ugg, 1st Speeding ticket in my RX8
01-09-2008, 01:53 PM
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Guys. It's NOT the justice system. It's the legal system. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you quit whining and learn to evade cops.
It's not tough to lose a cop tailing you. I've been tailed before, and first thing I did was turn into a residential neighborhood (remember your signal lights). 20mph speed limit, so I went at 18mph. Cop could say nothing.
Now, one thing about residential areas is the number of STOP signs. So you STOP (not rolling stop, you STOP), and then you go as soon as traffic is clear (You could stop and go in less than half a second). Cop can't just beat the stop sign for nothing, so he'd have to stop too. Repeat process. Sooner or later, the cop will lose sight of you. My area (Purdue University) has a road called Martin Jischke Rd, and its quite a twisty. Few runs through the residential/dorm area and cop can't keep up.
On the highways, the way I get my 114mph record is to speed through straights, and lift off the throttle a mile or so before a bridge or blind spot. Cops like to hide in these places. By the time I cross the blind spot, I'm always at or below the speed limit. Again, nothing the cop can do.
Once I lose sight of the cop, I increase speeds again, up to 100mph. Rinse and repeat.
Drive sensibly. As I do all of the above, I keep safe at the same time. If there are kids running about, I don't just floor it. If there's heavy traffic on the freeway, I don't squeeze in between cars either. Drive smart.
It's not tough to lose a cop tailing you. I've been tailed before, and first thing I did was turn into a residential neighborhood (remember your signal lights). 20mph speed limit, so I went at 18mph. Cop could say nothing.
Now, one thing about residential areas is the number of STOP signs. So you STOP (not rolling stop, you STOP), and then you go as soon as traffic is clear (You could stop and go in less than half a second). Cop can't just beat the stop sign for nothing, so he'd have to stop too. Repeat process. Sooner or later, the cop will lose sight of you. My area (Purdue University) has a road called Martin Jischke Rd, and its quite a twisty. Few runs through the residential/dorm area and cop can't keep up.
On the highways, the way I get my 114mph record is to speed through straights, and lift off the throttle a mile or so before a bridge or blind spot. Cops like to hide in these places. By the time I cross the blind spot, I'm always at or below the speed limit. Again, nothing the cop can do.
Once I lose sight of the cop, I increase speeds again, up to 100mph. Rinse and repeat.
Drive sensibly. As I do all of the above, I keep safe at the same time. If there are kids running about, I don't just floor it. If there's heavy traffic on the freeway, I don't squeeze in between cars either. Drive smart.
01-09-2008, 02:12 PM
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... it's just not in my 8.
01-09-2008, 02:36 PM
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20 mph over here in iowa is an immediate loss of license... it can be pulled on the spot or at your court date... up to the officer... along with 3 moving violations in one year... it could even be running a stop sign 3 times and you loose your license for 3 months.... 6 tickets in 2 years ... you loose your license for 1 year ... seems pretty strict to me ... and remember.. fines double in construction zones 
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rofl go ahead and make all the jokes you want about my age. you know that all i have have been saying in my posts is true to a certain degree...
just look at yourself, your going to court and i congratulate you on doing so whether it was because of my advice or not. the point is...it WAS my advice and its something i did recommend doing.
gasp! i'm not so crazy as you think
i guess the "little foolish, youngin 18 year old" got something right huh big poppa?
just look at yourself, your going to court and i congratulate you on doing so whether it was because of my advice or not. the point is...it WAS my advice and its something i did recommend doing.
gasp! i'm not so crazy as you think
i guess the "little foolish, youngin 18 year old" got something right huh big poppa?
You'll appreciate soon enough police are a reflection of our society, most are decent, (some are not) and someone has to enforce the law. At the end of the day the vast majority will help you out when you need it the most....
01-09-2008, 05:14 PM
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Just remember those guys you hate so much risk their lives to keep the criminals in check. And one other thing Mike, don't think you're better than someone else, because of what your parents have. Just be happy that you were blessed and happened to be born in that particular family. I'm not trying to pick on you, but your attitude in life affects how your life turns out. Anyway I'm getting off track.
