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Old 01-20-2018, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wannawankel
How about the IAT BEFORE you start the car. I didn't see that above.
Here it is:
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You may want to do a capture when the strange noise is happening. AFR, ignition timing, knock count, cat temp, IAT temp, coolant temp, RPM.

IAT temp looks normal. I suppose it showed high in previous examples through combination of hot engine bay at idle and poor intake design.

But that said, I think it's also time to get your hands dirty and find that vacuum leak.

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Yah, low MAF reading + high LTFT makes me think small vacuum leak.
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Originally Posted by NotAPreppie
Yah, low MAF reading + high LTFT makes me think small vacuum leak.

I was thinking of getting the front 02 sensor replaced first. So far i've already changed MAF and fuel pump. If its same readings after replacement of 02 sensor, then its probably a bad hose, vacuum leak like you say?
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Correct method:
  1. Troubleshoot/Diagnose
  2. Throw parts at it.

Incorrect method:
  1. Throw parts at it
  2. Troubleshoot/diagnose
  3. Throw more parts at it.

Your MAF rate being low is unlikely to be caused by an O2 sensor.
Low MAF rate is typically indicative of a vacuum leak or low-compression. Based on that, you should search for a vacuum leak and get a compression test. Replacing the front O2 sensor may just end up being $200 wasted.
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Originally Posted by NotAPreppie
Correct method:
  1. Troubleshoot/Diagnose
  2. Throw parts at it.

Incorrect method:
  1. Throw parts at it
  2. Troubleshoot/diagnose
  3. Throw more parts at it.

Your MAF rate being low is unlikely to be caused by an O2 sensor.
Low MAF rate is typically indicative of a vacuum leak or low-compression. Based on that, you should search for a vacuum leak and get a compression test. Replacing the front O2 sensor may just end up being $200 wasted.
Well im not able to diagnose the car myself and and as mentioned, both dealers dont have a clue what they are doing. Here is new readings from today, MAF value higher. About 30 min trip then idle:



Is there any other readings i can check?

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No amount of readings are going to change the fact that your LTFT is high, indicating a vacuum leak. If the dealer won't help you, any decent mechanic can search for the leak and help solve at least that part. So can you, it requires no skills beyond watching a youtube video or two.
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Where are you located? Anywhere near Chicago? If you can limp it to my place, I'll help you.

Otherwise, here's a good how-to on the two best methods of finding vacuum leaks.
How to Find a Vacuum Leak - Smoking Out Vacuum Leaks

You can do this in a parking space with just a can of carb cleaner.
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Originally Posted by NotAPreppie
Where are you located? Anywhere near Chicago? If you can limp it to my place, I'll help you.

Otherwise, here's a good how-to on the two best methods of finding vacuum leaks.
How to Find a Vacuum Leak - Smoking Out Vacuum Leaks

You can do this in a parking space with just a can of carb cleaner.
I really appreciate the offer but im located in Norway. Im going to put up an ad for the problem. Hopefully ill find a dealer thats qualified to fix my car
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Reason for low maf reading at idle is probably your intake design , it's also why your IATs are insanely high and probably why you have high rpm power loss . I would replace that stupid intake with a stock one before you attempt to look for any other problems !
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+1 ^^

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I really appreciate the offer but im located in Norway. Im going to put up an ad for the problem. Hopefully ill find a dealer thats qualified to fix my car
Literally anyone can do this, you don't need a dealer.

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Originally Posted by Loki
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Literally anyone can do this, you don't need a dealer.
Just dropped of the car to some other dealer. They said they will pressure test it first.
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Originally Posted by kanie12
Just dropped of the car to some other dealer. They said they will pressure test it first.

