RX8Z

It reminds of the people that think because they recycle soda cans.. they are saving the planet and doing a good deed meanwhile they bought an SUV that pretty much gets 4 mpg...

You know what I tell my customers all the time, jokingly of course.. when they say, how can I save on gas?

I say.. very firmly to them..

You "WALK"...

=)

Johnny_Yen

Alot of eyeball and great fun for very little $. A winner by any measure.

Rotarian_SC

Highly Satisfied

Well going on 2k mi, and the gas for me has been good, on par with what i expected. Usually low 20's overall, and no i don't shift at 3k rpms. But most of my miles are highway miles, but i drive some in the city also. There are a few notes for those of you who do want better milage. First of all shift at 3k rpms and the mileage should b good. But that is no fun, real useful tips are fill up at half a tank. U get better milage the 1st half of a tank, plus i always get nervous when my fuel gets below a quarter of a tank. Second, buy your gas when it is COLD. Don't tend 2 stop at 1pm, stop after dark or early morning. Because the colder weather the gas is more dense, so there is really more gas in a gallon if that makes sense.

I have not flooded yet, extremely fun to drive, and can seat 4 adults. I am 6'2 (i am long legged though) and i can fit in the back seat, w/ the moonroof! However i doubt i would like 2 spend more than 2hrs in a row back there. I didn't know about the flooding at time of purchase, but the salesman who was clueless at least told me "the rotary is an exotic engine, and you need to rev it to 3k rpms for a minute if u have driven it less than 5min." So i guess that counts, neways i never drive it less than 5min so that doesn't matter. And also i let it warm up a little b4 heading out cause i heard that letting the engine circulate a little more in the engine b4 u get going prolongs life.

How i got the car:
If this car did not have the backseat, period. I would have gotten an accord or rsx-s, g35, or TL instead. I decided 2 take a test drive based on what magazines had reported on it, plus i am a fan of innovation and uniqueness. I absolutely loved the car. I went for another test drive and i took it by my wife's office (she owns a small business). I told her jokingly that i had bought it for her as a christmas present, while it was a week or so b4 Christmas. My wife and I play a lot of jokes on eachother. We both don't really think that secretly spending $30k w/out the spouse knowing and having input is a good thing, no matter what happens on the commercials. She really liked the way the car looked and she decided to go for a test drive and she loved it also. She took another one and loved it even more. We both loved the car and decided on buying it to replace our 97 Honda CRV w/ over 200kmi on it.

I am however not totally satisfied w/ the rx8, there will have 2 b 2 conditions for that level of satisfaction to be achived. One is installing Canzoomers ECU mod, which is on its way to my house . The second condition is the engine must make it over 100k mi. I know rotaries have a bad reputation, but i seem 2 remember that NA rotaries were very reliable. Reliability only began to fade when twin turbos were slapped on and a large amount of boost put in.

Well that post (i think it is more of a book myself) is finished and i hope all of u r sufficiently bored by now :-p .

Monique

i love it, i love it, i love it! and im the only one around who has one! ok, so i saw one in my area, wasnt as s-w-e-e-t as mine!!
(new orleans, la)

maxwell72764

Monique, THATs the attitude to have! Hope you feel that way many years to come!

Roaddemon

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rotarian_SC
[B]Highly Satisfied

I know rotaries have a bad reputation, but i seem 2 remember that NA rotaries were very reliable. Reliability only began to fade when twin turbos were slapped on and a large amount of boost put in.


I had a 1982 rx7, never gave me any problem I traded it after 4 years and 45k mi. Several years later I bought a used 1986 rx7 SE . It had 75k on it and ran like a clock. It got stolen a year later. If you look on e-bay you'll see lots of older rx 7's with high mileage. Non- turbo Rotories are known for they're longevity, performance and dependability. The rx8 is a solid design and should last for many years. No regrets here. I know what I got. I got the best.

cvan707

The not so good:

#1... Gas Mileage - 18mpg highway WTF??
#2... Suspension- already loose after only 2000 miles
#3... City Driving- not very good on potholes
#4... $4000 for... FAKE LEATHER!!! WTFx100!?!? Shame on Mazda!
#5... Sunroof not active on first auxillary ignition position, always turning off ignition then reaching for the sunroof and it's dead...
#6... Bridgestone Tires, that's plain hitting below the belt.. ouch

The good:

#1... Highway driving- practically untouchable
#2... Drop Dead Good Looks
#3... Excellent upper RPM acceleration
#4... Amazing handling
#5... Drop Dead Good Looks
#6... Drop Dead Good Looks


Sorry if it sounds too negative, just call 'em like I see 'em. Somewhat satisfied, they could have put a bit more quality in there for the price, like the 3000GT/Stealth

Roaddemon

[QUOTE]Originally posted by cvan707
[B]The not so good:

#1... Gas Mileage - 18mpg highway WTF??
#2... Suspension- already loose after only 2000 miles
#3... City Driving- not very good on potholes
#4... $4000 for... FAKE LEATHER!!! WTFx100!?!? Shame on Mazda!
#5... Sunroof not active on first auxillary ignition position, always turning off ignition then reaching for the sunroof and it's dead...
#6... Bridgestone Tires, that's plain hitting below the belt.. ouch

The good:

#1... Highway driving- practically untouchable
#2... Drop Dead Good Looks
#3... Excellent upper RPM acceleration
#4... Amazing handling
#5... Drop Dead Good Looks
#6... Drop Dead Good Looks

-The car will run fine on 87 octane negating your fuel cost for poor mileage.
-2300 mi and my suspension is just fine
-what car is on potholes? drive around them
-Sunroof who cares? Turn the car ignition back on or close it before you turn ignition off.
I don't know what your talking about concerning the leather and The tires are excellent.

Are you a real owner or just here to flame the car?

RX8Z

Cvan wrote..

The not so good:

#1... Gas Mileage - 18mpg highway WTF??

-Use lower octane, try doing a search and you'll find out that the Rx8 doenst need prem fuel.

#2... Suspension- already loose after only 2000 miles
-Maybe its just your perception, you realize that body and parts do settle in and flex, but then again after reading #3 .. it makes sense why your suspension is loose

#3... City Driving- not very good on potholes
-DONT DRIVE ON POTHOLES !! COME ON BE REALISTIC , THATS WHAT HUMMERS ARE FOR !

#4... $4000 for... FAKE LEATHER!!! WTFx100!?!? Shame on Mazda!
-????? Ok there, I guess the 3000gt/Stealth had premium goat skin..

#5... Sunroof not active on first auxillary ignition position, always turning off ignition then reaching for the sunroof and it's dead...
-A Minor inconvenience that almost every car has...

#6... Bridgestone Tires, that's plain hitting below the belt.. ouch
-Sorry this isnt a Ford Explorer, and if im not mistaken.. Bridgestone makes one of the best tires in the world and most used on sports/super cars.. Potenzas S0-3/S0-2's . If you never used them, try them out then come back and talk trash.

and to top it off, 3000gt and Stealth QUALITY ??? My god... I aint even going to go there..

msrecant

Roaddemon and RX8Z,

As a "somewhat satisfied" person myself, regardless of whether you agree with CVAN or not, he still has the right to say he is "somewhat satisfied" and to list his reasons.

RX8Z

Understandable, and everyone has a right to voice their opinion which I only did as well.

I am merely stating back to him that his reasonings are not justified at all, and I find this negatives quite unreasonable except for the gas, that I can see as an issue.

Again, just an opinion so dont take it personal but being this is an Rx8 Community, did you honestly think he would be able to walk through insulting our beloved cars without getting feedback?? =)

msrecant

RX8Z,

Check out the first post in this thread. The idea is to get people's opinions about their cars, not argue with them about what they think.

If you want to do that, PM CVAN or start another thread.

RX8Z

Kind of like what youre doing with me now right, perhaps you couldve Pm me but of course , youre not arguing with me, your just telling me to do something I shouldnt do, that you're doing right now

Listen, this is a forum and this thread is open to all discussions about the Rx8 whether positive or negative. As an RX8 owner, I am allowed to debate and argue about someones opinion, especially when we all know there is no substance to it. Perhaps, we are all getting worked up about this whole issue, but lets just say I hate to see a new guy come in and say, omg Rx8 is a crappy car, fake leather and Oh no Bridgestone tires ! But you know what , Im sorry, I just had to say something.. cuz you know, I just love my Rx8

Z

Roaddemon

Sure he does, so do I. I can certainly disagree if I think his comments are off the deep end. IMHO I think it is a flame. Some of his comments don't make any sense to me. Again just my opinion. If he's real then I hope I've enlightened him