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Just remember those guys you hate so much risk their lives to keep the criminals in check. And one other thing Mike, don't think you're better than someone else, because of what your parents have. Just be happy that you were blessed and happened to be born in that particular family. I'm not trying to pick on you, but your attitude in life affects how your life turns out. Anyway I'm getting off track.
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I got a 77 in a 35, cop dropped it to 45 in a 35 so he didn't have to go to court. That was right after I slowed down from over 100. My yellow rx8 attracts more cops than a donut shop. I'm sure I could have been doing the same thing in my truck and they wouldn't of noticed.
Got a radar detector coming in the mail now.
Got a radar detector coming in the mail now.
01-09-2008, 07:49 PM
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So let me briefly say a thing or two...
i hate cops with a strong passion.
IMHO, they are all power-tripping, egotistical, corrupt bastards. if they are in a town or neighborhood with almost a zero crime rate, they will get their ***** and giggles from pulling people over and giving them tickets for the most outrageous of reasons. some of the tickets they give out really makes you think..."is this really justice? or is giving a ticket for going 5 mph over the speed limit really such a noble act for the interest of public safety on the part of the officer" police don't care about justice...their only interest is to give as many tickets as they can when nothing is going on so that they can exceed their quota for the month and get a promotion!
in my rx-8, i have received more than my fair share of tickets.
i have received SEVEN tickets in my rx-8 (and one driving my mini van) in less than a one year period!
now i'll admit...my first 2 or 3 tickets in my rx-8 was due to me being a reckless bastard, and i have had to endure through many sessions of traffic school early on in my 8's life. after those first couple of tickets however, it was just RIDICULOUS for why i was being pulled over and written a citation for. i am 18 years old, a studly looking young man who always has a girl or two in his nice sports car. if i was an officer, i would immediately be thinking "hmm...when i was a kid i was a poor f*ck and my parents couldnt even get a station wagon...i feel bad and inferior so now i'm going to take out of bitterness on this innocent kid" and i too would be tailing my *** for SEVERAL MILES just waiting for me to mess up in the least bit and get smacked with a citation. after all, i am in the gestapo league of corrupt traffic officers of america!
at the end of the day...justice all sums up to what kind of promotion is in store for the prosecuting officer
i hate cops with a strong passion.
IMHO, they are all power-tripping, egotistical, corrupt bastards. if they are in a town or neighborhood with almost a zero crime rate, they will get their ***** and giggles from pulling people over and giving them tickets for the most outrageous of reasons. some of the tickets they give out really makes you think..."is this really justice? or is giving a ticket for going 5 mph over the speed limit really such a noble act for the interest of public safety on the part of the officer" police don't care about justice...their only interest is to give as many tickets as they can when nothing is going on so that they can exceed their quota for the month and get a promotion!
in my rx-8, i have received more than my fair share of tickets.
i have received SEVEN tickets in my rx-8 (and one driving my mini van) in less than a one year period!
now i'll admit...my first 2 or 3 tickets in my rx-8 was due to me being a reckless bastard, and i have had to endure through many sessions of traffic school early on in my 8's life. after those first couple of tickets however, it was just RIDICULOUS for why i was being pulled over and written a citation for. i am 18 years old, a studly looking young man who always has a girl or two in his nice sports car. if i was an officer, i would immediately be thinking "hmm...when i was a kid i was a poor f*ck and my parents couldnt even get a station wagon...i feel bad and inferior so now i'm going to take out of bitterness on this innocent kid" and i too would be tailing my *** for SEVERAL MILES just waiting for me to mess up in the least bit and get smacked with a citation. after all, i am in the gestapo league of corrupt traffic officers of america!
at the end of the day...justice all sums up to what kind of promotion is in store for the prosecuting officer
Cops don't just pick random, innocent people over and over again to go after
01-10-2008, 12:39 AM
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actually since you brought it up, there have been a couple occassions when i had been pulled over and by chance had some "substances" in my car that could really have affected me badly if i were to get caught with it.
the officers weren't satisfied with just giving me a traffic ticket, and had the nerve to ask me if they can search through my car.
hmmm...now why would a police offer think that I would have anything illegal on me? could it be because im a young male that looks like he's got it made?
