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12-03-2007, 11:10 AM
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*sigh*
The S2000 won A Stock this year at SCCA autocross nationals. Fact. The RX-8 won B Stock. Fact. Different classes. Fact. For a reason. Fact. Nobody with any knowledge of both cars thinks that there's any race course in existence in which the RX-8 (stock) would beat the S2000 (stock), with expert drivers driving both cars. Fact. The stock S2000 typically dynos at 25 rwhp more than the stock RX-8. Fact.
All I'm trying to do is correct misstatements of fact. But carry on. It's apparently a hopeless task.
The S2000 won A Stock this year at SCCA autocross nationals. Fact. The RX-8 won B Stock. Fact. Different classes. Fact. For a reason. Fact. Nobody with any knowledge of both cars thinks that there's any race course in existence in which the RX-8 (stock) would beat the S2000 (stock), with expert drivers driving both cars. Fact. The stock S2000 typically dynos at 25 rwhp more than the stock RX-8. Fact.
All I'm trying to do is correct misstatements of fact. But carry on. It's apparently a hopeless task.
Just because it's in a different autocross class doesn't make it in your words "in a different class, literally and figuratively when measuring pure performance." The real facts are available to you at your local track days, where you'll usually find them stuck to eachothers bumpers.
I never disputed that in expert hands a S2000 should put in slightly better track times, stock for stock, after all it has far stiffer spring rates. But even that up a notch, as evidenced by the A spec 8 beating it in Best Motoring, and I'm not that impressed. And yeah, I know the A spec has a MS flywheel/exhaust/intake, but didn't this site confirm those mods mean squat?
No need to get peeved, I was in a Miata when the s2k came out so you can imagine how much I wanted one. Nobody makes better 4 bangers, I have a Fireblade so I should know. But my 2nd boy that came along put me into a four seat Pissat, so no s2k for me.
So talking about your misstatements of fact, I agree, so lets not suggest to anybody that the S2000 is in a different universe of performance. Again, re-read the MT test that I referenced if you believe that it is. Is the Honda a better sportscar? Even though Motor Trend doesn't seem to think so - I do. But it's not better in leaps and bounds as you seem to suggest.
12-03-2007, 11:17 AM
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both sides have very valid points
therefore, the rx8 sucks, the s2k sucks, both sides failed miserably
the Ford model T was the shiznit, end of story
Tajabaho1 is the ****, he pwns all
the end
moving on.................
therefore, the rx8 sucks, the s2k sucks, both sides failed miserably
the Ford model T was the shiznit, end of story
Tajabaho1 is the ****, he pwns all
the end
moving on.................
12-03-2007, 11:18 AM
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...having you call me a fanboi is like having Elton John call someone gay. This coming from a guy who believes the Lord Himself designed his Evo.Be my guest in quoting whatever comment of mine that would make me a fanboi. As for you, if I had the patience I'd make a great collection of Ike's Evo love statements. Now I too like Evo's, but I've actually seen you wax poetically about its power delivery (read turbo lag), its simple (read cheapo) interior, its firm (read bone crushing) ride, etc. Do you even know that you don't need lag/cheap/bone crushing anything to have a great performance car? Real impartial reviews of the Evo suggest that its NVH ratings would make even the lowliest of econoboxes feel like a Lexus.
So how 'bout you stop screwing fruit for a sec. and realize you're the biggest fanboi of them all.
12-03-2007, 11:21 AM
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12-03-2007, 11:41 AM
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Rx8 vs S2000 contest. I test drove the S2000 several times before buying the 8. They have similar handling and engine qualities. The S2000 is lighter and shorter therefore a little more nimble. It will have a slight performance edge. I like the rag top. The 8 offers much more in practicallity, comfort and is just as much fun. The 8 power delivery is smoother. Purist will be happy with the S2000. Everyone else will be happiest with the 8. The 8 has it all over the non-turbo rx7. I owned 2 of them, there is no contest. I think the 8 wins over the S2000 too. Car and Driver explains why. Need we say more?
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*double sigh*
Just because it's in a different autocross class doesn't make it in your words "in a different class, literally and figuratively when measuring pure performance." The real facts are available to you at your local track days, where you'll usually find them stuck to eachothers bumpers.
