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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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Exclamation What is wrong with my 8!

Here are her symtoms

1) takes long to start does
2) When driving her she will fall below the regular idle and seem like its about to stall
3) when giving her aggressive acceleration a weird gargling noise comes from the intake as it may seem which is aem
4) when i start her up i hear fluid moving around

any doctor mazda help me out?
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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need more info on the car
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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dude i suggest you do an advance search on Google and restrict your search only to this website and search your symptoms.

or else prepare to get flamed..
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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1) takes long to start does
This could be compression loss, coil failure, plug failure, plug wire failure, weak battery, or weak starter. Without more information about the history of your car, it's hard to say it's one vs the other.

2) When driving her she will fall below the regular idle and seem like its about to stall

This could be compression loss, coil failure, plug failure, plug wire failure, alternator failure, bad fuel, or clogged fuel filter. Without more information about the history of your car, it's hard to say it's one vs the other.

3) when giving her aggressive acceleration a weird gargling noise comes from the intake as it may seem which is aem

Probably your AEM intake. Hard to be sure with that description though.

4) when i start her up i hear fluid moving around
This is your heater core. It is normal for the RX-8. You can pay the dealer a lot of money to make it go away, but there is no functional change in anything, so just ignore it or get used to it.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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Thanks riwwp i got new plugs and coils ordered in hopefully that should solve the main 2 the other with the aem intake the car was driven in st petes fl since 04 and never has seen harsh weather it is now in newfoundland canada where ever night it stays in a garage i have not yet gotten a tune up and it has been roughly 25k miles since its last service
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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1) is normal
2) weak battery, bad ground or neutral switch
3) normal, you could burp your RX 8 water system or tey the ferrel from Mazmart
4) sounds like you need to burp her
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Thanks riwwp i got new plugs and coils ordered in hopefully that should solve the main 2 the other with the aem intake the car was driven in st petes fl since 04 and never has seen harsh weather it is now in newfoundland canada where ever night it stays in a garage i have not yet gotten a tune up and it has been roughly 25k miles since its last service
if new plugs and coils dont help, time for a compression test.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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Mine had the weak starting and low idle problems. compression test resulted in new motor paid for by mazda. take it to the dealership and run a compression test.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:43 AM
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sounds like spark plugs and coils need to be replaced
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:44 AM
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These are just few of the many problems with the rx8, just sell it!!! I just did and got myself a 09 mazdaspeed 3 and it feels great to be able to start the car and shut it off with out warming up or high rev shutoff!!! Dont get me wtong i enjoy my 8 but the headaches out weighed the joy!!
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:49 AM
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oh not so many headaches, u just need to take some time to give it some TLC. But yea if you cannot be bothered and just want a normal conventional car well then the rx8 not for you.

GCRX-8 - we call those MPS3's here in Australia. Test drove one, very different ride to the 8. How do you find it?
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GCRX-8
These are just few of the many problems with the rx8, just sell it!!! I just did and got myself a 09 mazdaspeed 3 and it feels great to be able to start the car and shut it off with out warming up or high rev shutoff!!! Dont get me wtong i enjoy my 8 but the headaches out weighed the joy!!
If you are no longer an owner, and have nothing but bad advice to give, please remove yourself from the boards.


99% of the problems and headaches of the RX-8 are owner caused.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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Dude ... just some friendly forum advice ...
This post likely would have been more appropriate here in the Trouble Shooting area
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/

Or in the Regional area, Canada, where you would likely find someone that is living in your operating conditions or even on the rock.
https://www.rx8club.com/canada-forum-35/

Just say'n
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by GCRX-8
These are just few of the many problems with the rx8, just sell it!!! I just did and got myself a 09 mazdaspeed 3 and it feels great to be able to start the car and shut it off with out warming up or high rev shutoff!!! Dont get me wtong i enjoy my 8 but the headaches out weighed the joy!!
it has been talked many times that flooding is due to weak coils, first version of starter motor, and old PCM. after they upgraded the starter and PCM, its less likely to happen.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Yes solves all the idle problems but still the when accelerting very weird gurgling noise
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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first and foremost it wasnt bad advise, it was personal opinion, learn the difference. second i had the rx8 for 4 years, stealership maintained, the issues was one after another, but i never said i didnt enjoy the 8, it handled better than any car i have ever driven. With the bad economy and slow work, i couldnt keep up with the issues the 8 brought, I already had to engine replacements, upgraded everything coils, starter, wires, mounts countless flashes, but mpg was the main reason i had to part with it. Im sure the 2nd gen model is alot better.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MissyK
oh not so many headaches, u just need to take some time to give it some TLC. But yea if you cannot be bothered and just want a normal conventional car well then the rx8 not for you.

GCRX-8 - we call those MPS3's here in Australia. Test drove one, very different ride to the 8. How do you find it?
i really enjoy the speed 3, tons of power and im still averaging 23.9 mpg compared to 14-15 mpg with the 8, but god i miss the handling of the 8 and the smooth acceleration at 8500 rpms. The two gripes i got with the speed is that the engine's power pretty much completely drops a 6000 rpm and the shifter.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 05:10 AM
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I hear fluid moving around too, and also hear that weird "gurgling noise" when accelerating hard. I have a 2004 RX8 GT Auto with stock intake. I am getting the engine replaced today under warranty (warm start problem due to low compression), so hopefully that gurgling noise will disappear.

By the way, I highly recommend getting a compression test done before the extended warranty expires (160,000 KM's / 8 years). The problem with mine was at first it was hard to start when warm (took about 4 secs or so to start), but it got progressively worst. After 6 months, the engine wouldn't start at all when warm, and would have to wait 20 mins before it would start up. So I had the local Mazda dealership do a compression test at a cost of $89. The results were low compression on the second rotor. Since I have about 153,500 KM's, the engine replacement is being fully covered under warranty. I just barely dodged a major expense.


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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 06:02 AM
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Lbrown: if you're still hearing the gurgling, it's probably coolant. Burp your system and it will mostly go away. It's pretty normal.

GCRX8: with 7 whole posts, telling someone to give up is bad advice. Glad you found a car you like, but it sounds like you didn't do your research first and didn't research the car you bought very well.

Van: same advise I gave Lbrown. Since you're about to get a new engine, make sure to mention the gurgling to the dealership. It should be fixed since they'll be flushing the coolant anyway.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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fuztupnz: That seems to make sense. My coolant light will occasionally come on as well when accelerating hard, then turn off when eased off. At first I thought it just might be a flakey coolant sensor as my coolant levels were ok, but now I wonder if was due to trapped air-bubbles and just needed a burp?
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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How do i burp my 8
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:33 PM
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I had the exact same problem and it was just air in the coolant lines...

I got rid of it by parking it on an incline, taking the cap off of the coolant tank, then running it for a short bit, adding more coolant when I needed too... That took care of the sound...

Also check and be sure your car isn't leaking any coolant into the ground... When mine got air in the lines I had a tiny hole in my upper radiator hose.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Take it from the guy whose 8 is at the dealer waiting for the new motor.

Try your plugs, coils, etc. Get the battery tested, sounds like the cells are failing.

If not go to mazda for a check up aka compression check.

Mine felt like it wouldnt start she took like 7 seconds before she'd finally catch and idled rough. Then it happen to flood one day, had her towed and she kept doing the same thing for dealer. they got a compression check.

I have an 04 as well. Engine warranty is up to 2012 and 100k miles. So under those you should be good, however, remove the intake just so they don't say that's the issue
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