fortunately for me, i know my rights and i politely told the officer that he is free to move along now and get the f*ck back to his vehicle since he was done writing me up
the officers weren't satisfied with just giving me a traffic ticket, and had the nerve to ask me if they can search through my car.
hmmm...now why would a police offer think that I would have anything illegal on me? could it be because im a young male that looks like he's got it made?
fortunately for me, i know my rights and i politely told the officer that he is free to move along now and get the f*ck back to his vehicle since he was done writing me up
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why is that so hard to believe!?!?
all the officer wants to do is fill his quota for the month and get promotions/a raise! corrupt bastards...
he doesn't care if that teenage boy is a 4.0 student with no previous criminal record and does volunteer work at his local church 5 times a week. all the cop cares about is "hey! i'll just follow this kid around until he messes up because out of all people he's the most likely to mess up and if he tries to fight it in court...haha! no judge is going to side with a 17 year old kid when he says he did nothing wrong"
don't get me wrong, there are good officers out there that have a real sense of justice. but the majority of those f*cks are the ones that i have been describing now for several posts...
01-10-2008, 12:46 AM
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actually since you brought it up, there have been a couple occassions when i had been pulled over and by chance had some "substances" in my car that could really have affected me badly if i were to get caught with it.
the officers weren't satisfied with just giving me a traffic ticket, and had the nerve to ask me if they can search through my car.
hmmm...now why would a police offer think that I would have anything illegal on me? could it be because im a young male that looks like he's got it made?
fortunately for me, i know my rights and i politely told the officer that he is free to move along now and get the f*ck back to his vehicle since he was done writing me up
the officers weren't satisfied with just giving me a traffic ticket, and had the nerve to ask me if they can search through my car.
hmmm...now why would a police offer think that I would have anything illegal on me? could it be because im a young male that looks like he's got it made?
fortunately for me, i know my rights and i politely told the officer that he is free to move along now and get the f*ck back to his vehicle since he was done writing me up
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They're out there Mike...just like there are dodgy salesmen, doctors, nurses, teachers, priests etc..there are some police as well.
Thats the way our society is.....
Thats the way our society is.....
01-10-2008, 01:03 AM
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i just believe that there is one major factor that you are overlooking: and that is the psychological long-term effect that giving someone power over someone else or a great majority of the general public can do to you over a long period of time.
this is where the term "power-tripping" comes into play. you cannot compare a teacher or doctor to a police officer...for our noble, justice-seeking officers are vicitim to this disease if you want to call it.
a police offer that has served for many years or decades cannot possibly be imagined to be like a "normal citizen" once he retires or chooses to leave the force. he will for the rest of his life think he is "special" or better than everyone else or that he somehow deserves more respect than any other citizen.
being a police over a long period of time will corrupt you in more ways than one
01-10-2008, 01:44 AM
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i completely agree with you!
i just believe that there is one major factor that you are overlooking: and that is the psychological long-term effect that giving someone power over someone else or a great majority of the general public can do to you over a long period of time.
this is where the term "power-tripping" comes into play. you cannot compare a teacher or doctor to a police officer...for our noble, justice-seeking officers are vicitim to this disease if you want to call it.
a police offer that has served for many years or decades cannot possibly be imagined to be like a "normal citizen" once he retires or chooses to leave the force. he will for the rest of his life think he is "special" or better than everyone else or that he somehow deserves more respect than any other citizen.
being a police over a long period of time will corrupt you in more ways than one
i just believe that there is one major factor that you are overlooking: and that is the psychological long-term effect that giving someone power over someone else or a great majority of the general public can do to you over a long period of time.
this is where the term "power-tripping" comes into play. you cannot compare a teacher or doctor to a police officer...for our noble, justice-seeking officers are vicitim to this disease if you want to call it.
a police offer that has served for many years or decades cannot possibly be imagined to be like a "normal citizen" once he retires or chooses to leave the force. he will for the rest of his life think he is "special" or better than everyone else or that he somehow deserves more respect than any other citizen.
being a police over a long period of time will corrupt you in more ways than one
This is on top of working long hours, dealing with some pretty gruesome tasks, drawing a gun etc. Just weaing a uniform can make a person aggressive towards them. The jobs in their shift can change from a low level to a high level of stress in a very short space of time.
