Worse MPG for All - Now everyone can be miserable...
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Worse MPG for All - Now everyone can be miserable...
New EPA testing
The EPA has finally admitted that the testing methods are wrong. Numerous reports on the news today about the EPA revising their test to reflect real-world mileage.
56mpg Prius 'estimates' worked out to about 36 in real life.
We know about our beloved RX8 test results. I get 13mpg city, NOT the 18mpg on the sticker.
Now everyone will realize that they get crappy mileage, and I won't feel so bad anymore.
The EPA has finally admitted that the testing methods are wrong. Numerous reports on the news today about the EPA revising their test to reflect real-world mileage.
56mpg Prius 'estimates' worked out to about 36 in real life.
We know about our beloved RX8 test results. I get 13mpg city, NOT the 18mpg on the sticker.
Now everyone will realize that they get crappy mileage, and I won't feel so bad anymore.
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my worst fuel economy was 16.7, and my best was 23.4, and i average 18.47 (i have a spread sheet set up to track and analyze it...habit i picked up from my dad). so, my real world experiences have been pretty close to the original epa predictions
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This thread is not for mileage bitching - I've done enough of that.
This is just vindication that the EPA are a bunch of liars and it's all a conspiracy by the government to make us think that we are getting good milage, all the while we have to spend more to line the pockets of the fat-cat oil executives, who spend it all on private jets to the cayman islands, where they hide thier profits in suitcases full of money in private banks, and then rent big luxury boats to go fishing for big game fish, and then go to town where they pick up strippers and pounds of blow, and then take helicopters to thier ski chalet in Austria, where they do the blow and eat endangered species for dinner, served by scantily-clad female french chefs, who moonlight as strippers, and then are entertained by Elvis while they laugh at us poor Americans getting 5mpg in our Ford Escorts....
Damn oil companies.
This is just vindication that the EPA are a bunch of liars and it's all a conspiracy by the government to make us think that we are getting good milage, all the while we have to spend more to line the pockets of the fat-cat oil executives, who spend it all on private jets to the cayman islands, where they hide thier profits in suitcases full of money in private banks, and then rent big luxury boats to go fishing for big game fish, and then go to town where they pick up strippers and pounds of blow, and then take helicopters to thier ski chalet in Austria, where they do the blow and eat endangered species for dinner, served by scantily-clad female french chefs, who moonlight as strippers, and then are entertained by Elvis while they laugh at us poor Americans getting 5mpg in our Ford Escorts....
Damn oil companies.
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Wow, mega-rant!
You can sum up that last post simply by reading straight down from 'cayman islands' on my screen:
... cayman islands ... pick up strippers ... scantily clad female chefs ...
You can sum up that last post simply by reading straight down from 'cayman islands' on my screen:
... cayman islands ... pick up strippers ... scantily clad female chefs ...
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Originally Posted by beefyjoe
and eat endangered species for dinner.
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Originally Posted by nranly
I thought they ate extinct species for dinner. They have the endangered species for breakfast.
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how do you do that?
Next to where Elvis lives.
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I wonder how this will affect the CAFE law. Now that everyones estimated mpg is going to go way down, will the government still force auto companies to comply with CAFE?
...the plot thickens
...the plot thickens
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every car I've ever owned I got better milage than the sticker..... the rx8 is the only one that's been right on the money.
my civic got 10 mpg higher than the sticker... i routinely got low 50's with it. sticker was 38/44 mpg.
my civic got 10 mpg higher than the sticker... i routinely got low 50's with it. sticker was 38/44 mpg.
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Originally Posted by beefyjoe
This is just vindication that the EPA are a bunch of liars and it's all a conspiracy by the government to make us think that we are getting good milage...
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Glyphon: Got a blank copy of that spreadhsheet you wanna email me?
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I wonder how this will affect the CAFE law. Now that everyones estimated mpg is going to go way down, will the government still force auto companies to comply with CAFE?
...the plot thickens
...the plot thickens
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
Glyphon: Got a blank copy of that spreadhsheet you wanna email me?
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whoa Glyphon, you're one post away from 1,000!!! Make it count.
Ha, pointing that out to you should be worth something right??
Ha, pointing that out to you should be worth something right??
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Originally Posted by Aseras
every car I've ever owned I got better milage than the sticker..... the rx8 is the only one that's been right on the money.
my civic got 10 mpg higher than the sticker... i routinely got low 50's with it. sticker was 38/44 mpg.
my civic got 10 mpg higher than the sticker... i routinely got low 50's with it. sticker was 38/44 mpg.
In 20 years of driving I NEVER achived HIGHER milage than the sticker.
You're doing something wrong with the math, or you only drive downhill.
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6.5mpg at the dragon (i was also on tires 2% smaller than stock so really 6.37mpg)
9mpg in the winter on solely city driving (granted i warm the car up)
12mpg summertime city driving
first tank on the highway 17-18mpg
second tank on an extended trip 22-24.5mpg
my 8 is wierd.
9mpg in the winter on solely city driving (granted i warm the car up)
12mpg summertime city driving
first tank on the highway 17-18mpg
second tank on an extended trip 22-24.5mpg
my 8 is wierd.
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Originally Posted by Glyphon
or they were just using an outdated methodology that was formulated 30 years ago, and doesn't/didn't take into effect modern day driving habits/situtations.
I think they are using us a guniea pigs.
We buy the oil, we burn the oil in our cars, we cause global warming, we use more electricity for our airconditioners (because we are staying inside more often cause it's too expensive to drive around), and we send the cash bloated oil company CEO's who go on lavish vacations to the Maldive Islands, where they have parties with strippers dressed as Elvis, doing blow, and eating saber-toothed tiger steaks.
It all fits...
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Originally Posted by MazdaspeedFeras
6.5mpg at the dragon (i was also on tires 2% smaller than stock so really 6.37mpg)
9mpg in the winter on solely city driving (granted i warm the car up)
12mpg summertime city driving
first tank on the highway 17-18mpg
second tank on an extended trip 22-24.5mpg
my 8 is wierd.
9mpg in the winter on solely city driving (granted i warm the car up)
12mpg summertime city driving
first tank on the highway 17-18mpg
second tank on an extended trip 22-24.5mpg
my 8 is wierd.
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Originally Posted by beefyjoe
No, I think its a big fat conspiracy.
I think they are using us a guniea pigs.
We buy the oil, we burn the oil in our cars, we cause global warming, we use more electricity for our airconditioners (because we are staying inside more often cause it's too expensive to drive around), and we send the cash bloated oil company CEO's who go on lavish vacations to the Maldive Islands, where they have parties with strippers dressed as Elvis, doing blow, and eating saber-toothed tiger steaks.
It all fits...
I think they are using us a guniea pigs.
We buy the oil, we burn the oil in our cars, we cause global warming, we use more electricity for our airconditioners (because we are staying inside more often cause it's too expensive to drive around), and we send the cash bloated oil company CEO's who go on lavish vacations to the Maldive Islands, where they have parties with strippers dressed as Elvis, doing blow, and eating saber-toothed tiger steaks.
It all fits...