No one told me how BAD it drives....
03-09-2005, 02:57 PM
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Coincidentally, my last car was an Oldsmobile Alero.
Originally Posted by No More Oldsmobiles
My dealer did not say one word to me about this. I did my own research and found out about it.
Not everyone who is buying an 8 is coming from a background with performance cars. There are even some idiots who buy this car having driven nothing but FWD Oldsmobiles for the past ten years.
And there are cars in this class that come with all-season tires, stock.
It's easy to look down on those who weren't aware of the problem while thinking about this car. But if we all knew everything there is to know about the 8, there would be no reason for this board.
I think dealers are afraid to tell prospective buyers not to drive it in snow with the stock tires, figuring it might scare off potential buyers. But we all know this car is dangerous on snow in stock tires. It's not enough for the dealer just to say "be careful." That implies you can drive it in the snow exercising proper caution.
Not everyone who is buying an 8 is coming from a background with performance cars. There are even some idiots who buy this car having driven nothing but FWD Oldsmobiles for the past ten years.
And there are cars in this class that come with all-season tires, stock.
It's easy to look down on those who weren't aware of the problem while thinking about this car. But if we all knew everything there is to know about the 8, there would be no reason for this board.
I think dealers are afraid to tell prospective buyers not to drive it in snow with the stock tires, figuring it might scare off potential buyers. But we all know this car is dangerous on snow in stock tires. It's not enough for the dealer just to say "be careful." That implies you can drive it in the snow exercising proper caution.
03-09-2005, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fredw1
And they should tell you to obey the speed limit, use your seatbelts,
And Mazda does tell you to check the oil every second fill-up, let it warm up before shutting it off, etc.
My point is where does dealer responsibility end and owner responsibility begin?
03-09-2005, 03:40 PM
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I've never ever ever warned anyone about snakes or aligators. and I grew up in Louisiana and now live in florida. AND is spend plenty of time in rural areas. They should know better.
Originally Posted by No More Oldsmobiles
"They" do tell you this -- when you get a license or take driver's ed.
And Mazda does tell you to check the oil every second fill-up, let it warm up before shutting it off, etc.
Let me put it this way. If you lived in a place where there are rattlesnakes or copperheads, and your cousin visited from a place without snakes, would you warn your cousin about their presence -- or just assume that everyone knows to watch out for snakes?
And Mazda does tell you to check the oil every second fill-up, let it warm up before shutting it off, etc.
Let me put it this way. If you lived in a place where there are rattlesnakes or copperheads, and your cousin visited from a place without snakes, would you warn your cousin about their presence -- or just assume that everyone knows to watch out for snakes?
03-09-2005, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by guy321
I've never ever ever warned anyone about snakes or aligators. and I grew up in Louisiana and now live in florida. AND is spend plenty of time in rural areas. They should know better.
03-09-2005, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by beefyjoe
But I thought the snow was over!
I'll get the snow tires next season, I said.
The ride was damn scary- I kissed the ground when I got home.
I'll get the snow tires next season, I said.
The ride was damn scary- I kissed the ground when I got home.
No Stability Control?
And any lightweight rear drive vehicle will be a handfull in the snow. Try driving a Miata in the snow.
I haven't had to drive my RX8 in the swow yet- knock on wood.
03-09-2005, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BRealistic
No Stability Control?
And any lightweight rear drive vehicle will be a handfull in the snow. Try driving a Miata in the snow.
I haven't had to drive my RX8 in the swow yet- knock on wood.
And any lightweight rear drive vehicle will be a handfull in the snow. Try driving a Miata in the snow.
I haven't had to drive my RX8 in the swow yet- knock on wood.
03-09-2005, 06:54 PM
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I drove from Somerset County to Ocean County in New Jersey in that same storm, about 75 miles. I think the snow crews that salt the roads got blindsided by this storm because it was in the 60's the day before. They were not prepared and had to play catch up all day.
But I had changed out my stock tires to Pirelli PZero Nero M+S in January. I couldn't believe how stable the car was on both ice and snow. Much better than the stocks and even better than some of the other cars out ther that I saw slipping and sliding their way down the road.
Definitely the tires that are the factor here, not the car. FYI - I have a base 8 with no Traction Control.
But I had changed out my stock tires to Pirelli PZero Nero M+S in January. I couldn't believe how stable the car was on both ice and snow. Much better than the stocks and even better than some of the other cars out ther that I saw slipping and sliding their way down the road.
Definitely the tires that are the factor here, not the car. FYI - I have a base 8 with no Traction Control.
03-09-2005, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotorRX8
how about when its raining?
how does the car handle in the rain with the stock tires?
how does the car handle in the rain with the stock tires?
03-10-2005, 06:40 AM
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Ouch! - no one told this guy how bad it drives WITH STOCK SUMMER TIRES either: http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index....7582251300.xml
" Osmena, who is moving in with a brother in Nutley, landed at Newark Airport at 10 a.m. He promptly retrieved his "baby," a 2004 Mazda RX-8, from a storage facility.
Then he promptly crashed it, those grippy tires not quite grippy enough for the icy mess along Route 21 in Newark. Osmena was uninjured, but the Mazda didn't fare as well after spinning and hitting a guardrail.
"I'm really upset," Osmena said. "The damage is pretty bad." "
" Osmena, who is moving in with a brother in Nutley, landed at Newark Airport at 10 a.m. He promptly retrieved his "baby," a 2004 Mazda RX-8, from a storage facility.
Then he promptly crashed it, those grippy tires not quite grippy enough for the icy mess along Route 21 in Newark. Osmena was uninjured, but the Mazda didn't fare as well after spinning and hitting a guardrail.
"I'm really upset," Osmena said. "The damage is pretty bad." "
03-10-2005, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by allmotorRX8
how about when its raining?
how does the car handle in the rain with the stock tires?
how does the car handle in the rain with the stock tires?
03-10-2005, 09:50 AM
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[joking]
Everyone complaining about snow does realize that you don't have to live up there right? Down here in the south, we don't get that white crap. If you are gonna live in the great white north, buy a Hummer.
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Everyone complaining about snow does realize that you don't have to live up there right? Down here in the south, we don't get that white crap. If you are gonna live in the great white north, buy a Hummer.
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