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Old 05-13-2010, 03:08 PM
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I replaced the sparkplugs when I first purchased the car 1,000 miles ago. Do you think with only 3k miles i need to replace my coils at all and my plugs again?
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^ haha. I am OCD, I log each gas receipt, mileage, etc. on a spreadsheet and I average 13-14MPG with a heavy foot and most of that is city driving. This is on a new engine, new plugs, BHR coils from the get, 5W-40 synthetic, and Shell 93 only on 245/40-18 tires. But, when I go to my parents house (170 miles each way) I average 20MPG if I use the cruise and stay 80MPH or under.
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Originally Posted by Huey52
I'm at 4k rpm in 6th (overdrive) at 80 mph. The two 'extra' ignition ports open at/above 5k rpm (at least according to my 'butt dyno'). Overdrive is supposed to facilitate more fuel efficient highway driving.

However I rarely go 80 or below in my early morn commutes.

Of course for optimal fuel efficiency you should never break 3k rpm nor 50 mph. But then why have an RX-8???
if you would have looked at dyno you would at least known that it opens some where around 4,000 rpms.

I wish Mazda would have made 6 gear taller just for cruzing and fuel economy, so i could do 75mph at 3.5k (although it would be problem for those who live in 60mph speed limit states - when trying to pass)
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Originally Posted by Ztriumph
I replaced the sparkplugs when I first purchased the car 1,000 miles ago. Do you think with only 3k miles i need to replace my coils at all and my plugs again?
How many miles on it? Plugs are recommended to be changed 25-35k mi by manufacturers - expecialy true for rx8 (also depends on if you race it)

Coils often can be seen degrading at 30k mi - still function ok for DD driving but bad top end. If you push your car hard - depending on your heat cycles - they can go sooner.
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I average 13 MPG..which is pretty bad.
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Originally Posted by eneums
Hi everyone

I've had my RX8 for about 6 days now and I love it....however....I've already filled it up twice, and it's due for another fill up today.

I'm getting maaaybe 14-15mpg. I've been at cruise control on the hwy, set at 68. I've done very little driving around town. I have a killer commute (70 mi each way), so I expect to spend a lot of money on gas. Yea, this wasn't the most practical car

My point isn't that I'm spending a stupid amount on gas—that was a given. My issues is simply the mileage itself. I figured I'd be averaging 20.

Is there anything in particular that could be influencing gas mileage that much? What should I do?

My future husband has a Prius, but this isn't balancing out as much as I was hoping it would

Thanks for your input!
So, let me get this straight. You bought an RX-8, your Dad and brother race dragsters, and you're gonna marry a guy that drives a Prius? I'm pretty sure you shouldn't marry that guy but can't say for sure without seeing some pics (of you, not the guy).

Now, WRT your poor mileage, I see you have a 2004 with 28k miles so if you don't know if the previous owner changed the plugs and coils, do that first, clean your MAF sensor (easy, there's a thread around here showing exactly how to do it), pull the room fuse, and if you're still getting such lousy mileage, consider getting a compression test at a Mazda dealer.

Good luck (and don't forget the pics)!
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Originally Posted by Ztriumph
I have a 2008 rx8 AE edition with 6 speed manual. car has 2,900 miles on it, I use premium fuel, 5-20w oil, etc.

I am lucky to get 16 mpg on the highway. I clock every fill-up and note the miles/gallons thinking my calculations are off, however it is the same every time. I generally cruise between 80-85 on the highway, however I did not see a huge improvement when I tried, painfully, to drive at 70...
I have the same car with 7,800 miles on it. I get 18 mpg mostly light city driving and on a recent road trip got 21.5 mpg all highway with some low hills.
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SHE, actually, I'm a girl

But anyway, yea, trust me, I've done my research. Just because I have only
owned it for a short time doesn't mean I have no clue what's going on. I know I need to do the coils. I do use premium fuel (I always did on my Protege MP3) so i'm in the habit. I picked up some 5w20 for when I change my oil.

I just came on asking everyone their opinion because despite my bank of rotary research since my 04 dream car was announced, I wanted to get some feedback from drivers. So thanks so far, everyone.

I just filled up again and I'll track my mileage until I fuel up again.

