Need help from a car salesman
12-10-2007, 06:28 PM
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ok then, don't lease a Honda. They charged me an arm and a leg for a slight burnhole in the seat. Then they tried to charge me the other arm and a leg for a slight dent in the bumber which was already there before I leased. It was a used second hand lease by the way. A Honda promotion for fleet cars. It sucked and I got bored with the car after 2mos. It was an accord. i ended the lease early. My bad,
12-10-2007, 06:32 PM
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You two should team up and start a dealership together. You got something in common. ME, the customer. Hope ya'all feel better now.
12-10-2007, 06:32 PM
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C,mon, you don't think we see through this. You told us very little. Try telling them that auction prices are only for registered dealers. Tell them that they can not come on your lot and buy an rx8 for auction prices. Tell them you trade by aution prices but sell at full retail. Tell them no private seller will sell his car(any car) at auction prices unless it's stolen or missing an engine. Tell us how dealers have two separate sets of rules when buying and selling. Tell us how much more profit dealers make than private sellers selling the same car. Tell us how private sellers will always undercut a dealers price by thousands. Tell them aution prices do not set public selling prices. TELL THEM. Your family is not hurting. Some day you will be a dealership owner and so will your son or daughter. Big bussiness.
Calm down, or you might not enjoy driving that RX8 anymore. Take a long drive along a deserted curvy road and let it out.
12-10-2007, 06:38 PM
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WTF - who pissed in your corn flakes??? Sounds like a car salesman slept with your wife, then took your daughter to Vegas and pimped her out. Sounds very personal. lol
Calm down, or you might not enjoy driving that RX8 anymore. Take a long drive along a deserted curvy road and let it out.
Calm down, or you might not enjoy driving that RX8 anymore. Take a long drive along a deserted curvy road and let it out.
12-10-2007, 06:50 PM
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You dont really think the dealer will give you anywhere near the "book" value for your car, do you? They are in the business of making money not breaking even. Sell it privately or you're going to take a beating.
Here's some reading...
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/
Here's some reading...
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/
12-10-2007, 07:22 PM
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12-10-2007, 07:23 PM
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Ive noticed a funny trend with KBB. I call it the 2g rule. Take whatever crap shoot price KBB tells you for trade in value and immediatly knock $2000 off that. Go to the dealership and I will bet they offer you that amount give or take $100.
People have to realize there is not alot of markup in most cars today. Honda Fit's only have $400 markup in them. Most mid size sedans are around $2000. Hell even a $60,000 Escalade might only have $4,000 if its loaded. The car business is not what it use to be because the major automakers do not have as big a slice of the pie as they did 20 years ago. It's much more competitive.
My biggest piece of advice is dont be affraid of the salesman. He wants to sell you a car, its what he woke up for. And if you do your homework you should easily be able to go in with a resonable price in mind. Just watch your *** in the finance office, thats where you will lose it.
People have to realize there is not alot of markup in most cars today. Honda Fit's only have $400 markup in them. Most mid size sedans are around $2000. Hell even a $60,000 Escalade might only have $4,000 if its loaded. The car business is not what it use to be because the major automakers do not have as big a slice of the pie as they did 20 years ago. It's much more competitive.
My biggest piece of advice is dont be affraid of the salesman. He wants to sell you a car, its what he woke up for. And if you do your homework you should easily be able to go in with a resonable price in mind. Just watch your *** in the finance office, thats where you will lose it.
12-10-2007, 07:54 PM
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How is the joke on him? Your the one that got made a fool by two young whipper-snappers while you looked liek the old codgery grandpa that lost his mind. Just admit you were in over your head and knew not of what you spoke, and maybe we'll keep the laughing down.
12-10-2007, 09:15 PM
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Yes and no... KBB is really jsut that poor that there isn't5 really a way to justify it... First off, there is no such thing as excellent. I will find something wrong with yoru car. Few cars are good, most are FAIR. Secondly, if you drove 20k a year or over, plan to subtract about 25% of the value, becuase your car is no retailable in any manner really. Next, multiply it by about 85%. It really depends on which parts will need to be replaced, and how much time will be spent on reconditioning the exterior.
Play a game, check a 200 model year car with 20k miles and 999k miles, the difference is a joke.
Since KBB is so universal, I used to likr to pencil my trade appraisals on them. Take KBB fair, circle it. Appraise car and get real wholesale value. Decide what I will be allowing on the car at that point. Look at trade appraisal, see where I deducted, and write repair costs and instances down to subtract until I get to my planned allowance. Sometimes I backwards calculated things for my purpose, but the thoguht was to give validity to what someone is saying, while explaining it was wrong. Kind of riding the wave into the shore, to wash back to sea, rather then crashing into it. At the same time, it was a fairly frank way of allowing people to look behind the scenes. It's not like a car is traded at $16k, washed and taken up front and sold for $22k. That's not what goes into making a car retail ready at a reputable lot.
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