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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Zoom Zoom... Not.. RX-8 spotted at 1/4 strip

I was up the 1/4 drag strip this past Weds in NH and there was a guy there with a Dark Silver RX-8. He looked to be in his mid 20's and I asked him how it likes it, he like it he said but expected more power. The car had 2200 miles on it and was a 6MT. He said he races his other cars (350HP Eclipse GST and a Crotchrocket) so he is no stranger to the 1/4. All day in about 5 runs he could not break 15.4@96mph, on average he was running 15.5 around 95mph.

He said he was pretty dissapointed and thought he would be running consistant high 14's at least. He said he's going to the dealership for answers this weekend.
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 12:52 PM
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This post sounds vaguely familiar...

LIKE EVERY OTHER FREAKING POST THAT'S MADE BY <insert other car here> OWNERS.

Please, we've heard it all... let's wait for a resolution or answer first... then we can talk about how slow the RX-8 is in comparison to <insert car here> afterwards, because those people still don't get the point.

I do however, look forward to an answer from Mazda about this.
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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I'd like to see that dealer trip "so i was drag-racing my car, and ..."

Also, this is from C&D
the RX-8 scooted to 60 mph in 5.9 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 96 mph
Odd that he's almost a second slower, but with the same trap speed...

Maybe he just loves his clutch too much? :D

ps: I think all the fear is a bit reactionary, just thought the comparison was interesting...
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Or maybe it's just another troll....

Either way...
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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I am not trying to put it the rx down at all, just telling my 1st experience seeing one at the track. Also the one that got a 5.9 0-60 was an overseas pre-production model which didn't even feature a full production interior.

I'm sure Mazda will have a solution to this eventually, there is no way they will let this be another Miata case..
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Where exactly in NH was this? Wouldn't mind going to see this guy if he is a regular visitor to the 1/4m strip?
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by Blue 350z
I am not trying to put it the rx down at all, just telling my 1st experience seeing one at the track. Also the one that got a 5.9 0-60 was an overseas pre-production model which didn't even feature a full production interior.

I'm sure Mazda will have a solution to this eventually, there is no way they will let this be another Miata case..
Are you on something?

Hell, I can hand time my car and get ~6 seconds to 60. The car that was tested with those numbers was... guess what.... fully furnished as opposed to your idea of the car not having a full interior?

There's a reason why you have a 350Z and were sitting at a drag strip. The RX-8 buyers that know what the car is about won't be there.... they'll be wringing out that 6 speed thru some twisties.

That 5.9s dash to 60 is right on target with the current car. It's been tested numerous times from Road and Track, Car and Driver, and a lot of other places that used a similarly set up car. Hell, the production models in Europe that get 231 horses still dash to 62 in 6.3 seconds... so add 20 ponies and reduce the speed by 2 mph and you have your deficit.

Please take your misinformation back to the 350Z boards, as I'm sure it's appreciated there. We are all pretty well read on the cars and passing off your misinformation is rather an insult, just like if we came to the 350Z forums and started posting information about how somebody ran a 15 second quarter.
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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I thought the forum was to discuss things openly not to bash someone if they post something that has already been talked about
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by mikeb
I thought the forum was to discuss things openly not to bash someone if they post something that has already been talked about
maybe people are just tired of everyone fear-mongering about the dyno issue? (Especially people who have no apparent interest in ownership, or have been putting the car down in past posts...)



Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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1/4

My dealer sponsors race days at the local track. One of the dealership's gear heads (works in service) took the owner's RX8 demo to the strip and got a 14.9 1/4 (with the time slip to prove it) from a totally showroom RX8 GT with just one run.

The guy who said he got mid 15s can't be that good of a driver.
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Hercules
Are you on something?

Hell, I can hand time my car and get ~6 seconds to 60. The car that was tested with those numbers was... guess what.... fully furnished as opposed to your idea of the car not having a full interior?

There's a reason why you have a 350Z and were sitting at a drag strip. The RX-8 buyers that know what the car is about won't be there.... they'll be wringing out that 6 speed thru some twisties.

That 5.9s dash to 60 is right on target with the current car. It's been tested numerous times from Road and Track, Car and Driver, and a lot of other places that used a similarly set up car. Hell, the production models in Europe that get 231 horses still dash to 62 in 6.3 seconds... so add 20 ponies and reduce the speed by 2 mph and you have your deficit.

