Rx8 HP false advertising/Class Action
10-02-2006, 02:11 AM
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this thread is getting really ugly... who evers complaining about the low whp of the rx8, i would just say trade in your car for a 350z or something if hp is your number one issue. J-spec makes more whp due to lower emission standards in the far east compared to the US. Stated hp by mazda is also not whp, its the hp from the engine without the load of the body and drivetrain loss (i believe, correct me if i'm wrong).
if people keep on complaining about the so called "power loss" of the 8, just trade in your car for a 350z or m3 or something so you can compensate for something... b/c hp is such a big issue..
Side note, i didnt buy the car for the hp, i bought the car for the style, the rotary engine and the suspension/handling
if people keep on complaining about the so called "power loss" of the 8, just trade in your car for a 350z or m3 or something so you can compensate for something... b/c hp is such a big issue..
Side note, i didnt buy the car for the hp, i bought the car for the style, the rotary engine and the suspension/handling
10-02-2006, 08:28 AM
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Class Action Law Suit anyone?
Here's the thing, I have owned over 15 rotary powered cars in my 12 years of driving. The excitement for this RX-8 was there. However, nothing is right with this car. Wrong horsepower ratings from day one, blown motors, transmissions, and Mazda doesn't seem to care. I bought my RX-8 to keep forever, and now the numbers will never match. Mazda sucks and so does this RX-8! 
10-02-2006, 08:39 AM
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Lawyers are the only ones that win with Class Actions. All we will get is a $500 coupon on our next Mazda. As for your points Mazda offered buybacks / free service for the HP issue. My 5/2003 build with 76,000 still has the org motor & trans and runs great. Don't like your 8 go sell it, I will continue to enjoy mine.
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10-02-2006, 08:55 AM
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I'll bet we get more owners with problems than without. I haven't had any problems with my 8 yet either. But, you should question why mazda has offered additional warranty and have had major problems with this model. Also why haven't they changed the 8 yet? 4 years is a long time for a car that has had major issues. Don't get me wrong I love the car, but I want something worth money in 15 years.
10-02-2006, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by roonsrx
I'll bet we get more owners with problems than without. I haven't had any problems with my 8 yet either...Don't get me wrong I love the car, but I want something worth money in 15 years.
And you have had zero problems? I have no idea what you're complaining about. Mazda gave extended our warranties and you're upset about this? You purchased the car with the power levels it had, so what do you care?
Seriously, what other rotary vehicles have you owned that you are so worked-up about an RX-8 that has been flawless?
10-02-2006, 10:05 AM
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Self built and tuned...
You guy's don't know what problems really are. You should have owned a 1993 Rx7 from brand new. With the damn vacuum line situation where the blow off and only one turbo works to the 5th gear syncro.
For a guy that owned 15 rotaries (I have you beat in that area) you should stop crying and thanking mazda for building such a nice car.
I've been spending some time on this forum and in my honest opinion, some rx8 owners are the biggest bitches, some really don't deserve this car. For you, to want to start a class action lawsuit is just crazy since you never had any problems.
Sometimes these forums do more harm that good. It makes a guy that never had any problems hate his car so much to start a class action lawsuit, freakin pathetic. If you don't like it, sell it and get that altima you so much deserve.
Anthony
For a guy that owned 15 rotaries (I have you beat in that area) you should stop crying and thanking mazda for building such a nice car.
I've been spending some time on this forum and in my honest opinion, some rx8 owners are the biggest bitches, some really don't deserve this car. For you, to want to start a class action lawsuit is just crazy since you never had any problems.
Sometimes these forums do more harm that good. It makes a guy that never had any problems hate his car so much to start a class action lawsuit, freakin pathetic. If you don't like it, sell it and get that altima you so much deserve.
Anthony
10-02-2006, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by roonsrx
I'll bet we get more owners with problems than without. I haven't had any problems with my 8 yet either. But, you should question why mazda has offered additional warranty and have had major problems with this model. Also why haven't they changed the 8 yet? 4 years is a long time for a car that has had major issues. Don't get me wrong I love the car, but I want something worth money in 15 years.
You say there will be more owners with problems than without. Let's start a tally. Since you say you've had no problems, we'll put you down for "without." Score is now 0-1. That puts you behind.
