kittychester

Just receive call from Mazda dealer- my car originally scheduled for early May is not coming till end of June

DTECH-RX

Actually, according to what rx8orders and the FAQ had said about the range of time possible for each allocation, they are "on schedule":

first allocation: June-August

second allocation: July-September

third allocation: August-October

Maybe they were just trying to get production going a little earlier, but doesn't look like it's going to happen. It' just as well, I planned for pretty much the middle month of the estimate to be about right which will be September for me (supposedly third allocation) depending on what my dealer tells me today ( details in my other thread https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/have-any-third-allocation-pre-order-people-gotten-first-e-mail-mazda-yet-3832/ ).

jtdwab

DTECH is exactly right. Mazda NA has never once said May. Only dealers have bee quoting a May delivery date. Based on their time scale first orders can't worry about it being late until after August. It is possible that a first allotment car may arrive on the same boat as a third allotment car. Since they decieded not to let us track our orders we won't know their schedule until after we recieve a VIN number. I don't think anybody here knows if the reception o f a VIN number means they are about to build your car or if they picked a car built and said it was going to be yours. Either way when the VIN numbers come the cars will be in Japan or somewhere in the middle of the Pacific ocean.

I would guess that the dealers data that used to say May and now says June was never updated. The lead times were set long before they started building. If they have to change the lead time a little bit it compounds a lot later. Basicly Mazda is just now updating the dealer order system to reflect what was already planned plus whatever modification had to be made after production started full swing for Japan spec cars.

Sorry for the soap box, I am just tried of people saying without a dought that they know whats going on in Japan because their dealer said so. My dealer has been honest the whole time. He told me up front that he wouldn't know alot about the car and that I would get more info than he would about the status. I only wish Mazda NA and Mazda JP gave a more regular status report.

tripwire

My dealer keeps saying first week of May, but I have a feeling that is the "Build Date" vs "Delivery Date", so I'm not getting my hopes up... but does anyone know what the breakdown of the Order Reference Number and Request ID is?

I did a pre-order in February and everyting was great and all then my dealer calls me up the last day in March and says that they can move me up on the pre-order list so I'll get my RX8 sooner.

The "old" reference number: 2003.06.00.xxxx
The "old" request ID: 2003.02.23.xxxx.xxxx

The "new" reference number: 2003.05.00.xxxx
The "new" request ID: 2003.01.23.xxxx.xxxx

I suppose the "request id" is the date i placed the pre-order.
But what does the reference number stand for?

alarabie

Just got an unsolicited call from my dealer who says that they checked their orders on the dealer site and it indicated that they are sceduled to received the car at the end of may.

I asked him repeatedly if that was the build date or delivery date and according to him it's the delivery date.

He did not have a vin number yet.

I don't want to get my hopes up, but he was just repeating what he was reading on their order tracking site.

This is in California

zoom44

he's wrong. go to the dealer and ask him to show it too you in person.

alarabie

Why are you so sure that he is wrong, have you seen anything from Mazda that says that they are late? This weekend at Rev-It-Up the Mazda reps seem to think that they where late also, but they had not seen anything official. It seems that the dealer order site has some information, it being right and current is another matter. but that's the only information that is from Mazda and at this point is probably as good as any of the rumors out there.

RotorMotor

AHHHHHHH!!!! I can't take it anymore!!! Just about every damn thread on this site is "It'll be here in May." "No, it'll be here in July." CHRIST PEOPLE! Give it a rest. I understand that you're all excited, but let's not recycle the same f*uckin thread every 3 days!!!!!!

FACTS:

• Mazda has NEVER said May!
• Dealers, autoshow jackasses, and maybe a few Rev-it-Up croanies are all that have said May!
• We know for a fact that the autoshow bafoons, 9/10ths of the dealers out there, and probably the Rev-it-Up guys too don't have a clue!
• Most important fact: just about everybody is sick to death of the speculation!

If the car was going to be here within a month, I gaurentee you'd know about it. Somebody (Sputnik or Blue) lock this thread and kill any more that pop up, PLEASE!

gettingan8

Now now ..calm yourself. You are right, but calm...think good thoughts.

zoom44

this

plus this

plus this

plus the fact that i have been tracking every minute detail of the progress of this car for 2 years. never once has mazda said may for the U.S.

plus this from JSG in Japan

Meaning they have not yet finished initial production for the jdm yet. this from frog zapper

this from eccles
this from kyle lancaster aka n20sa22c
this autoexec article posted by elara



this email from mazda posted by rexor

if you want more there is more where that came from. let me know if you are not convinced

jdj1971

If your tired of seeing threads on this topic DONT READ THEM! Fact is the closer we get to delivery the more people are going to be talking about this. Deal with it. This is a public forum or should be anyway so let people discuss it if they want. No one's forcing you to read every friggin post. Personally I'd like to read every tidbit I can. My dealer has been far from helpful so if there's anyone out there that can inform me better than my dealer I'd love to hear it.

zoom44

unfortunately, for most dealers (maybe not yours) that would be just about everyone on this forum who has been here since before the beginning of the year, and some few who have arrived since.

