Are you turning your engine off correctly!?!? I'm sure 95% of you are not!
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Are you turning your engine off correctly!?!? I'm sure 95% of you are not!
Did you know:
When you shut off your rotary engine, you are recommended to rev your engine slightly for a second (up to about 3k) and while up there turn you engine off and let it naturally stop spinning. (Warm engine)
Why:
The dealer as well as Mazda recommend doing this every time you turn you engine off to keep it well lubed. Why? Since the rotary engine it so compact, the passages are much smaller and harder for the oil to get "up in there". It makes a difference.
When you shut off your rotary engine, you are recommended to rev your engine slightly for a second (up to about 3k) and while up there turn you engine off and let it naturally stop spinning. (Warm engine)
Why:
The dealer as well as Mazda recommend doing this every time you turn you engine off to keep it well lubed. Why? Since the rotary engine it so compact, the passages are much smaller and harder for the oil to get "up in there". It makes a difference.
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Yeah, I do that.
Let's the wife know I'm home.
It's also a preventative for flooding if the engine is cold (however the recommended time is more like 10 secs at 3Krpm).
Let's the wife know I'm home.
It's also a preventative for flooding if the engine is cold (however the recommended time is more like 10 secs at 3Krpm).
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Originally Posted by jryeater
Did you know:
When you shut off your rotary engine, you are recommended to rev your engine slightly for a second (up to about 3k) and while up there turn you engine off and let it naturally stop spinning.
Why:
The dealer as well as Mazda recommend doing this every time you turn you engine off to keep it well lubed. Why? Since the rotary engine it so compact, the passages are much smaller and harder for the oil to get "up in there". It makes a difference.
When you shut off your rotary engine, you are recommended to rev your engine slightly for a second (up to about 3k) and while up there turn you engine off and let it naturally stop spinning.
Why:
The dealer as well as Mazda recommend doing this every time you turn you engine off to keep it well lubed. Why? Since the rotary engine it so compact, the passages are much smaller and harder for the oil to get "up in there". It makes a difference.
exactly how long do you keep it at 3RPM?
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Originally Posted by jryeater
Why:
The dealer as well as Mazda recommend doing this every time you turn you engine off to keep it well lubed. Why? Since the rotary engine it so compact, the passages are much smaller and harder for the oil to get "up in there". It makes a difference.
The dealer as well as Mazda recommend doing this every time you turn you engine off to keep it well lubed. Why? Since the rotary engine it so compact, the passages are much smaller and harder for the oil to get "up in there". It makes a difference.
Up in where? We don't have a valve train to lube. We don't have nearly the oil passages a piston engine does and we run more oil pressure than most do. That is hardly a system that can't get oil around. Oil moves "up" in the engine a grand total of about 15" from the bottom of the pan to the top of the oil filter which is the highest oil location in the engine. Most of the oil goes in the eccentric shaft and drains through the rotors. From the bottom of the pan to the eccentric shaft is only 8". The oil passages are large enough that an adequate supply of oil is sent through the engine to actually dissipate nearly as much heat as the coolant system. No one recommends to rev the engine because the passages are too small and it helps lubrication. There is always oil flow through the engine when it's running. When you turn it off, it all drains down. It doesn't matter how high you revved it before you shut it off.
This is downright wrong information. The reason why people rev their engine up before they shut it off is because when you shut the engine off at 3K, it gives more revoltions of the engine with no fuel to clear out any excess fuel from the chamber. This theoretically means that it is less likely to flood next time it is started since less fuel will be leftover in the chamber.
Revving it up before shutdown is very bad for a turbo car as you don't want to add heat to the turbo as it could lead to easier oil coking in the turbo after shutdown.
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Ummm, yeah...what RG said. Actually, most of us are aware of this...from way back.
That's what you do if you MUST turn off a cold rotary, not just because.
That's what you do if you MUST turn off a cold rotary, not just because.
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Yes, The dealer told me this would prevent plug fouling.. by spining out all the left over gas? and also prevent flooding. Whenever I turn off the car I just rev. my car up to 3-3.5k let off the gas and turn the car off.
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My '05 has never flooded, and I never rev it before shutdown. IMO, it's a waste of fuel. I realize some '04 models have flooding issues, and if it works to prevent that, then that is so. But if you're not having any problems, then leave it alone, no revving needed.
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I love these random, mystical "stats". 95% of us don't shut down properly? What data supports THAT deduction?
It's like the infamous "according to a recent survey" statement. WHAT SURVEYS? Who are the people that take these survey's? How come I've never seen or taken one.
I think people make up these "surveys" and fabricated "stats" to lend credibilty to something that otherwise has none.
85% of the people who have read this thread initially asked, "WTF?"
182% of survey takers live in mud flats and drink Yak milk..
It's like the infamous "according to a recent survey" statement. WHAT SURVEYS? Who are the people that take these survey's? How come I've never seen or taken one.
I think people make up these "surveys" and fabricated "stats" to lend credibilty to something that otherwise has none.
85% of the people who have read this thread initially asked, "WTF?"
182% of survey takers live in mud flats and drink Yak milk..
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Originally Posted by jryeater
Did you know:
When you shut off your rotary engine, you are recommended to rev your engine slightly for a second (up to about 3k) and while up there turn you engine off and let it naturally stop spinning. (Warm engine)
Why:
The dealer as well as Mazda recommend doing this every time you turn you engine off to keep it well lubed. Why? Since the rotary engine it so compact, the passages are much smaller and harder for the oil to get "up in there". It makes a difference.
When you shut off your rotary engine, you are recommended to rev your engine slightly for a second (up to about 3k) and while up there turn you engine off and let it naturally stop spinning. (Warm engine)
Why:
The dealer as well as Mazda recommend doing this every time you turn you engine off to keep it well lubed. Why? Since the rotary engine it so compact, the passages are much smaller and harder for the oil to get "up in there". It makes a difference.
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Both dealerships I was dealing with told me this b4 I bought, but neither really had any idea why. I assumed it was a flooding issue since I read plenty about it here. But it gave me an excuse to rev every shut down, so it was ok w/me.
mmmmmm . . . yak milk.
mmmmmm . . . yak milk.
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If you read that handy little booklet on how to operate you vehicle, the MAN-U-AL (I know its a foriegn word for some) it states that one should rev to 3.5k for 1 second and shut off to let excess fuel and emmisions spin out of the engine via enursia, in order to prevent flooding upon next start up. This is also a preventative measure when your engine has not been run long enough to reach proper operating temps.
Its all there in your manual... if this is news to you, you obviously need to go read it.
Its all there in your manual... if this is news to you, you obviously need to go read it.
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Originally Posted by Razpewton
I love these random, mystical "stats". 95% of us don't shut down properly? What data supports THAT deduction?
It's like the infamous "according to a recent survey" statement. WHAT SURVEYS? Who are the people that take these survey's? How come I've never seen or taken one.
I think people make up these "surveys" and fabricated "stats" to lend credibilty to something that otherwise has none.
85% of the people who have read this thread initially asked, "WTF?"
182% of survey takers live in mud flats and drink Yak milk..
It's like the infamous "according to a recent survey" statement. WHAT SURVEYS? Who are the people that take these survey's? How come I've never seen or taken one.
I think people make up these "surveys" and fabricated "stats" to lend credibilty to something that otherwise has none.
85% of the people who have read this thread initially asked, "WTF?"
182% of survey takers live in mud flats and drink Yak milk..
ps - Source: National Geographic
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