Notices
RX-8 Discussion General discussion about the RX-8 that doesn't fit in one of the specialty forums.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Just realizing how horrible the RENESIS is..

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:08 PM
  #276  
nycgps's Avatar
Out of NYC
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,881
Likes: 36
From: Planet Earth
Originally Posted by rx8r3mike
ok i said i was going to leave. but i will after this. i want to leave it like this.


i only pointing out the negative sides to your car. thats its. have you never watched a car review before ? they have negative and positive sides to the review. the rx8 is slow in a straight line compared to camaros, mustangs, 370z, STI, cars like that. the rx8 does have very cool sounding engine and is very well balanced car with all some handling. am i really putting the car down ?

just think about that.
Thanks for pointing out all the negatives -------------- after I got my car for 6 years, knows pretty much inside out. yeah. great job Mr. (see pic)

Attached Thumbnails Just realizing how horrible the RENESIS is..-captain.jpg  
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:09 PM
  #277  
thew's Avatar
Thews8
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,535
Likes: 11
From: Oregon South Coast
Originally Posted by rx8r3mike
ok i said i was going to leave. but i will after this. i want to leave it like this.


i only pointing out the negative sides to your car. thats its. have you never watched a car review before ? they have negative and positive sides to the review. the rx8 is slow in a straight line compared to camaros, mustangs, 370z, STI, cars like that. the rx8 does have very cool sounding engine and is very well balanced car with all some handling. am i really putting the car down ?

just think about that.
IF you do not know how to drive a Rotary engine then you would think that.. The fact that it red lines at a Tested 12,000 RPM.. and or only 9,000 rmp for a stock car, makes a huge difference.. Those testers that drive the car like a V8 will never get any power from it.. But again.. I point out that the Rx8 keeps Winning Races !!!!.. With Real Drivers that understand the Power Band of a Rotary...
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:09 PM
  #278  
MS Addict's Avatar
Needz moar Mazdaspeed.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 641
Likes: 0
From: Mechanicsville, VA
Touche', muscle doesn't win.



Win.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:11 PM
  #279  
SayNoToPistons's Avatar
Wheels, not rims!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 68
From: LA
Originally Posted by rx8r3mike
ok it has been fun. heres how i will leave it with you guys. hehe
You are my hero. You have without a doubt inspired me to trade my RX-GAY for a Camaro.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:11 PM
  #280  
MS Addict's Avatar
Needz moar Mazdaspeed.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 641
Likes: 0
From: Mechanicsville, VA
Oh, and tell your muscle always win slogo, to this Rx8..

Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:11 PM
  #281  
Lancifer's Avatar
Lead Foot
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
From: Chelsea, MA
@NYCGPS: I too saw a Camaro on the way home from work last night and I thought about this thread. Then I promptly out drove him as he actually wanted to race me along Rt. 16. All the curves n such, he had no chance.

My favorite part was letting him get in front of me right before a curve and watching his brake lights as I then passed him while gaining speed in the curve. He couldn't catch up after that and the billion other curves on that road, then my off ramp came up. I giggled and thought about this very thread again.

Real world driving vs drag racing. I'll take real world please.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:12 PM
  #282  
SayNoToPistons's Avatar
Wheels, not rims!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 68
From: LA
OK, MS Addict. You can stop post whoring RX8 pics now.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:14 PM
  #283  
nycgps's Avatar
Out of NYC
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,881
Likes: 36
From: Planet Earth
Originally Posted by MS Addict
Oh, and tell your muscle always win slogo, to this Rx8..

but I swear 2f2f said muscle beats imports everytime? Its in a movie so it must be true !

what are you trying to show me? I don't see a Camaro in that picture ?
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:14 PM
  #284  
MS Addict's Avatar
Needz moar Mazdaspeed.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 641
Likes: 0
From: Mechanicsville, VA
Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
OK, MS Addict. You can stop post whoring RX8 pics now.
Aww, fine, haha.

At least they contributed to this thread more than our troll buddy did..
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:16 PM
  #285  
MS Addict's Avatar
Needz moar Mazdaspeed.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 641
Likes: 0
From: Mechanicsville, VA
Originally Posted by nycgps
but I swear 2f2f said muscle beats imports everytime? Its in a movie so it must be true !

what are you trying to show me? I don't see a Camaro in that picture ?
That they dominate a little harder than Camaro's.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:19 PM
  #286  
SayNoToPistons's Avatar
Wheels, not rims!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 68
From: LA
Originally Posted by MS Addict
That they dominate a little harder than Camaro's.
Like I said before. the RX8s in Grand Am share nothing in terms of structural chassis design and suspension geometry with a production RX8. The only things off an actual RX8 are the headlights and brake lights. Same goes with the Grand Am Camaros (with the exception of the LSx). If you want to prove a point, at least do it right.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:19 PM
  #287  
thew's Avatar
Thews8
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,535
Likes: 11
From: Oregon South Coast
Originally Posted by MS Addict
Aww, fine, haha.