Just because it's in a different autocross class doesn't make it in your words "in a different class, literally and figuratively when measuring pure performance." The real facts are available to you at your local track days, where you'll usually find them stuck to eachothers bumpers.
I never disputed that in expert hands a S2000 should put in slightly better track times, stock for stock, after all it has far stiffer spring rates. But even that up a notch, as evidenced by the A spec 8 beating it in Best Motoring, and I'm not that impressed. And yeah, I know the A spec has a MS flywheel/exhaust/intake, but didn't this site confirm those mods mean squat?
No need to get peeved, I was in a Miata when the s2k came out so you can imagine how much I wanted one. Nobody makes better 4 bangers, I have a Fireblade so I should know. But my 2nd boy that came along put me into a four seat Pissat, so no s2k for me.
So talking about your misstatements of fact, I agree, so lets not suggest to anybody that the S2000 is in a different universe of performance. Again, re-read the MT test that I referenced if you believe that it is. Is the Honda a better sportscar? Even though Motor Trend doesn't seem to think so - I do. But it's not better in leaps and bounds as you seem to suggest.
For the thousandth time, the RX-8 is a fine car, both absolutely and in terms of the combination of performance and utility. Just because it doesn't perform quite to the level of the S2000 doesn't detract from that at all, and I don't know why it's so important to so many of you to pretend that it is the best car in the world, or even "better" than it really is.
12-03-2007, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 124Spider
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Fact. The stock S2000 typically dynos at 25 rwhp more than the stock RX-8.
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The S2000 is only rated 8 more hp from factory. Must be some mysterious loss to the rear wheels on the 8. Mazda says sensors will defeat true rwhp dyno reads on the 8. The real advantage the S2000 has on the track is it's small size, racing chassis and power to weight ratio. It's a little race car. I wonder if the miata would take it with 50 more hp. I think it would be close.
*sigh*
Fact. The stock S2000 typically dynos at 25 rwhp more than the stock RX-8.
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The S2000 is only rated 8 more hp from factory. Must be some mysterious loss to the rear wheels on the 8. Mazda says sensors will defeat true rwhp dyno reads on the 8. The real advantage the S2000 has on the track is it's small size, racing chassis and power to weight ratio. It's a little race car. I wonder if the miata would take it with 50 more hp. I think it would be close.
12-03-2007, 12:29 PM
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both cars are nice and both have decent power and both are chick magnets, i guess it depends on wether you wanna carry one chick in the front and none in the back??? with the 8 you can carry 3 chicks and maybe one one the middle console,hehehe......i have.
12-03-2007, 12:36 PM
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I carry one chick and all her stuff in the back. Makes for a happy marriage.
12-03-2007, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 124Spider
*sigh*
Fact. The stock S2000 typically dynos at 25 rwhp more than the stock RX-8.
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The S2000 is only rated 8 more hp from factory. Must be some mysterious loss to the rear wheels on the 8. Mazda says sensors will defeat true rwhp dyno reads on the 8. The real advantage the S2000 has on the track is it's small size, racing chassis and power to weight ratio. It's a little race car. I wonder if the miata would take it with 50 more hp. I think it would be close.
*sigh*
Fact. The stock S2000 typically dynos at 25 rwhp more than the stock RX-8.
---------------------------------------------
The S2000 is only rated 8 more hp from factory. Must be some mysterious loss to the rear wheels on the 8. Mazda says sensors will defeat true rwhp dyno reads on the 8. The real advantage the S2000 has on the track is it's small size, racing chassis and power to weight ratio. It's a little race car. I wonder if the miata would take it with 50 more hp. I think it would be close.
As for S2000 vs RX-8 you can't compare the two... they are completely different cars. The S2k is small, nimble and fast. Fact is people the S2k IS faster than the RX-8, deal with it. It isn't a practical every day car for most people, but younger people who don't have a family it is as practical as any other car for a DD. The 8 offers 4 doors, 4 seats, a great ride/tight suspension and is plenty quick for your average person. Simplifying the point... do you want a pure enthusiasts car which is fast and rough or do you want something practical with smooth ride, nice looks and has the thrill of a fun drive?