There are many more effects which need to be overcome such as dealing with the pressures that are put on their family and children.
Remember we are not alone. There are many people other than police who work in areas of high levels of stress, and have to contend with the same issues.
The more one appreciates the pressures...the better off we will be in understanding each other...
01-10-2008, 09:44 AM
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From this thread, I take it your encounters with the police have been traffic stops for offenses you actually committed but felt you were entitled to get away with, coupled with wanting to not get caught for drugs in your posession at the time.
Yeah, I can see how you'd have a bad attitude.
FWIW, during the dozen or so times I've gotten traffic tickets, each officer has been courteous and professional. That includes young ones and also those older ones you think must be corrupt. But I tended to be aware of what I had done, and also was not preoccupied with hiding contraband, so my experiences were different from yours.
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actually since you brought it up, there have been a couple occassions when i had been pulled over and by chance had some "substances" in my car that could really have affected me badly if i were to get caught with it.
the officers weren't satisfied with just giving me a traffic ticket, and had the nerve to ask me if they can search through my car.
hmmm...now why would a police offer think that I would have anything illegal on me? could it be because im a young male that looks like he's got it made?
the officers weren't satisfied with just giving me a traffic ticket, and had the nerve to ask me if they can search through my car.
hmmm...now why would a police offer think that I would have anything illegal on me? could it be because im a young male that looks like he's got it made?
01-11-2008, 12:00 AM
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I didnt' say speeders were reckless drivers. I specifically made them two different categories. You're right about speed limits being impractical though. I often drive through school zones and think "Man, I could go 70 if it weren't for that stupid 25mph speed limit sign."
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My turn tonight. First ticket in speeding ticket in 14 years. Just the law of averages catching up to me, it is not like i spent the previous 14 years not speeding. 79 in a 55, I told him that it was hard to believe, maybe 72 but not 79. He was not to be swayed by gentle humor so I bit the bullet, shut up, and took my punishment. I try to look at it as a fee I pay every once in awhile to enjoy my car. I am still bitter about cops sitting in the dark on the side of a highway and justifying it by saying that speeders are breaking the law also. In theory, I agree with that but it seems like the lazy cops way of justifying their jobs.
If they are patrolling bad neighborhoods and I go flying by them, fine they are doing the community a service. If they are watching a residential neighborhood or a school zone and I go flying through, fine, once again I am being an idiot and deserve it. But seriously, 80 percent of the people on the interstate are speeding so picking and choosing who you feel like laying the law down on seems like a pretty crappy way showing your authority. Just my bitter thoughts after getting busted....
If they are patrolling bad neighborhoods and I go flying by them, fine they are doing the community a service. If they are watching a residential neighborhood or a school zone and I go flying through, fine, once again I am being an idiot and deserve it. But seriously, 80 percent of the people on the interstate are speeding so picking and choosing who you feel like laying the law down on seems like a pretty crappy way showing your authority. Just my bitter thoughts after getting busted....
01-11-2008, 12:54 AM
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I think we can all agree that speeding tickets suck, and let we continue to speed to some extent. What you learn with a few years of driving is when and where it can be done safely. I for one can say that every time I have been pulled over for speeding the Officer has been more than justified. They have also been polite and professional.
On another note….Mike06, your attitude is disappointing to say the least. I hope you don’t approach the rest of your life with a similar outlook. In my line of work I work with people your age all the time, and I am finding that the “I am entitled” attitude followed by the “Why are you disrespecting me?” reaction to criticism is all too common. FYI…The world owes you NOTHING, and when someone takes the time to talk with you….LISTEN. You may learn something.
The advice from USCM320 is a great example. He basically said that your outlook on life can determine your experience. He is right on there.
On another note….Mike06, your attitude is disappointing to say the least. I hope you don’t approach the rest of your life with a similar outlook. In my line of work I work with people your age all the time, and I am finding that the “I am entitled” attitude followed by the “Why are you disrespecting me?” reaction to criticism is all too common. FYI…The world owes you NOTHING, and when someone takes the time to talk with you….LISTEN. You may learn something.
The advice from USCM320 is a great example. He basically said that your outlook on life can determine your experience. He is right on there.