Wow what a load of bullshit. The dealer clames the engine is completely done. They said they could diagnose thie easily since the speedo is on 200000km and these engines only lasted maximum 70000km. Also they claimed the engine could not be repaired or overhauled, that the parts fort that do not exist.
Also they said the compression test would not work correctly for this car, since its a rotary... OMFG.... I i have new engine since 2011 which has done aprox 65000km and have no starting issues.
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A Mazda dealer told you this?
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Sounds like you took it to a VW dealer ... Try an Audi dealer next time !
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They're correct that the rotary requires a special compression test tool, but diagnosing by looking at the odometer is a waste of your time. I hope you didn't have to pay for this.

Ready to try looking for vacuum leak now?
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Originally Posted by Loki
They're correct that the rotary requires a special compression test tool, but diagnosing by looking at the odometer is a waste of your time. I hope you didn't have to pay for this.

Ready to try looking for vacuum leak now?
No luckily they didn't charge me. I've sent an email to Mazda Norway, hopefully they can redirect me to the most qualified dealer. I really don't feel confident doing stuff on the car by myself. Worried I might damage something. I'm a computer wiz, on those I can fix anything 😁

I checked this DIY that was linked.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/a3094/how-to-find-a-vacuum-leak/ . Even if I do find the leak, I still need a qualified dealer to fix it 😑

"Yes, this is dangerous, especially if you consider your eyebrows important. There's not supposed to be an ignition source on the engine anywhere, but once in a blue moon, a stray spark or an overheated exhaust manifold can make the carb cleaner flare up. You've been warned." SERIOUSLY? After I'm done testing, the engine will catch on fire.

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Lol you're not going to catch fire any more than you'll get an electric shock working on a computer.

You could at least do a visual inspection. All you're looking for is a hose that's not connected to anything or a nipple that has no hose going to it. Since you have that Typhoon intake, the VFAD nipple under the throttle body, or the line from it would be my top suspects.
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Originally Posted by Loki
Lol you're not going to catch fire any more than you'll get an electric shock working on a computer.

You could at least do a visual inspection. All you're looking for is a hose that's not connected to anything or a nipple that has no hose going to it. Since you have that Typhoon intake, the VFAD nipple under the throttle body, or the line from it would be my top suspects.
Ok thanks Loki, i will do just that, see if anything is loose or missing. The good news is that Mazda HQ answered me back and they say they will find a suitable dealer to do the repair. Fingers crossed

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Ok thanks Loki, i will do just that, see if anything is loose or missing. The good news is that Mazda HQ answered me back and they say they will find a suitable dealer to do the repair. Fingers crossed
I checked for any obvious loose hoses, couldnt find any.











Here is some pics of the plugs that were recently replaced:




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Those plugs ran pig rich, so that confirms the symptoms.
Here's the thing to check: on the underside of the throttle body, sort of above the blue/black ignition coils on the 2nd picture, but aft, there is a nipple that is out of sight. My bet is it is either not plugged, or the hose going to it is not plugged.
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Originally Posted by Loki
Those plugs ran pig rich, so that confirms the symptoms.
Here's the thing to check: on the underside of the throttle body, sort of above the blue/black ignition coils on the 2nd picture, but aft, there is a nipple that is out of sight. My bet is it is either not plugged, or the hose going to it is not plugged.
Ok thanks again Loki! Will check this and post back asap tomorrow. 🙄
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Ok thanks again Loki! Will check this and post back asap tomorrow. 🙄

Think i've found the problem 😁😂, agree?


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Oh dear .............


In other news ... do as Loki suggested and check that hose with the green and white check valve on it you can see in your picture . Is the far end of that hose plugged ? Or is it still connected to the VFAD valve .... if it's connected to the valve and the other valve port isn't plugged ....that's a vac leak !

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Originally Posted by Brettus
Oh dear .............


In other news ... do as Loki suggested and check that hose with the green and white check valve on it you can see in your picture . Is the far end of that hose plugged ? Or is it still connected to the VFAD valve .... if it's connected to the valve and the other valve port isn't plugged ....that's a vac leak !
Not this end right? I'll check other side.


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