S2000 = street race car
RX-8 = practical sports car
12-03-2007, 01:46 PM
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Mine has about 60 more hp than a stock miata('04 Mazdaspeed MX-5 slightly modded) and I pull stock S2000's from a roll and it is a bit faster in the twisties
As for S2000 vs RX-8 you can't compare the two... they are completely different cars. The S2k is small, nimble and fast. Fact is people the S2k IS faster than the RX-8, deal with it. It isn't a practical every day car for most people, but younger people who don't have a family it is as practical as any other car for a DD. The 8 offers 4 doors, 4 seats, a great ride/tight suspension and is plenty quick for your average person. Simplifying the point... do you want a pure enthusiasts car which is fast and rough or do you want something practical with smooth ride, nice looks and has the thrill of a fun drive?
S2000 = street race car
RX-8 = practical sports car
As for S2000 vs RX-8 you can't compare the two... they are completely different cars. The S2k is small, nimble and fast. Fact is people the S2k IS faster than the RX-8, deal with it. It isn't a practical every day car for most people, but younger people who don't have a family it is as practical as any other car for a DD. The 8 offers 4 doors, 4 seats, a great ride/tight suspension and is plenty quick for your average person. Simplifying the point... do you want a pure enthusiasts car which is fast and rough or do you want something practical with smooth ride, nice looks and has the thrill of a fun drive?
S2000 = street race car
RX-8 = practical sports car
Thanks for answering and confirming my thought about the miata. I totally agree with the rest of your post too. Thanks for summerizing what I was trying to communicate about 8 vs S2000. Now we have closure.
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12-03-2007, 02:08 PM
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People actually think an RX-8 is a quicker car around a track than an S2000? What planet are we on?
The S2000 is lighter, it has more power, and it is more purpose built. It will be faster at the drag strip and faster at a road course. It's a faster car. PERIOD. The RX-8 is a much more practical car, but in terms of performance it's the S2000 hands down.
However, that practicality word I mentioned is the reason I ended up with an RX-8 over the S2000. I can afford both, but for daily driving the RX-8 is a much nicer choice.
I love car-specific forums simply because of how biased the members are. The Civic Si board I was on (that was my previous car) was the same way. On there the Civic Si was a better choice than the S2000 for performance. LOL!
And on the Top Gear topic. Since some of you believe that crap on that show, I'll just remind you that in a later episode they lapped a FWD Audi TT faster than the RX-8. Ouch.
The S2000 is lighter, it has more power, and it is more purpose built. It will be faster at the drag strip and faster at a road course. It's a faster car. PERIOD. The RX-8 is a much more practical car, but in terms of performance it's the S2000 hands down.
However, that practicality word I mentioned is the reason I ended up with an RX-8 over the S2000. I can afford both, but for daily driving the RX-8 is a much nicer choice.
I love car-specific forums simply because of how biased the members are. The Civic Si board I was on (that was my previous car) was the same way. On there the Civic Si was a better choice than the S2000 for performance. LOL!
And on the Top Gear topic. Since some of you believe that crap on that show, I'll just remind you that in a later episode they lapped a FWD Audi TT faster than the RX-8. Ouch.
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...having you call me a fanboi is like having Elton John call someone gay. This coming from a guy who believes the Lord Himself designed his Evo.Be my guest in quoting whatever comment of mine that would make me a fanboi. As for you, if I had the patience I'd make a great collection of Ike's Evo love statements. Now I too like Evo's, but I've actually seen you wax poetically about its power delivery (read turbo lag), its simple (read cheapo) interior, its firm (read bone crushing) ride, etc. Do you even know that you don't need lag/cheap/bone crushing anything to have a great performance car? Real impartial reviews of the Evo suggest that its NVH ratings would make even the lowliest of econoboxes feel like a Lexus.
So how 'bout you stop screwing fruit for a sec. and realize you're the biggest fanboi of them all.
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*sigh*
Nobody with any knowledge of both cars thinks that there's any race course in existence in which the RX-8 (stock) would beat the S2000 (stock), with expert drivers driving both cars. Fact. The stock S2000 typically dynos at 25 rwhp more than the stock RX-8. Fact.
Nobody with any knowledge of both cars thinks that there's any race course in existence in which the RX-8 (stock) would beat the S2000 (stock), with expert drivers driving both cars. Fact. The stock S2000 typically dynos at 25 rwhp more than the stock RX-8. Fact.
