Hurricane Wilma Keyed my Shinka. x.x
11-29-2005, 02:55 PM
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Hurricane Wilma Keyed my Shinka. x.x
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Hurricane Wilma keyed my car. On the driver's side of the roof, all the way back, where the C-pillar is. No dents, just took paint off right down to bare metal. This had to be a roofing tile.. that stuff feels like 20-grit sandpaper. The area is about 8" x 12", roughly in an oval, most of it on the actuall roof, and just a li'l bit past the roof trim and into the c-pillar.
A tree also damn near flattened the car.. it missed, but a branch whacked the passenger side main door, right at the rocker panel.. at the very bottom.
I've been to 3 different bodyshops (1 dealer, 2 independants) and all three want to paint the entire roof and c-pillar, and the entire pax. door.
Are they jivin' me?! What happened to the artistry of a good spot-fix?
This really has put a dent in me, I'm a believer that once you respray the car (or a good chunk of it) it's not the same car anymore, and never will be. This is the first time I've faced this -- my Rx 7and Miata both had the same paint they left Hiroshima with, right to the very last day I had 'em.. and now my 8 will never have that same claim.
I guess I can live with this, but... arrgh. Why couldn't it happen to the POS Mitsu Mirage I had back in the day? Why this one? *mumble*
So.. does anyone in Ft Lauderdale have a tip for a good body shop that's not Impact Body or Broward Collision? (Those are the two indies I mentioned before.) Someone who'll at least entertain the notion of a spot-repair vs. respraying entire panels...
Hurricane Wilma keyed my car. On the driver's side of the roof, all the way back, where the C-pillar is. No dents, just took paint off right down to bare metal. This had to be a roofing tile.. that stuff feels like 20-grit sandpaper. The area is about 8" x 12", roughly in an oval, most of it on the actuall roof, and just a li'l bit past the roof trim and into the c-pillar.
A tree also damn near flattened the car.. it missed, but a branch whacked the passenger side main door, right at the rocker panel.. at the very bottom.
I've been to 3 different bodyshops (1 dealer, 2 independants) and all three want to paint the entire roof and c-pillar, and the entire pax. door.
Are they jivin' me?! What happened to the artistry of a good spot-fix?
This really has put a dent in me, I'm a believer that once you respray the car (or a good chunk of it) it's not the same car anymore, and never will be. This is the first time I've faced this -- my Rx 7and Miata both had the same paint they left Hiroshima with, right to the very last day I had 'em.. and now my 8 will never have that same claim.
I guess I can live with this, but... arrgh. Why couldn't it happen to the POS Mitsu Mirage I had back in the day? Why this one? *mumble*So.. does anyone in Ft Lauderdale have a tip for a good body shop that's not Impact Body or Broward Collision? (Those are the two indies I mentioned before.) Someone who'll at least entertain the notion of a spot-repair vs. respraying entire panels...
12-01-2005, 09:35 AM
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can't help you out, just wanted to say damn that sucks, although the damage does sound intersting. things that happen in tornados and hurricanes are crazy. have any pictures?
12-01-2005, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by missinmahseven
This really has put a dent in me, I'm a believer that once you respray the car (or a good chunk of it) it's not the same car anymore, and never will be.
See my thread - https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/hit-deer-5-week-anniversary-76587/
When we both have our cars back maybe we can start a joint thread to discuss 'are they the same car, are they a good car'.
Perspective aside, I am sorry to hear about your damage - I know it's quite a blow to have a fine car senselessly maimed.
Originally Posted by missinmahseven
A tree also damn near flattened the car.. it missed, but a branch whacked the passenger side main door, right at the rocker panel.. at the very bottom.
Another example of cars that *really* aren't the same afterwards.
After that my wife and I made sure to park away from the trees and never side-by-side.
Allright - OT stories aside - I wish you the best in finding a body shop for quality repair work. I'm using one with their own BASF paint mixing equipment which offers a lifetime warrenty on workmanship.
12-01-2005, 12:26 PM
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Is the Dark Cherry color on the Shinka's a pearlescent paint? I painted for a Ford assembly plant for a while using BASF paint and the Mystic paint and the other color (forgot the BASF name) are very hard to match in a small area. Old metal flake paint or Mica paint looked different because the flakes just layed down in the paint. To get the metal flake or Mica flakes to act right on the newer pearl colors, the paint is electrostatically charged and it makes the paint flakes stand up or sit at many different angles and that gives you the color change effect. So if you have a pearl paint, they would have to use an electrostatic gun to paint it to match and that is hard to do in a small area and have it look right.
Of course, all that info is useless if you have normal paint. If you do, they should be able to match it much easier in a small area without painting a large area. I used to do it a few hundred times a shift at Ford. I painted F-150's, F-250's, Ford Contours, Mercury Mystiques, Ford Escapes, and Mazda Tributes in my time as a painter. Everything from entire vehicles, to repair areas as small as a penny.
Good luck.
Of course, all that info is useless if you have normal paint. If you do, they should be able to match it much easier in a small area without painting a large area. I used to do it a few hundred times a shift at Ford. I painted F-150's, F-250's, Ford Contours, Mercury Mystiques, Ford Escapes, and Mazda Tributes in my time as a painter. Everything from entire vehicles, to repair areas as small as a penny.