At least they contributed to this thread more than our troll buddy did..
YUP Keep up the Good Work.. Trolls Bad.. Wankel good.. Not to be confused with the " Wanking Troll "... Bad...

hahhahah
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:20 PM
  #288  
bose's Avatar
Reginald P. Billingsly
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,915
Likes: 1
From: Taylorsville, UT
Originally Posted by rx8r3mike
o and feel free to post in the camaro threads. hahahaha a lot of people there hate jap cars. and you will be ripped on. they are just going to laugh at what i said here. cuz its funny as hell
Why the **** would we waste our time? Oh noes! Someone on internet doesn't like my car.

Of course you and all your ham fisted camaro buddies are gonna laugh at this, your all a bunch of meatheads.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:22 PM
  #289  
SayNoToPistons's Avatar
Wheels, not rims!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 68
From: LA
Guy, you know what cracks me up about this thread? We have a completely idiotic troll spewing bullshit on one end. On the other end (RX-8 if you will), we got a few certain members TRYING to prove a point, but at the same time, they are spewing the same moronic bullshit as the idiotic troll. Seriously, it doesn't help one bit. If you are going to make an attempt to argue with a troll, as least post with intelligence and factor in valid points.

Last edited by SayNoToPistons; May 13, 2011 at 01:26 PM.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:24 PM
  #290  
alnielsen's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 12,255
Likes: 8
From: Buddhist Monastery, High Himalaya Mtns. of Tibet
Why in hell do you guys let someone like this get under your skin?
He isn't going to change his mind. He isn't going to change your mind. Ignore him and let it go.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:24 PM
  #291  
thew's Avatar
Thews8
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,535
Likes: 11
From: Oregon South Coast
Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
Guy, you know what cracks me up about this thread? We have a completely idiotic troll spewing bullshit on one end. On the other end (RX-8 if you will), we got a few certain members TRYING to prove a point, but at the same time, they are spewing the some moronic bullshit as the idiotic troll. Seriously, it doesn't help one bit. If you are going to make an attempt to argue with a troll, as least post with intelligence and factor in valid points.
You are right that this is simply feeding the Troll... But at least it is getting me out of working for the day


so there is that ...
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:25 PM
  #292  
SayNoToPistons's Avatar
Wheels, not rims!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 68
From: LA
Originally Posted by alnielsen
Why in hell do you guys let someone like this get under your skin?
He isn't going to change his mind. He isn't going to change your mind. Ignore him and let it go.
I think some members share a similar mind set with the troll.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:28 PM
  #293  
RX8Soldier's Avatar
Time for boost...
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 5,414
Likes: 17
From: Canada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG3dfwEkGos
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:28 PM
  #294  
MS Addict's Avatar
Needz moar Mazdaspeed.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 641
Likes: 0
From: Mechanicsville, VA
Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
Like I said before. the RX8s in Grand Am share nothing in terms of structural chassis design and suspension geometry with a production RX8. The only things off an actual RX8 are the headlights and brake lights. Same goes with the Grand Am Camaros (with the exception of the LSx). If you want to prove a point, at least do it right.
Oh, trust me, I know the car's are completely different. I've been just joking around and having fun, because it's obviously pointless to go in depth with things when it comes to guys like him.

Ultimately, I've dealt with a decent number of actual race cars, if you will. Oval track however, but tube frame chassis cars, running very high end engines, completely custom drivetrains, the works, I know the differences. I've built three of the engines myself. Lease engines, so we weren't personally weren't allowed to know who had the engine until after they raced it, in case of favoritism.

No, it wasn't a paid job, but something I could in turn use on my resume, which helps with a real job, obviously.

It's just a blast to have fun with trolls, because you know in the end, they're going to walk away thinking they won, no matter what you do, so I just try to get some lulz in.


Ultimately though, those Rx8's do share a similar engine, which when it comes to the topic of this thread, and considering the other forms of racing using the Renesis engine, they're not a worthless engine.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Star Mazda use a version of the Renesis engine? I haven't looked, how many similarities and differences are in those?
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:33 PM
  #295  
SayNoToPistons's Avatar
Wheels, not rims!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 68
From: LA
Originally Posted by MS Addict
Oh, trust me, I know the car's are completely different. I've been just joking around and having fun, because it's obviously pointless to go in depth with things when it comes to guys like him.