Fin. Start Car # Driver Car/Sponsor Total Time Laps Gap Best Time
1 32 John Heinricy Royal Oak Cobalt Chevrolet 01:49.5 01:48.3 01:47.3 01:49.4
2 84 Kevin Fandozzi Birmingham Cobalt SC Chevrolet 01:50.0 01:49.4 01:48.0 01:48.3
3 27 Robert Huffmaster Rochester Hills RX8 Mazda 01:49.5 01:49.7 01:48.9 01:48.9
4 1 Richard Gilhart Cincinnati RX8 Mazda 01:50.4 01:50.0 01:49.2 01:49.7
5 78 Dwight Faitz Jr. Trenton Legacy GT Subaru 01:51.2 01:51.3 01:50.6 01:49.3
6 34 Dennis Holloway Huntington Beach RX8 Mazda 01:50.8 01:51.0 01:50.2 01:49.6
7 15 Scott Shelton Burbank RX8 Mazda 01:50.7 01:50.6 01:49.7 01:49.9
8 2 Wiley Timbrook Kingman S2000 Honda 01:50.9 01:49.9 01:49.9 01:49.8
9 7 Jim Holloway Huntington Beach RX8 Mazda 01:50.9 01:51.2 01:49.8 01:49.8
10 81 Joel Lipperini Pittston S2000 Honda -.--- 01:51.5 01:50.2 01:50.1
11 44 Robert Boileau III Monument S2000 Honda 01:52.2 01:51.0 01:50.2 01:50.7
12 5 Chad Gilsinger Marysville S2000 Honda 01:52.0 01:51.7 01:50.4 01:50.7
13 12 Rob Lay Southlake RX8 Mazda 01:51.3 01:51.3 01:50.9 01:50.7
14 13 Scotty B White Puyallup Crossfire Chrysler 01:51.8 01:51.2 01:51.1 01:51.9
15 8 Shannon McMasters Granbury RX8 Mazda 01:54.2 01:53.9 01:51.6 01:52.4
16 71 Richard Dickey Granbury RX8 Mazda 01:54.4 01:52.5 01:51.6 01:52.6
17 21 Jerold Lowe Puyallup Crossfire Crysler 01:58.5 01:53.0 01:52.0 01:52.6
18 82 John Costello Wilkes Barre S2000 Honda 01:54.4 01:53.0 01:52.1 01:53.1
19 4 David Vodden Willows S2000 Honda 01:56.8 01:56.4 01:52.6 01:54.6
20 18 Hugh Nguyen Houston Miata Mazda -.--- -.--- 01:52.7 -.---
21 99 Rob Piekarczyk Parma RX8 Mazda 01:54.4 01:54.1 01:53.0 01:52.9
22 42 Michael Kramer Lewisburg ION RedLine Saturn 01:55.5 01:54.0 01:53.2 01:59.8
23 31 Lynne Griffiths Menlo Park RX8 Mazda 01:56.6 01:55.6 01:54.6 01:55.5
24 3 Don Istook Fort Worth TT AUDI 01:56.1 01:57.2 01:54.8 01:54.7
25 83 Terry Rohr Cave Creek WRX TR Subaru 01:56.9 01:55.9 01:55.8 01:56.1
26 77 Michael Ference III San Antonio S2000 Honda 01:58.3 02:01.0 01:57.0 01:59.1
27 17 Brent Ostendorff Greer Mazdaspeed Miata Mazda 02:02.7 01:58.4 -.--- 01:59.0
28 1 Colin Cohen Southlake TT Audi 02:35.5 02:00.3 02:00.3 02:00.7
29 69 Kristian Skavnes Sparta S2000 Honda -.--- -.--- -.--- -.---
Won by an RX8.
Power isn't everything. The Honda is lighter and has more power then the RX8. The RX8 is faster through the turns and on throttle is a little sooner. With a slightly higher exit speed that speed gets carried all the way down the straight.
Now thats what I call a fact.
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As for you...here's some actual Ike statements from just a few minutes of looking, no editing necessary...
The only thing to marvel about with a regular C6 vette is how bad the shifter is and how little driver feedback it has. Don't get me wrong, they are impressive cars for the money, but they're hardly automotive nirvana and I'll take an Evo or Elise over a Vette during a trackday every time. And no, a C6 will not smoke my Evo.
I agree that the modded argument vs. stock can be and usually is lame. I was just trying to point out that a basic C6 Vette is not going to "smoke" an Evo around a track.