Ken
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10-02-2006, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
You guy's don't know what problems really are. You should have owned a 1993 Rx7 from brand new. With the damn vacuum line situation where the blow off and only one turbo works to the 5th gear syncro.
For a guy that owned 15 rotaries (I have you beat in that area) you should stop crying and thanking mazda for building such a nice car.
I've been spending some time on this forum and in my honest opinion, some rx8 owners are the biggest bitches, some really don't deserve this car. For you, to want to start a class action lawsuit is just crazy since you never had any problems.
Sometimes these forums do more harm that good. It makes a guy that never had any problems hate his car so much to start a class action lawsuit, freakin pathetic. If you don't like it, sell it and get that altima you so much deserve.
Anthony
For a guy that owned 15 rotaries (I have you beat in that area) you should stop crying and thanking mazda for building such a nice car.
I've been spending some time on this forum and in my honest opinion, some rx8 owners are the biggest bitches, some really don't deserve this car. For you, to want to start a class action lawsuit is just crazy since you never had any problems.
Sometimes these forums do more harm that good. It makes a guy that never had any problems hate his car so much to start a class action lawsuit, freakin pathetic. If you don't like it, sell it and get that altima you so much deserve.
Anthony
Amen!
I haven't had any problems either, my first rotary and probally not my last.But for you guys that have problems, let me tell you, you are not alone....Somebody from every manufacture gets a few cars that are bad apples. I had a ' VW Jetta GLI , 2nd owner , and my car when i got it had 20k miles on it, Look like a gem, but was a money pit! My neibor had a 88 GLI too, in fair condition , but was mechanically sound from day one......Every car i owned after that have been problem free , but whose to say my next purchase won't be.
If i were in your shoes , the owners with bad Rx-8's, stay on top of Mazda until they fix it.
10-02-2006, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ken-x8
If you haven't had any problems with your car, what exactly is *your* problem?
You say there will be more owners with problems than without. Let's start a tally. Since you say you've had no problems, we'll put you down for "without." Score is now 0-1. That puts you behind.
Ken
You say there will be more owners with problems than without. Let's start a tally. Since you say you've had no problems, we'll put you down for "without." Score is now 0-1. That puts you behind.
Ken
You also have to keep in mind the amount of rx-8s sold to the amount of owners on this board. Problems can get magnified on the internet forums when this is only a small percentage of total ownership of the car. And I would be willing to say this is not going to be an indicative random sampling of 8 owners.
10-02-2006, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
You guy's don't know what problems really are. You should have owned a 1993 Rx7 from brand new. With the damn vacuum line situation where the blow off and only one turbo works to the 5th gear syncro.
For a guy that owned 15 rotaries (I have you beat in that area) you should stop crying and thanking mazda for building such a nice car.
I've been spending some time on this forum and in my honest opinion, some rx8 owners are the biggest bitches, some really don't deserve this car. For you, to want to start a class action lawsuit is just crazy since you never had any problems.
Sometimes these forums do more harm that good. It makes a guy that never had any problems hate his car so much to start a class action lawsuit, freakin pathetic. If you don't like it, sell it and get that altima you so much deserve.
Anthony
For a guy that owned 15 rotaries (I have you beat in that area) you should stop crying and thanking mazda for building such a nice car.
I've been spending some time on this forum and in my honest opinion, some rx8 owners are the biggest bitches, some really don't deserve this car. For you, to want to start a class action lawsuit is just crazy since you never had any problems.
Sometimes these forums do more harm that good. It makes a guy that never had any problems hate his car so much to start a class action lawsuit, freakin pathetic. If you don't like it, sell it and get that altima you so much deserve.
Anthony
10-02-2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
I want to start a class action suit against whining owners that are effecting the resale value of my car...
10-02-2006, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by roonsrx
Here's the thing, I have owned over 15 rotary powered cars in my 12 years of driving. The excitement for this RX-8 was there. However, nothing is right with this car. Wrong horsepower ratings from day one, blown motors, transmissions, and Mazda doesn't seem to care. I bought my RX-8 to keep forever, and now the numbers will never match. Mazda sucks and so does this RX-8!
Take a step back buddy, read your own posts, then realize people like YOU are the CAUSE of the 'problem' youre so upset about.