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seeing as he has owned the car for only 6 days (well, 7 now), i doubt he knows a whole lot about the maintenance history. common things to check would be coils and plugs if you are truly getting that mileage on the highway. i have heard people mention how their highway mileage improved after new coils and plugs.

i get 15-16 mpg average but i do mostly city driving and it is usually only 10 miles at a time since i live close to downtown. if i am driving only on the highway, i can easily get 22-23 mpg without really trying.

it sounds like it would be worth getting checked out and to verify all applicable recalls have been performed.
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ah sorry, i didn't see leg humping in the thread so i just assumed

i was just saying that you might not know when the last time plugs and coils have been replaced (if ever) since you just got the car. glad to see that you've done some research.
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Will recalibrate same.

Originally Posted by zoom44
your butt dyno is wrong.
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posts 8 & 9

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=3750
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No that's cool, it's good advice. I mean that I saw all the service records on the CarFax sheet. It was very well-taken care of by the previous owner—everything is documented.


Originally Posted by mbentley
ah sorry, i didn't see leg humping in the thread so i just assumed

i was just saying that you might not know when the last time plugs and coils have been replaced (if ever) since you just got the car. glad to see that you've done some research.
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Is it true that I should replace the ignition starter/coils/spark plugs with those from the 09-10 model?
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The coils/plugs from '04-'10 if IIRC, are the same. The starters I believe are the same also but I could be wrong. You don't need an '09-'10 version, just new ones in general.
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Yes, this car almost ended our relationship (he's a 9th grade science teacher/ eco freak), but I told him that if I got it I wouldn't ever want to put a car seat in an RX 8 so he cut his losses and realized that if he shut his mouth and let me get the car he'd buy himself a few extra years before fatherhood

http://gallery.me.com/eneums#100108

^pics of the car. none of me with it yet, but soon!

Originally Posted by robrecht
So, let me get this straight. You bought an RX-8, your Dad and brother race dragsters, and you're gonna marry a guy that drives a Prius? I'm pretty sure you shouldn't marry that guy but can't say for sure without seeing some pics (of you, not the guy).

Now, WRT your poor mileage, I see you have a 2004 with 28k miles so if you don't know if the previous owner changed the plugs and coils, do that first, clean your MAF sensor (easy, there's a thread around here showing exactly how to do it), pull the room fuse, and if you're still getting such lousy mileage, consider getting a compression test at a Mazda dealer.

Good luck (and don't forget the pics)!
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starters have progressed to stronger and faster models. There are several threads about replacing the starter.
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all the folks with the gas mileage threads should be pointed in a few directions. basic, data and research based threads on a few different topics that cover some of the more common thing that help/hurt mpg:

1) Your current PCM flash(be it OE or other) - see recent postings HERE concerning OE fuel map richness
2) The condition and capabilities of your coils/wires/plugs ?
3) Condition of your MAF sensor, and possibly in relation some "oil in intake" basics ?
4) Condition of your catalytic convertor ?
5) Compression testing (even new Mazda motors aren't always great) ?
6) possibly links to the half dozen or more in-depth discussions on the subject already?


if anyone want to throw some ideas out for threads for those other factors i haven't linked, maybe we can make some sort of link depository to send folks to where they can directly access all the basics and pertinent discussion, without having to search or look or anything crazy
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You mean Stickies?
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Originally Posted by eneums
Yes, this car almost ended our relationship (he's a 9th grade science teacher/ eco freak), but I told him that if I got it I wouldn't ever want to put a car seat in an RX 8
really? I bought the RX-8 AS my family car I brought both of my boys home after their births in the RX-8. I do the grocery shopping in it and take them with me
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Originally Posted by zoom44
really? I bought the RX-8 AS my family car I brought both of my boys home after their births in the RX-8. I do the grocery shopping in it and take them with me
Yeah, I did too. Funny thing is, both of my little guys still much prefer to ride in the Miata. They can see out much better, top down, and of course it special Daddy time because only one of them can come with me at a time. We crank up "Life is a Highway" from the movie Cars and have a great old time.
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ya know that song was around before cars? right? Tom Cochrane in 90 or 91

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCPbL4yA7ik
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Originally Posted by zoom44
ya know that song was around before cars? right? Tom Cochrane in 90 or 91
Actually, I didn't know that, but my son has the timing for the Rascal Flatt 'yell' at the beginning perfectly memorized:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvsmR...eature=related
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at the end of they day you're the one spending that money...If its hurting the pockets you gotta hop on a hybrid or turbo diesel.
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Originally Posted by boizart1
at the end of they day you're the one spending that money...If its hurting the pockets you gotta hop on a hybrid or turbo diesel.
hybrid no just hell no turbo diesel maybe but only an older model that does not have th useless smog **** on it


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