In short, I don't know if the Vette is faster or the Evo is faster stock for stock. It's probably going to come down to the track but one isn't going to "smoke" the other on most tracks on most days. However, most of the time I absolutely love the rawness of the current Evo. The razor edge steering, the big rush of the turbo kicking in, and the muscular gussied up econocar looks all are good things in my book.
I'm shocked at how many compliments I get on my car and all the gawkers. Barely a week goes by without someone checking out my car in the parking lot when I'm walking out to it.
The way I'm looking at it is the current Evo is the last of it's breed.
Yeah, you're not a fanboi.
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FWIW at the qualifying at the Runoffs this year.
Fin. Start Car # Driver Car/Sponsor Total Time Laps Gap Best Time
1 32 John Heinricy Royal Oak Cobalt Chevrolet 01:49.5 01:48.3 01:47.3 01:49.4
2 84 Kevin Fandozzi Birmingham Cobalt SC Chevrolet 01:50.0 01:49.4 01:48.0 01:48.3
3 27 Robert Huffmaster Rochester Hills RX8 Mazda 01:49.5 01:49.7 01:48.9 01:48.9
4 1 Richard Gilhart Cincinnati RX8 Mazda 01:50.4 01:50.0 01:49.2 01:49.7
5 78 Dwight Faitz Jr. Trenton Legacy GT Subaru 01:51.2 01:51.3 01:50.6 01:49.3
6 34 Dennis Holloway Huntington Beach RX8 Mazda 01:50.8 01:51.0 01:50.2 01:49.6
7 15 Scott Shelton Burbank RX8 Mazda 01:50.7 01:50.6 01:49.7 01:49.9
8 2 Wiley Timbrook Kingman S2000 Honda 01:50.9 01:49.9 01:49.9 01:49.8
9 7 Jim Holloway Huntington Beach RX8 Mazda 01:50.9 01:51.2 01:49.8 01:49.8
10 81 Joel Lipperini Pittston S2000 Honda -.--- 01:51.5 01:50.2 01:50.1
11 44 Robert Boileau III Monument S2000 Honda 01:52.2 01:51.0 01:50.2 01:50.7
12 5 Chad Gilsinger Marysville S2000 Honda 01:52.0 01:51.7 01:50.4 01:50.7
13 12 Rob Lay Southlake RX8 Mazda 01:51.3 01:51.3 01:50.9 01:50.7
14 13 Scotty B White Puyallup Crossfire Chrysler 01:51.8 01:51.2 01:51.1 01:51.9
15 8 Shannon McMasters Granbury RX8 Mazda 01:54.2 01:53.9 01:51.6 01:52.4
16 71 Richard Dickey Granbury RX8 Mazda 01:54.4 01:52.5 01:51.6 01:52.6
17 21 Jerold Lowe Puyallup Crossfire Crysler 01:58.5 01:53.0 01:52.0 01:52.6
18 82 John Costello Wilkes Barre S2000 Honda 01:54.4 01:53.0 01:52.1 01:53.1
19 4 David Vodden Willows S2000 Honda 01:56.8 01:56.4 01:52.6 01:54.6
20 18 Hugh Nguyen Houston Miata Mazda -.--- -.--- 01:52.7 -.---
21 99 Rob Piekarczyk Parma RX8 Mazda 01:54.4 01:54.1 01:53.0 01:52.9
22 42 Michael Kramer Lewisburg ION RedLine Saturn 01:55.5 01:54.0 01:53.2 01:59.8
23 31 Lynne Griffiths Menlo Park RX8 Mazda 01:56.6 01:55.6 01:54.6 01:55.5
24 3 Don Istook Fort Worth TT AUDI 01:56.1 01:57.2 01:54.8 01:54.7
25 83 Terry Rohr Cave Creek WRX TR Subaru 01:56.9 01:55.9 01:55.8 01:56.1
26 77 Michael Ference III San Antonio S2000 Honda 01:58.3 02:01.0 01:57.0 01:59.1
27 17 Brent Ostendorff Greer Mazdaspeed Miata Mazda 02:02.7 01:58.4 -.--- 01:59.0
28 1 Colin Cohen Southlake TT Audi 02:35.5 02:00.3 02:00.3 02:00.7
29 69 Kristian Skavnes Sparta S2000 Honda -.--- -.--- -.--- -.---
Won by an RX8.
