Rx-8 Vs. Prelude
06-19-2010, 09:15 AM
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1. Not a practical first car if daddy's buying. (No sense of value, won't give a f*ck)
2. Not going to be the easiest at that age for anything price wise (especially insurance).
3. There's just too many of these threads. Someone post a sticky with everything you should know if wanting to buy an 8... which I thought there was one.
Anyway, I got this car when I was 17. BUT I worked two jobs to pay for it all myself. Every last bit. That made me value it and appreciate it a lot more. If daddy just handed me it, I'd probably beat the **** out of it, because to ME it doesn't mean as much. Every time I go out to my car, I see my hard earned money and treat it nice and appreciate it. Just my $.02
2. Not going to be the easiest at that age for anything price wise (especially insurance).
3. There's just too many of these threads. Someone post a sticky with everything you should know if wanting to buy an 8... which I thought there was one.
Anyway, I got this car when I was 17. BUT I worked two jobs to pay for it all myself. Every last bit. That made me value it and appreciate it a lot more. If daddy just handed me it, I'd probably beat the **** out of it, because to ME it doesn't mean as much. Every time I go out to my car, I see my hard earned money and treat it nice and appreciate it. Just my $.02
06-19-2010, 09:21 AM
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Here is my rather long winded advice to another young guy looking to buy an RX-8 as his first car. He is definitely the except to the rule at this point. Maybe you will be to.
But at least read it. You certainly won't be any exception if you don't. People here dislike my walls of text as too much word things
https://www.rx8club.com/purchasing-financing-insurance-56/oh-temptation-196565/
But at least read it. You certainly won't be any exception if you don't. People here dislike my walls of text as too much word things
https://www.rx8club.com/purchasing-financing-insurance-56/oh-temptation-196565/
06-19-2010, 09:49 AM
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Get the Prelude. Good basic transportation, with a little more flair than an Accord. It will be much less distraction than a sports car, so you'll be able to focus more on study.
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06-19-2010, 11:09 AM
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When I first read the title of this thread, I thought, "What? They're completely different cars. Why is someone comparing these cars?" Like everyone else said, if you read up on stickies and know how to take care of the 8, go with an 8.
06-19-2010, 11:20 AM
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^I think most people deter the 8 for young drivers because 99% of the time its a matter of when, not if, for a major wreck from a young new driver. This is the reason why people suggest a beater car however being 17 and contemplating an 8 I'm sure your parents are buying it and not you, which means they dont want you to have a beater. Get the car that you want, there are positives and negatives to every car you just have to research them and determine which work for you and no one else.
This logic suggests that young drivers get a POS car - wreck it, then get a nice car after they wrecked the POS one.
06-19-2010, 11:21 AM
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Get the 8, take it to a defensive driving course/session and learn the in's and out's of RWD safety.
It's quite different from most FWD vehicles when you start to lose control. Keep DSC on and don't drive like a maniac.
It's quite different from most FWD vehicles when you start to lose control. Keep DSC on and don't drive like a maniac.
06-19-2010, 11:24 AM
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i'm going to agree with the minority here. but be sure to do lots of research. you seem down to earth and responsible enough for this car. most of the 17 year olds show up here with the "i wantz 5000hp and to go fasterz than everything with nos."
you dont seem like that kind of guy. there are two sides to this argument. get a kid a nice car and he'll wreck it. or get a kid a nice car, something he's proud of, and he'll take care of it better than his sick grandmother.
do LOTS of reading. this car does require more maintenance than trhe prulude. but if you think you can do it. go for it. i researched for about a year deciding on a car.
and mine i has been with me at college for two years now. not messed with at all. there were actually quite a few on campus.
you dont seem like that kind of guy. there are two sides to this argument. get a kid a nice car and he'll wreck it. or get a kid a nice car, something he's proud of, and he'll take care of it better than his sick grandmother.
do LOTS of reading. this car does require more maintenance than trhe prulude. but if you think you can do it. go for it. i researched for about a year deciding on a car.
and mine i has been with me at college for two years now. not messed with at all. there were actually quite a few on campus.
06-19-2010, 11:43 AM
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As I noted in the thread I linked, the only car I have ever had that got wrecked was my first one. 2.5 months after getting my license. I was in the center of an intersection, on my side of the road, waiting to turn left, and an SUV caught air off of a rise and LANDED on my car.
First cars get destroyed, through abuse, neglect, accident, or willful ignorance. We aren't saying it's the fault of the drive. **** happens. Even if they are fantastic and responsible on maintenance and care, the inexperienced are much much much less likely to be able to recognize the **** farther out and take appropriate action to dodge it.
I'm not saying everyone, but the odds are heavily against first cars surviving. We just prefer that the car they kill isn't an 8.
06-19-2010, 12:05 PM
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Actually, we aren't just suggesting it. We are stating it as a fact of overwhelming chance. First cars get wrecked.