Ultimately, I've dealt with a decent number of actual race cars, if you will. Oval track however, but tube frame chassis cars, running very high end engines, completely custom drivetrains, the works, I know the differences. I've built three of the engines myself. Lease engines, so we weren't personally weren't allowed to know who had the engine until after they raced it, in case of favoritism.

No, it wasn't a paid job, but something I could in turn use on my resume, which helps with a real job, obviously.

It's just a blast to have fun with trolls, because you know in the end, they're going to walk away thinking they won, no matter what you do, so I just try to get some lulz in.


Ultimately though, those Rx8's do share a similar engine, which when it comes to the topic of this thread, and considering the other forms of racing using the Renesis engine, they're not a worthless engine.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Star Mazda use a version of the Renesis engine? I haven't looked, how many similarities and differences are in those?
The rotary they were running in the ALMS LMP2 car (which now uses a MZR) was a side port 20B.. There is nothing 13B-MSP about the 20Bs in the GA GT cars. The GA GT cars use a peripheral-port.


The Star Mazda cars use a 13B-MSP, but that is the only similarity with that and an RX8.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:36 PM
  #296  
SayNoToPistons's Avatar
Wheels, not rims!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 68
From: LA
Actually, my mistake. The LMP2 car wasnt a side port either. It was a p-port. Though I believe the rotors had a similar design that a Renesis has.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:38 PM
  #297  
alnielsen's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 12,255
Likes: 8
From: Buddhist Monastery, High Himalaya Mtns. of Tibet
Originally Posted by MS Addict
Ultimately though, those Rx8's do share a similar engine, which when it comes to the topic of this thread, and considering the other forms of racing using the Renesis engine, they're not a worthless engine.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Star Mazda use a version of the Renesis engine? I haven't looked, how many similarities and differences are in those?
I would say that the Renesis has very little in common with the 20B that is used in the GA cars, other than the fact that they are both rotaries.

Yes the Star Mazda does use a tuned Renesis engine.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:38 PM
  #298  
MS Addict's Avatar
Needz moar Mazdaspeed.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 641
Likes: 0
From: Mechanicsville, VA
Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
There is almost nothing 13B-MSP in comparison with the GA GT cars. The rotary they were running in the ALMS LMP2 car was a side port 13B-MSP. The GA GT cars use a peripheral-port.


The Star Mazda cars use a 13B-MSP, but that is the only similarity with that and an RX8.
I'm talking about the actual basics, of it being a rotary engine, it still shares that, obviously. And ultimately, if you really WANTED to, you could incorporate that into the Rx8 we drive. More than a little pricey, but with the topic being one about putting the Renesis, and ultimately rotaries down, I feel a little reminder of what they're capable of, is necessary.

I know that much, they're open wheel cars, a world of difference, but, is it pretty much the exact same engine? Referring to the housings, rotors, and such. Is the intake manifold different or the same? That's what all I'm wondering, is if they're the racing organization closest to using the engine we drive ourselves.
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:40 PM
  #299  
Wallets's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
From: Wisconsin
This thread is horrible and entertaining at the same time. This guys lives of his parents and complains about the cost of modding a car when they bought his car... Can we all say that he has probably seen to many Fast and Furious Movies....
Reply
Old May 13, 2011 | 01:41 PM
  #300  
SayNoToPistons's Avatar
Wheels, not rims!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 68
From: LA
Originally Posted by MS Addict
I'm talking about the actual basics, of it being a rotary engine, it still shares that, obviously. And ultimately, if you really WANTED to, you could incorporate that into the Rx8 we drive. More than a little pricey, but with the topic being one about putting the Renesis, and ultimately rotaries down, I feel a little reminder of what they're capable of, is necessary.

I know that much, they're open wheel cars, a world of difference, but, is it pretty much the exact same engine? Referring to the housings, rotors, and such. Is the intake manifold different or the same? That's what all I'm wondering, is if they're the racing organization closest to using the engine we drive ourselves.
That is correct about the Star Mazda cars. How is this relevant to your posts of RX8s?

Even if you do use the argument that the Renesis is used in some sort of racing competition, there are a dime a dozen engines that are also used in some sort of racing competition.

Last edited by SayNoToPistons; May 13, 2011 at 01:43 PM.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:34 PM.