Pico

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Good point LOL

But no likes a cry baby

jasonrxeight

hard staring when cold?
has the flash been done? if not could be low compression which means new engine woot.

rotaryftw

the new flash was performed in nov. so as i've been reading threads, i think the compression possibly could be the problem here.

velociti

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jesus. tough crowd on here, guys.

ken-x8

Could have been worse. A few years ago list price for plugs was $240. You can get a set from vendors here (or Amazon or sparkplugs.com) for around $80. Worth having a spare set on hand.

Since you're not turning it off cold, it's not your fault.

The latest flash delays fuel injection a couple of turns on starting, to reduce odds of flooding. It also turns off fuel flow if you floor it while cranking, so in principle you don't have to pull the fuse. Newer models have a stronger starter, and the faster cranking helps with flooding.

That exhausts my knowledge, most of which I learned here. There are lots of posts on how stronger ignition coils help. I'd also wonder if the fuel system is OK - maybe you have the equivalent of a stuck choke. Has gas mileage been in the expected range?

Ken

rotaryftw

in town i get between 12-15 mpg

freeway i get between 20-28mpg

Z0oMzo0m

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freeway 20-28.. wow 8 mpg difference in there usually its like 2 maybe 3 difference.

Im lucky to get 18 on highway at speed of 70-75 mph... anything above 80 it drops.lol this is with MM tune also! lol

But id start with your coils, replace them and see if it helps.

ken-x8

Just don't order them from the same place that charged $144 for a set of plugs. Check the forum vendors.

Gas mileage sounds like it's in range. The official EPA numbers are 18 city, 24 highway, and yours fall short by the customary amount. So it's not like the fuel injection system is hosing you down.

Ken

rodjonathan

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theres alot of info but basically make sure its warm BEFORE you turn it off!!!

yiksing

A RX-8 is like a woman, you gotta make her warm before you turn her off.

rotaryftw

i NEVER SHUT THIS CAR OFF COLD.

took the 8 for a long coast drive today. and after i got home, the thing still was hard starting. and keep in mind the car is warm from the drive, and its 80 degrees outside.

this is NOT a driver error problem.

onefatsurfer

sounds like you have either a compression issue, carbon buildup, or bad spark. try decarbing, if that doesnt' work, replace the coils, and if that doesn't work, bring it to the dealer and tell them you're having problems starting it when the engine is warm.

nycgps

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starter ? ever replaced ?

04 dude. that original starter suck (too slow)

rotaryftw

it still has the stock starter....

last time i was at mazda after i bought the car, i mentioned the compression issue and the recall on the engines and they were like what are you talking about?

nycgps

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rofl ?

you're in the US right? cuz if u're no way the dealership ppl wouldn't know about the recall.

technically speaking its not engine recall, is an emission recall.

Razz1

You pulled the plugs and fuel came out?

Did you you air dry the chamber?

If you had liquid you need to completely dry it out or you will flood the new plugs.

HAve you checked out Mazda Manic's Access Port yet?