As I noted in the thread I linked, the only car I have ever had that got wrecked was my first one. 2.5 months after getting my license. I was in the center of an intersection, on my side of the road, waiting to turn left, and an SUV caught air off of a rise and LANDED on my car.
First cars get destroyed, through abuse, neglect, accident, or willful ignorance. We aren't saying it's the fault of the drive. **** happens. Even if they are fantastic and responsible on maintenance and care, the inexperienced are much much much less likely to be able to recognize the **** farther out and take appropriate action to dodge it.
I'm not saying everyone, but the odds are heavily against first cars surviving. We just prefer that the car they kill isn't an 8.
As I noted in the thread I linked, the only car I have ever had that got wrecked was my first one. 2.5 months after getting my license. I was in the center of an intersection, on my side of the road, waiting to turn left, and an SUV caught air off of a rise and LANDED on my car.
First cars get destroyed, through abuse, neglect, accident, or willful ignorance. We aren't saying it's the fault of the drive. **** happens. Even if they are fantastic and responsible on maintenance and care, the inexperienced are much much much less likely to be able to recognize the **** farther out and take appropriate action to dodge it.
I'm not saying everyone, but the odds are heavily against first cars surviving. We just prefer that the car they kill isn't an 8.
Agree 100%
driving is just like any other skill. it takes time to develop it and most people are not going to be a naturally gifted driver. Driving is not something that necessarily comes naturally, you have to learn and until you get so many thousand miles or years under your belt you are going to be a hazard to others on the road.
06-19-2010, 12:46 PM
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Wow, you guys were model citizens at a young age.
Maybe it's because it's been only 6 years since I've graduated from high school, but I can remember just how dumb I was, and I was a pretty good student/kid by average standard.
I'm going out on a hunch and say most kids are either like me or much worse than myself in high school.
It's just teenage hormones, there's a reason why insurance rate doesn't go down until you're in your 20s, people that make up the insurance rate look at real data, not inclination which kid will be less wreckless than others.
Just because a 17 year old uses good grammar and doesn't sPeLl tHeIr WoRdZ lIkE DiSsSs, doesn't mean they have complete control over their emotions once they're behind the wheels. How you can make a determination that the OP is a good kid on an internet post is beyond me, and no offense OP, not saying you are a bad kid at all.
Look, the kid wants a quick car, so I'm not gonna tell him to get a Daewoo, but I can also tell you the RX-8 isn't what he's looking for at all despite the look and appearance of the car. The RX-8 is a driver's car, so I don't see how you can appreciate it when you've only been a driver for a year. Yes I suggested MS3 which has more HP and torque, which I know the kid wants despite his effort to sound otherwise, but it really is up to his parents whether they think he can handle the car or not. After all, they've known him for 17 years, we've known this kid since yesterday from a simple internet message board question...
Maybe it's because it's been only 6 years since I've graduated from high school, but I can remember just how dumb I was, and I was a pretty good student/kid by average standard.
I'm going out on a hunch and say most kids are either like me or much worse than myself in high school.
It's just teenage hormones, there's a reason why insurance rate doesn't go down until you're in your 20s, people that make up the insurance rate look at real data, not inclination which kid will be less wreckless than others.
Just because a 17 year old uses good grammar and doesn't sPeLl tHeIr WoRdZ lIkE DiSsSs, doesn't mean they have complete control over their emotions once they're behind the wheels. How you can make a determination that the OP is a good kid on an internet post is beyond me, and no offense OP, not saying you are a bad kid at all.
Look, the kid wants a quick car, so I'm not gonna tell him to get a Daewoo, but I can also tell you the RX-8 isn't what he's looking for at all despite the look and appearance of the car. The RX-8 is a driver's car, so I don't see how you can appreciate it when you've only been a driver for a year. Yes I suggested MS3 which has more HP and torque, which I know the kid wants despite his effort to sound otherwise, but it really is up to his parents whether they think he can handle the car or not. After all, they've known him for 17 years, we've known this kid since yesterday from a simple internet message board question...
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06-19-2010, 01:04 PM
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Just because a 17 year old uses good grammar and doesn't sPeLl tHeIr WoRdZ lIkE DiSsSs, doesn't mean they have complete control over their emotions once they're behind the wheels. How you can make a determination that the OP is a good kid on an internet post is beyond me, and no offense OP, not saying you are a bad kid at all.
06-19-2010, 01:55 PM
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Agree 100%
driving is just like any other skill. it takes time to develop it and most people are not going to be a naturally gifted driver. Driving is not something that necessarily comes naturally, you have to learn and until you get so many thousand miles or years under your belt you are going to be a hazard to others on the road.
driving is just like any other skill. it takes time to develop it and most people are not going to be a naturally gifted driver. Driving is not something that necessarily comes naturally, you have to learn and until you get so many thousand miles or years under your belt you are going to be a hazard to others on the road.
