the most fun car out there and easy to drive it fast
2. They said exactly the same thing about the Z-car lineage (I guess they lived it, as did I)
Alas I must agree that if I were shopping today I wouldn't buy the RX-8.
But this is not unusual in the automotive industry. The original Datsun 240Z comes readily to mind. Every subsequent version further perverted the original simple elegance. Marketeers will always recommend slapping on some more/different plastic and calling it 'new and improved.'
On the plus side, most of the more popular options are now included in the base.
No matter to me; I'll have my '8 for a good long time.
But this is not unusual in the automotive industry. The original Datsun 240Z comes readily to mind. Every subsequent version further perverted the original simple elegance. Marketeers will always recommend slapping on some more/different plastic and calling it 'new and improved.'
On the plus side, most of the more popular options are now included in the base.
No matter to me; I'll have my '8 for a good long time.
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So are the pre-2009 rx-8's if you ask me, too many little gizmo's and plasticky things stuck everywhere. Plain and simple as that. After seeing the big-mouth of the 2009's the pre-2009's now look like they just ate something sour and have their lips pursed.
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The New 09 RX-8 has just been released here Today..
One thing I noticed is the color selection, we get Galaxy Grey and Brilliant Black, plus the new colors.
Even the GT is available in ALL the 8 colors.
You guys just get the Blue?
http://www.mazda.com.au/Models/Curre...8/Colours.aspx
One thing I noticed is the color selection, we get Galaxy Grey and Brilliant Black, plus the new colors.
Even the GT is available in ALL the 8 colors.
You guys just get the Blue?
http://www.mazda.com.au/Models/Curre...8/Colours.aspx
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if its not on the website, chances are highly likely...they aren't making it. Heck they're already making it in more colors then they have just about any other year. I'd be happy to have that many to chose from now, IMO.
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Take a look at the Australian Site and there are 8 colors available for the GT here.
I am assuming their site is correct?
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No, according to the MazdaUSA website, for the GT, we have a choice of 5 colors, but Aurora Blue and Brilliant Black Clearcoat are only available on the R3, and Galaxy Gray is not available any more.
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Aurora Blue, Galaxy Gray, Brilliant Black, Sparkling Black, Sunlight Silver, Diamond Grey, Velocity Red, and White are available here in the R3 (Our GT) That is 8 Colors
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Ah. Well to answer your earlier question, we can get the R3 (your GT) in 3 colors: Aurora Blue, Brilliant Black Clearcoat, and Velocity Red. Personally, I think I would get the black because of the black plastic grille abomination, but I've yet to see Aurora Blue in person.
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Ah. Well to answer your earlier question, we can get the R3 (your GT) in 3 colors: Aurora Blue, Brilliant Black Clearcoat, and Velocity Red. Personally, I think I would get the black because of the black plastic grille abomination, but I've yet to see Aurora Blue in person.
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Alas I must agree that if I were shopping today I wouldn't buy the RX-8.
But this is not unusual in the automotive industry. The original Datsun 240Z comes readily to mind. Every subsequent version further perverted the original simple elegance. Marketeers will always recommend slapping on some more/different plastic and calling it 'new and improved.'
On the plus side, most of the more popular options are now included in the base.
No matter to me; I'll have my '8 for a good long time.
But this is not unusual in the automotive industry. The original Datsun 240Z comes readily to mind. Every subsequent version further perverted the original simple elegance. Marketeers will always recommend slapping on some more/different plastic and calling it 'new and improved.'
On the plus side, most of the more popular options are now included in the base.
No matter to me; I'll have my '8 for a good long time.
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