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Old 09-12-2007, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SportCoupe2
Here's a link with pictures of all the colors in one photo. 12K bulbs are very purple and have much less light output then factory Xenon.

http://www.ekdg.co.kr/inform/hid_color.asp
thanks, that helps a lot. I figured it was color changes, but never really though it would be substantially worse for light.
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:31 PM
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i still wanna see 13000k on an rx-8
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Originally Posted by NgoRX8
well, i'll try to explain, though im no expert. can probably have rotary rasp chime in if it gets anymore technical here, hahah....

these lights at 13000k will be very purple.

the kelvin temperature is a measure of the color. the human eye only sees part of the light spectrum, that which is known as visible light. Natural light is around 5000K (don't quote me), and provides the more intense light output to the human eye. A higher Kelvin temp shifts the color to the blue spectrum and then to purple. This corresponds to a loss in visible light.

they're not bad for seeing at nite, but they certainly aren't as good as our stock HID 4300k. purple will probably annoy some people too, cops included.
Thats pretty accurate. Also note that 12000k is approaching the ultraviolet range. This means that signs and other objects will reflect unnatural colors. Also, the glare from anything above 8000k is very intense and you'll eventually get a ticket.

Ultraviolet light is also known to cause fatigue because it forces your eyes to work harder.

Anything over 5000K will cause reduced usable light. The stock bulbs (4300K) are the brightest you can buy.

If you want whiter light, swap the projectors with a pair from the TSX.
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sorry for the late reply, been busy with school...taking 21 hours of college and working 40 hours a week is quite a busy life.

But anyways, yes they are 13000K bulbs. Ill take pics this weekend.

They are very bright. And very good at night. They show off things you thought you would never see at night.
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Originally Posted by turok4n64
They are very bright. And very good at night. They show off things you thought you would never see at night.
did you read my post at all?

"Also note that 12000k is approaching the ultraviolet range. This means that signs and other objects will reflect unnatural colors."
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Rasp
did you read my post at all?

"Also note that 12000k is approaching the ultraviolet range. This means that signs and other objects will reflect unnatural colors."

Maybe with 13,000's it reflects unnatural colors that become murals or famous over-dosed rock stars?
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
Daniel Stern is clueless on lighting and should not be ever referred too. He just is trying to sell his Halogen lights so he is a little (to put it mildly) biased.

And he doesn't even understand HID lighting. He just copies what he thinks he heard.
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Originally Posted by turok4n64

They are very bright. And very good at night. They show off things you thought you would never see at night.

Yes, turning on headlights at night tends to do that.
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really.......what's the point!?
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what ngo and rasp said are correct, but they didnt post the why. obviously, its been stated that 13k is well into the ultra violet/purple color range. the reason that sucks for the human eye is that we respond best to light in the yellow color range. and since purple is the compliment* to yellow, it is actually the worst possible light range to have installed as head lights.

*what is a color compliment? if you take equal amounts of both colors, they mix to form gray. meaing they would be directly opposite each other on a color wheel.
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