Good luck.
12-01-2005, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Glyphon
can't help you out, just wanted to say damn that sucks, although the damage does sound intersting. things that happen in tornados and hurricanes are crazy. have any pictures?
I was a usaf meterologist.. weather can indeed do some really strange things.. like a piece of straw embedded point-first into a tree. (!) And that was just a little F2 twister in Alabama.. that piece of straw will always stay in my mind
Wilma was a twister-popper. You could tell just by looking at the damage.. not the uniform, spread-out damage you'd expect form a hurricane, instead, you had a lot of nonsensical, random destruction.. one house'd be fine, the next would be fine, the next, matchsticks.. and the one next over, not a single scratch. o.O
12-01-2005, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cool-Blue-Dad
Not the same? Perhaps, but some folks want non-OEM colors and they respray the entire car first thing just to get a unique car. You have to make peace with your own feelings yourself, but I think as long as you have a nice car in good condition (and nice insurance coverage) you should have no worries after the repairs are complete.
Preferrably with a very large-bore rifle.... 
My problem is I grew up around classic cars from the 30's onward.. the area I lived in had a lot of Puerto Rico's car nuts.. in that environment, a 30-year old car with the original paint still shining and intact, with original chrome is looked upon far more favorably than say a respray or a frame-off...
I was SO proud of my Miata.. I put every single mile of it's almost 200,000 over a span of 10 years.. the paint was almost flawless, and she still shone like a pretty jewel.. till some idiot in a Tacoma hit 'er from behind and bent her 3 ways to hell.. I was prouder of that Miata the older she got!
That's what burns me.. because of my lack of foresight (not getting a car cover, after having Wilma hovering near us for a week or more), I'll never be able to say down the road.."Yup, that's all original paint.."
But.. having her door and roof resprayed will not diminish my love for her, nor will it diminish my desire to keep her. That much I figured out between writing the original post, and this reply to you.
12-01-2005, 06:38 PM
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^ Goodluck getting it painted. If that Cherry Mica is anywhere near as bad as Whitewater Pearl then you're in for some fun. I've now had my rear bumper sprayed 3 times and it has matched 0 times. Just make sure you don't accept anything less than perfect.
12-01-2005, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rempsonx8
Is the Dark Cherry color on the Shinka's a pearlescent paint? I painted for a Ford assembly plant for a while using BASF paint and the Mystic paint and the other color (forgot the BASF name) are very hard to match in a small area. Old metal flake paint or Mica paint looked different because the flakes just layed down in the paint. To get the metal flake or Mica flakes to act right on the newer pearl colors, the paint is electrostatically charged and it makes the paint flakes stand up or sit at many different angles and that gives you the color change effect. So if you have a pearl paint, they would have to use an electrostatic gun to paint it to match and that is hard to do in a small area and have it look right.
12-01-2005, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Zuhalter Vati
Painting the whole panel sounds right...no insurance against hurricanes?
The reason they want to paint it all is to get the blending correct. Its pretty common practice.
The reason they want to paint it all is to get the blending correct. Its pretty common practice.
For blending, yeah, that's what they tell me too.. every single one I've talked to. I just never trust *anything* any merchant / service provider tells me at face value. Been burnt once too many
12-01-2005, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by QBallz
^ Goodluck getting it painted. If that Cherry Mica is anywhere near as bad as Whitewater Pearl then you're in for some fun. I've now had my rear bumper sprayed 3 times and it has matched 0 times. Just make sure you don't accept anything less than perfect.
The Black Cherry doesn't look like pearl... it looks like a hi-density metalflake .. well, mica actually. But nothing as strange as that white pearl. Or the Montego Blue the Miatas had back in the day.. another horrible color to try and match
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Originally Posted by missinmahseven
I saw that Pearl White when the 05's first came in... very beautiful... and just looking at it I knew that color would be almost impossible to properly match..
The Black Cherry doesn't look like pearl... it looks like a hi-density metalflake .. well, mica actually. But nothing as strange as that white pearl. Or the Montego Blue the Miatas had back in the day.. another horrible color to try and match
The Black Cherry doesn't look like pearl... it looks like a hi-density metalflake .. well, mica actually. But nothing as strange as that white pearl. Or the Montego Blue the Miatas had back in the day.. another horrible color to try and match
I bought a Whitewater Pearl '05 about 3 weeks ago. It had an extremely tiny chip just below the front license plate frame.
Once I saw the color, I had to have it. It's amazing to see in the sunlight or direct flourenscent light at night. I had to have it and the chipped one was the only one around. There were other colors in perfect shape, but I couldn't pass on it. Not to mention it had the exact equipment I would have ordered. They offered to TRY and respray it to match, but I knew better and just had them blot a dot of touch-up Whitewater Pearl on it. Can't even tell now.
I saw a Cherry Mica on a high-end Mazda 6 a few days ago. Looks like it would be hard to match if it's the same color. But not as hard as the Whitewater Pearl. Hope it turns out okay.
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