RolenImportsRX8

neutral. I love driving the car, it's like no other. I really didn't like being stranded 30 miles from home out in BFE the second day that I owned it. Now my check engine light is on. I REALLY can't express how much I love driving this car, but I'm sick of the rental Mazda 6.

jonalan

I don't think he's here to flame, or he would have probably said he was dissatisfied. I think he may just be somewhat naive on his "not so goods" expectations.

cvan707

Now, we're all entitled to our opinions. If you feel the RX-8 is flawless and superior in every aspect then it's your opinion and I respect it. Just turn your head when you see a Turbo Carrera or dare I even say Corvette, and you'll be ok. I think some of you guys might be confused, I did give it a somewhat satisfied review. It's a blast on the highway and handles like a go cart. If you drop $31,000 you kinda want decent leather, that's all. Not looking for enemies, you asked for some honesty and you got it... Enlightenment not neccessary...

RX8-TX

Sorry cvan707, but I have to say it: Corvettes must be highly dedicated driving machines, but....their interior is far from acceptable for a $40K+ anything. My first time getting into one and I was VERY dissapointed of the "American Legend" Corvette (a C5 btw) - But in any case as you said, everyone is entitled to its opinion.

Let's keep it going!

Rotarian_SC

It is funny that you comment on a corvette because their interior's are horrible and the parking brake is bascially nonfunctional. It also doesn't have a back seat. The 911 Turbo's are nice also, but my rotary will probably outlast the turbo motor, and the 911 doesn't have a functional backseat, and it is only almost 3 times the price of an rx8. But that is just IMO also.

Roaddemon

Again I'm in agreement we are entitled to our opinion. Your comments were so frivolous (tires, leather,suspension) that it reinforces what I already know. It's hard to find flaws with the 8. No manufacturer can please everyone 100% of the time.
I don't think you somewhat satisfied guys realize what a great car this is. Time will tell. I somewhat notice the vette and porsch But I don't desire them like I do the BMW Z4,S2000,crossfire, and z 350 and rx8. These cars turn my head and interest me much more. So there you see we have our opinions but do not agree. I'm driving a $30k car that easily competes with cars in the $45k catagory. Mazda is known for giving customers more for their money. The 8 is no exception.
What's wrong with the leather anyway? Looks decent to me.
No enemies here. I enjoy and welcome all our opinions. Opinions make the forum. Thats my opinion.

RX8Z

Sorry Cvan, you're absolutely right , I dont agree with you but imo, it sounds like your cherry picking flaws. Its like a customer that comes in here and says, wow the civic is very plain and simple, but of course i have to reassure the guy that hes only spending 13k, what more do you want?

To many of us, it just seems you dislike the Rx8 more than you like it.. cuz the negatives you placed out were just below minor, not even..

But again, all opinions are welcomed =)

Btw, sorry but I cant see how you can put out a Vette and a Turbo Carerra, because I can put you in an NSX and yo uwill see a huge difference in quality, of course an NSX is only about 90k =)

cvan707

Good responses, maybe time will tell. Maybe when the balance of the loan gets low enough it won't bother me as much. A part of it is the price of cars have escalated since the early 90's and they're using thinner sheetmetal and more plastic injection parts, etc. etc. $31,000 can get you a lot of stuff if you don't spend it on a car- that's most of a house down payment. The auto industry players are the ones who sticker shocked the market, and now we don't even blink to drop 30+k on a car. I still believe the quality is slightly off, but everyone's doing it. On the other hand, you're also driving a car that probably took twenty million R&D $$$ to develop over the years. Still a blast to drive. Good thread guys, I'm done complainin' on this stuff...

Omicron

Hskr8, there are very few "reliability problems" with the 8. You hear about all of them here, and that makes it sound like the car is trouble prone. It's not. 99% of us have had NO problems with the car. Don't let the 1% you hear about make you think the car isn't good, because that's simply not the case. It's an awesome car.

RX8-TX

I respect what you are doing, and I would encourage you to wait and see what happens with us - the people who went for it without hesitation: you have a serious advantage...which is our feedback. We are no more that Guinea Pigs (happy ones!)

Arthur

I beg to differ--99% is not an accurate figure. If you look at the results of the survey on this thread, 7.75% of us are somewhat dissatisfied or disatified. Please don't discount our opinions!