Chances are if you have had the experience of avoiding a real accident you learn something from that. Driving 100000000 miles on a freeway with no traffic or issues doesn't really improve you at all.
I can't stress enough how great some driving courses/schools are. They PURPOSELY put you in a dangerous (controlled) situation to see how you react. Then they teach you how to change your reactions to avoid (if possible) the accident, or at the very least - minimize the damage to yourself and others.
I learned more in a three day road course than I have driving 100k+ miles.
06-19-2010, 01:57 PM
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1. Not a practical first car if daddy's buying. (No sense of value, won't give a f*ck)
2. Not going to be the easiest at that age for anything price wise (especially insurance).
3. There's just too many of these threads. Someone post a sticky with everything you should know if wanting to buy an 8... which I thought there was one.
Anyway, I got this car when I was 17. BUT I worked two jobs to pay for it all myself. Every last bit. That made me value it and appreciate it a lot more. If daddy just handed me it, I'd probably beat the **** out of it, because to ME it doesn't mean as much. Every time I go out to my car, I see my hard earned money and treat it nice and appreciate it. Just my $.02
2. Not going to be the easiest at that age for anything price wise (especially insurance).
3. There's just too many of these threads. Someone post a sticky with everything you should know if wanting to buy an 8... which I thought there was one.
Anyway, I got this car when I was 17. BUT I worked two jobs to pay for it all myself. Every last bit. That made me value it and appreciate it a lot more. If daddy just handed me it, I'd probably beat the **** out of it, because to ME it doesn't mean as much. Every time I go out to my car, I see my hard earned money and treat it nice and appreciate it. Just my $.02
It's just fun.
06-19-2010, 02:06 PM
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Well not to say it's not meant for that either, to an extent of course. But driving ruthlessly could also go along with that. It's a very fun car and very easy to speed in. Plus not to mention every civic or little ricer you see wants to race every time they see you. The temptation for trouble is so great with this car, you just have to make sure you are responsible enough for it as an owner.
06-19-2010, 03:23 PM
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Thanx for the advice guys..@Rayan2008 that's a good obesrevation..although i kno how to appreciate things..I worked for the things i wanted but also was never in need of anything..Trust me my dad isnt just GIVING this car to me haha..I have to work for it, pay for it, show him im responsible at school, home and on the road..I can see how yall would see me as this young kid who wants to look cool in an rx-8 and wants to show it off..no thats not my reason for trying to get one..I want a realible car a nice looking one and also one that will satisfy me performance wise..I do not plan on beating it up by anymeans..come on now a nice car thats little less than 15k has to be treated very good...
Here's one thing I just wanted to bring up..even if you know how to drive and have experience does not garuntee that you will not get in a wreck..it may increase the precentage a little but that's no means of excluding me out..My dad has drilled and talked to me over and over about showing me how to drive smart and defensively..He hasnt gotten into any wrecks or had any speeding tickets..not because he a perfect driver or he doesnt speed..it's beause he knows to drive defensively and knows to speed when and where..I know for a FACT that learning to drive is more than just hopping in a car and going no it's much more than that..you got to be able to manuever the traffic safely and pay attention to signs not just roads signs but signs of other drivers and road conditions..luckily I started learning to drive at an early age to learn a little about those..Well i strayed away from my point haha..but i do appreciate all the help you guys have given me and i will continue to search the forum for helping me make a choice..
Here's one thing I just wanted to bring up..even if you know how to drive and have experience does not garuntee that you will not get in a wreck..it may increase the precentage a little but that's no means of excluding me out..My dad has drilled and talked to me over and over about showing me how to drive smart and defensively..He hasnt gotten into any wrecks or had any speeding tickets..not because he a perfect driver or he doesnt speed..it's beause he knows to drive defensively and knows to speed when and where..I know for a FACT that learning to drive is more than just hopping in a car and going no it's much more than that..you got to be able to manuever the traffic safely and pay attention to signs not just roads signs but signs of other drivers and road conditions..luckily I started learning to drive at an early age to learn a little about those..Well i strayed away from my point haha..but i do appreciate all the help you guys have given me and i will continue to search the forum for helping me make a choice..
06-19-2010, 03:47 PM
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rx8 was my first car. saved up every penny i had. graduation, jobs, birthday money growing up, etc.. i wanted to get the car I wanted. took months to find the right car. test drove everything from wrx's to civic si's and even a yaris. go test drive some cars and compare em. buy what feels right to YOU.
oh and be responsible! i'm sure you will since you are paying a portion. usually when kids wreck their new expensive car its because mom and dad will pay out of their pocket for a brand new one right after they put it through a wall.
oh and be responsible! i'm sure you will since you are paying a portion. usually when kids wreck their new expensive car its because mom and dad will pay out of their pocket for a brand new one right after they put it through a wall.
06-19-2010, 04:22 PM
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