Please take your misinformation back to the 350Z boards, as I'm sure it's appreciated there. We are all pretty well read on the cars and passing off your misinformation is rather an insult, just like if we came to the 350Z forums and started posting information about how somebody ran a 15 second quarter.
How exactly did you hand-time your 0-60 and how accurate is it?
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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Hercules, I know you're a mod and all but damn you seem to have switched gears completely since the car has come out. When I first started coming here you seemed to be level headed, but now you act like the biggest troll here. Nearly every post I see from you lately is full of passive agressive behavior, and sometimes it's not so passive.

No I don't own the car, but I came here because I was curious about the car and my fiance is in the market for a new sporty car. I get the feeling from you that you would only want RX-8 owners in here so you can just live in ignorance of what the rest of the car community is thinking about the RX-8.


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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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Isn't there something to be said for the .1-.5s you can get from a 8500 rpm dump on a pre-laid strip of rubber? The capability is there, and always has been I say
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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A Slight Tangent...

Aha! I never understood the derivation of 'trolling' as applied to internet forums but now I do. In my version of english the word to fish in the manner described above is 'trawling' and a 'troll' is a Norwegian mythical small creature. It all makes sense now.
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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I think you're thinking Gnome, I believe trolls are thought to be rather large :p
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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Re: A Slight Tangent...

Originally posted by Lensman
Aha! I never understood the derivation of 'trolling' as applied to internet forums but now I do. In my version of english the word to fish in the manner described above is 'trawling' and a 'troll' is a Norwegian mythical small creature. It all makes sense now.
Glad to help!
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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well who knows maybe thos enorwegian trolls are on the small side:D really though no tot take this too far off topic, ive always heard those fishing boats called "trawlers" also and a troll is a rather large not very intelligent and belligerrent kind of creature. remember the large creature in LOTR Two Towers in the battle in the mines of moria that was brought in in chains and had a tree for a club? that was a Troll i believe.
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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Not sure about C&D. But please please do not trust Road & Track's times. Theirs are always faster than the general mags and real life. they tested the S2000 at 4.8 to 60mph! So if you believe R&T's time of the rx-8 is 5.9 then you'd believe the s2k's sub 5second too then eh?
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by delhi
Not sure about C&D. But please please do not trust Road & Track's times. Theirs are always faster than the general mags and real life. they tested the S2000 at 4.8 to 60mph! So if you believe R&T's time of the rx-8 is 5.9 then you'd believe the s2k's sub 5second too then eh?
R&T never got 4.8 for the s2000
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C&D had the S2k's stock time as 5.8...

(and 14.4 at 98)


R&T said
5.5
and 14.1 at 99.6

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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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R&T is dumb, they contradict themselves.

here they compare the s2000 with the RSX and it got 4.9:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=5


but here, they test a supercharged s2000 and say "In the 0-to-60-mph sprint the supercharger pared but a tenth of a second — 5.5 sec. versus 5.4 — off our stock benchmark"

so even tho they didnt get 4.8, they still dont have much crediability, cant even get their story straight.
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
I think you're thinking Gnome, I believe trolls are thought to be rather large :p
It appears we're both right...!

apologies for taking the thread off the beaten track...

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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by tribal azn2
R&T is dumb, they contradict themselves.

here they compare the s2000 with the RSX and it got 4.9:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=5


but here, they test a supercharged s2000 and say "In the 0-to-60-mph sprint the supercharger pared but a tenth of a second — 5.5 sec. versus 5.4 — off our stock benchmark"

so even tho they didnt get 4.8, they still dont have much crediability, cant even get their story straight.
I find it odd that the NSX and s2k got the same exact acceleration and braking figures... typo maybe?
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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please dont bann me for this but
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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"am not trying to put it the rx down at all, just telling my 1st experience seeing one at the track. Also the one that got a 5.9 0-60 was an overseas pre-production model which didn't even feature a full production interior.

I'm sure Mazda will have a solution to this eventually, there is no way they will let this be another Miata case.."

Yea, whatever....nice try. Damning us with the old "I'm not trying to put you guys down, but.......yada, yada, yada.

Sounds like the guy has RX8 envy in a big way. The RX8 is fast (within a tenth or two of the 350Z, not enough to notice), is made better, rides better, has better assembly, more room, is more comfortable.....and costs less than his car.


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