Power isn't everything. The Honda is lighter and has more power then the RX8. The RX8 is faster through the turns and on throttle is a little sooner. With a slightly higher exit speed that speed gets carried all the way down the straight.
Now thats what I call a fact.
Fin. Start Car # Driver Car/Sponsor Total Time Laps Gap Best Time
1 32 John Heinricy Royal Oak Cobalt Chevrolet 01:49.5 01:48.3 01:47.3 01:49.4
2 84 Kevin Fandozzi Birmingham Cobalt SC Chevrolet 01:50.0 01:49.4 01:48.0 01:48.3
3 27 Robert Huffmaster Rochester Hills RX8 Mazda 01:49.5 01:49.7 01:48.9 01:48.9
4 1 Richard Gilhart Cincinnati RX8 Mazda 01:50.4 01:50.0 01:49.2 01:49.7
5 78 Dwight Faitz Jr. Trenton Legacy GT Subaru 01:51.2 01:51.3 01:50.6 01:49.3
6 34 Dennis Holloway Huntington Beach RX8 Mazda 01:50.8 01:51.0 01:50.2 01:49.6
7 15 Scott Shelton Burbank RX8 Mazda 01:50.7 01:50.6 01:49.7 01:49.9
8 2 Wiley Timbrook Kingman S2000 Honda 01:50.9 01:49.9 01:49.9 01:49.8
9 7 Jim Holloway Huntington Beach RX8 Mazda 01:50.9 01:51.2 01:49.8 01:49.8
10 81 Joel Lipperini Pittston S2000 Honda -.--- 01:51.5 01:50.2 01:50.1
11 44 Robert Boileau III Monument S2000 Honda 01:52.2 01:51.0 01:50.2 01:50.7
12 5 Chad Gilsinger Marysville S2000 Honda 01:52.0 01:51.7 01:50.4 01:50.7
13 12 Rob Lay Southlake RX8 Mazda 01:51.3 01:51.3 01:50.9 01:50.7
14 13 Scotty B White Puyallup Crossfire Chrysler 01:51.8 01:51.2 01:51.1 01:51.9
15 8 Shannon McMasters Granbury RX8 Mazda 01:54.2 01:53.9 01:51.6 01:52.4
16 71 Richard Dickey Granbury RX8 Mazda 01:54.4 01:52.5 01:51.6 01:52.6
17 21 Jerold Lowe Puyallup Crossfire Crysler 01:58.5 01:53.0 01:52.0 01:52.6
18 82 John Costello Wilkes Barre S2000 Honda 01:54.4 01:53.0 01:52.1 01:53.1
19 4 David Vodden Willows S2000 Honda 01:56.8 01:56.4 01:52.6 01:54.6
20 18 Hugh Nguyen Houston Miata Mazda -.--- -.--- 01:52.7 -.---
21 99 Rob Piekarczyk Parma RX8 Mazda 01:54.4 01:54.1 01:53.0 01:52.9
22 42 Michael Kramer Lewisburg ION RedLine Saturn 01:55.5 01:54.0 01:53.2 01:59.8
23 31 Lynne Griffiths Menlo Park RX8 Mazda 01:56.6 01:55.6 01:54.6 01:55.5
24 3 Don Istook Fort Worth TT AUDI 01:56.1 01:57.2 01:54.8 01:54.7
25 83 Terry Rohr Cave Creek WRX TR Subaru 01:56.9 01:55.9 01:55.8 01:56.1
26 77 Michael Ference III San Antonio S2000 Honda 01:58.3 02:01.0 01:57.0 01:59.1
27 17 Brent Ostendorff Greer Mazdaspeed Miata Mazda 02:02.7 01:58.4 -.--- 01:59.0
28 1 Colin Cohen Southlake TT Audi 02:35.5 02:00.3 02:00.3 02:00.7
29 69 Kristian Skavnes Sparta S2000 Honda -.--- -.--- -.--- -.---
Won by an RX8.
Power isn't everything. The Honda is lighter and has more power then the RX8. The RX8 is faster through the turns and on throttle is a little sooner. With a slightly higher exit speed that speed gets carried all the way down the straight.
Now thats what I call a fact.
+1 Those are nice facts. Good disclosure.
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