RotorMotor

Ok, maybe I'm starting to **** people off and that's truly not my intention, so I'll say this one last thing and then I'll shut the hell up for the rest of the day. :D

At the time I'm posting this, a grand total of 7 out of 20 threads on the RX-8 Discussion page, are almost exclusively banter over when the car will be coming out. 33% (close enough) is a little excessive, don't you agree? Those of us that are here daily and throughout the day, find it hard to weed through all of those posts, which is why admins are usually so tight on duplicate threads. On top of that, very little of what is being said in these threads can be backed up with any proof. Most of it's "I have complete faith my car will be here no later than the second week of May". I realize I got a little out of had venting my frustration and I apologize for that, but day after day after day of the same thing gets old, especially when you're hunting for that 1 new tidbit of information that actually has some merit.

K, I'm done.

zoom44

its okay rotor motor i understand, just be mindful of new people that have not been around very long. i took it as a way to vent too but i just chose to be a bit of a smarta$$ and give a really long pointed answer instead using the anger. "how do you know he is wrong?" sheesh!!

rx8daniel

IF it HELPS anyone any - my FIRST estimated delivery date was MAY - of 2001 !! I knew then (Feb. 2001) that pretty much throughout this whole process I would know more than my dealer. Those who have said May of 2002 were hoping for a 'better' than 'best' scenario. As has been said by others and me in other threads - since Jan 8th Mazda has said June - August - so only January preorders delvivered on or after September 1st of this year can be considered "late".

zoom44

too true lol! first may 2001, then nov. 2001, then may 2002, then oct-nov 2002, then jan-feb 2003 and then finally launched at Naias when they said june thru august.:D and some people are worried about 1 month hehe. the only thing that bugs me about it now is that i am trying to plan a vacation.

Lock & Load

As for my way of thinking if the usa gets its cars later than expected australian cars may be even later, i for one dont want to take delyvery of a late 03 september october car i figure best waiting a bit longer and getting an early 04 january or february car . When it comes to upgrading your car in 3 years time in australia at least the dealers really try to screwyou when the car has an 03 delivery as to an 04 one ...I know thats a longer wait but i hate taking delivery of cars in the later months of the year..

zoom44

i don't how it will work in Oz but here in the states they all will be coming badged as 2004 cars until the production starts on 2005's next summer.

Lock & Load

One of my friends bought a Honda S2000 late november 02 paid $ 80.000 big ones he has only travelled 5300km and he cannot get more than $61.000 .he has offered the car to me ? Ufortunately i need extra seating roomso cannot take advantage of the deal once again late02 even though car has 03 specifications the dealers are really screwing him. THANKS ZOOM 44 YEAH AND ITS A PITY THAN THE YELLOW INSERTS IN THE YELLOW CAR HAVE BEEN Droped i guess i will try and get them changed later as i feel the all black leather interior will not be as nice,or give a spacious feel or fun factor to the car my dealer may compensate some of the cost.

kittychester

Sorry about creating such hullabaloo about the date. When I ordered the car in early February, I was told by my dealer that I was going to be in the second allotment coming in about July. My husband did a little negotiating we got a fair price, sent in our $500, and received a contract. Then the saleman called me and said that my order was moved to the first allotment and the car was scheduled for late May. Did not hear one word from my salesman until yesterday when he told me that they heard from Mazda and the car would be a month late. (his words not mine) I was concerned that the dealer had given my car to someone else willing to pay more and I was put into the second allotment. To get some confirmation, I called Mazda which told me that if I can get the VIN from the dealer they will tell me when the car will be produced and estimated date of arrival. With the rave reviews over the car, the car is going to very "hot" and I think dealers will be pressured to sell "your car" to others who may be willing to pay more. Consequently, I believe we need to be diligent. While I knew there were threads about when the car was due in- it was most speculation. I had actually been called by my dealer.

zoom44

and how were you supposed to do that when the vin's haven't been assigned yet? that was pretty poor on mazda's part

kittychester

I figure that the dealer must have received VIN numbers when he was sent the delivery data from MAZDA. I have not asked him for it yet.

rx8daniel

The VIN will only be assigned at the time your car actually begins production. Most Mazda folks will be able to give you the status using the VIN once that point has been achieved - whoever said 'send me the VIN' probably wasn't thinking 'RX-8' just generic 'Mazda' since other models are in constant production. You usually have to take what a salesperson says with a grain of salt - they will generally want their customer waiting to buy a car that it will be here on the early side of the range - because they probably think (and they're sometimes right) that the customer may give up and buy something else. Most of us dedicated to buying the RX-8 will be patient whether the salesperson tells us "early May","late May" or "June-August" because we'll simply wait (and we already know the truth regardless of whether they know and don't want to tell or simply don't know).
My best guess now is for my Jan preorder to arrive sometime July - don't want to try to guess early or late - but... it could be August!

lefuton

good gracious i thought you were talking USD for a second there