Jeezus, I know we arent supposed to resort to name calling on here, but what a whinny little bitch, your car is running fine and youre trying to insight a class action lawsuit? You dont deserve your car, sell it.
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10-02-2006, 10:38 AM
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Nice attitude - nothing is wrong with your car, so you think you should be able to sue and get money. The next thing you know you will sue your doctor because you are in perfect health. Obviously you don't understand class action suits. Even if the lawyers launching the suit win and you are part of the suit, you probably won't get as much as the $500 coupon towards a future Mazda as a previous person posted. I've been contacted by a law firm on another, similar dollar amount class action suit, and when you read the fine print, I could have made anywhere from $12 to $85 for joining the suit. The law firm stood to gain over 50% of the judgment. I did not join the suit, as I felt it is frivolous, just like your call for a suit.
You bought a car that has been reliable for you and you want to sue. Even though you haven't had any problems, Mazda extended the warranty. In what way do you figure that Mazda owes you anything?
You bought a car that has been reliable for you and you want to sue. Even though you haven't had any problems, Mazda extended the warranty. In what way do you figure that Mazda owes you anything?
10-02-2006, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFL_RX8
STFU and sell your car to someone who will enjoy it. In the mean time, stop posting these "I hate my RX8" threads and killing everyones resale value, seeing as thats SOOO important to you.
Take a step back buddy, read your own posts, then realize people like YOU are the CAUSE of the 'problem' youre so upset about.
Jeezus, I know we arent supposed to resort to name calling on here, but what a whinny little bitch, your car is running fine and youre trying to insight a class action lawsuit? You dont deserve your car, sell it.
Take a step back buddy, read your own posts, then realize people like YOU are the CAUSE of the 'problem' youre so upset about.
Jeezus, I know we arent supposed to resort to name calling on here, but what a whinny little bitch, your car is running fine and youre trying to insight a class action lawsuit? You dont deserve your car, sell it.
In short, this car isn't what America wants and the supply is much, much greater than the demand. This forum neither creates less demand or higher supply and thus doesn't have much impact on resale values overall.
10-02-2006, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Ok, the OP is clearly on drugs of some sort, but the idea that threads on this forum are hurting resale values is ridiculous. Faulty horsepower numbers, little low-end torque, bad marketing, mulligan-gate, recalls, bad reputations for rotaries reliability, flooding concerns, and poor gas mileage are what hurt resale values.
In short, this car isn't what America wants and the supply is much, much greater than the demand. This forum neither creates less demand or higher supply and thus doesn't have much impact on resale values overall.
In short, this car isn't what America wants and the supply is much, much greater than the demand. This forum neither creates less demand or higher supply and thus doesn't have much impact on resale values overall.
I beg to differ. I do agree that these boards will not have much impact on overall resale value but, as more people do research on the internet before they buy a car I would be willing to bet there have been at least some number of people that have been turned off of the car by something they found on these boards. And a lot of the factors you listed seem to be propogated more on these boards than they really are real world problems, from what I can tell.
10-02-2006, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mac11
I beg to differ. I do agree that these boards will not have much impact on overall resale value but, as more people do research on the internet before they buy a car I would be willing to bet there have been at least some number of people that have been turned off of the car by something they found on these boards. And a lot of the factors you listed seem to be propogated more on these boards than they really are real world problems, from what I can tell.
This forum does what it's supposed to do. It gives a good depiction of what it's like to own an 8 in various parts of the country under various conditions. Most people are rational and present pros and cons in a reasonable way. There's no way this forum does more harm than good despite what some fanboi's believe.
10-02-2006, 11:25 AM
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zeblien thought there should be a sticky about the HP restsatement sillyness. so i made this one a sticky for awhile. I merged the Class Action one in here as well.
Here is my new policy regarding these threads. Any future thread on HP restatements will be immediately closed. Unless of course there is a furthur change to the current rating.
Any future thread started about a class action lawsuit that doesnt include the fact that the OP has already filed said suit or links to someone else having filed said suit will be immediately closed.
Here is my new policy regarding these threads. Any future thread on HP restatements will be immediately closed. Unless of course there is a furthur change to the current rating.
Any future thread started about a class action lawsuit that doesnt include the fact that the OP has already filed said suit or links to someone else having filed said suit will be immediately closed.
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