Forced induction owners - please post your times
05-07-2008, 11:58 PM
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I hate to say it, but superglue does have a point, though I believe only to a limited extent.
If you have a stock RX-8 that can run 14.3 for example, than if you buy a turbo kit, you want it to show up in the 1/4 mile. So getting say 13.5 to high 13s out of the kit can cause people issues, well unless you stock car could never get low 14s to begin with.
An FI car running in the 12s, just makes for a better argument to get that FI kit.
Another thing is the 1/4 mile is indicative of what your kit can do in a straight line. When you start dropping 4K to 8K on a FI kit on the RX-8, it is often because you want straight line performance. We already know that the RX-8 handles great and does well on turns, so that is not the point of the FI kit. Also, dyno graphs are nice, but the 1/4 mile is a "real world" demonstration.
If you have a stock RX-8 that can run 14.3 for example, than if you buy a turbo kit, you want it to show up in the 1/4 mile. So getting say 13.5 to high 13s out of the kit can cause people issues, well unless you stock car could never get low 14s to begin with.
An FI car running in the 12s, just makes for a better argument to get that FI kit.
Another thing is the 1/4 mile is indicative of what your kit can do in a straight line. When you start dropping 4K to 8K on a FI kit on the RX-8, it is often because you want straight line performance. We already know that the RX-8 handles great and does well on turns, so that is not the point of the FI kit. Also, dyno graphs are nice, but the 1/4 mile is a "real world" demonstration.
13 seconds with a greddy kit running roughly 7 psi. Thats impressive to me, watch mysqls vids on youtube.
05-08-2008, 02:02 AM
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Why does everything go back to 1/4 miles times with this car? Its easy to talk **** but over an ENTIRE SECOND on a quarter mile is A LOT!!!! Okay, so 4K to make an RX8 a 13 second car. Thats where it ends huh? What about how much better an RX8 will do on a track with more power? What about how much faster itll accelerate, WHAT ABOUT THE EXTRA TORQUE!!?!?!?
13 seconds with a greddy kit running roughly 7 psi. Thats impressive to me, watch mysqls vids on youtube.
13 seconds with a greddy kit running roughly 7 psi. Thats impressive to me, watch mysqls vids on youtube.
What about all of that torque? What about having to keep all of that power on the ground, or stopping all of that power? Taking it to the track? Now you're talking even more money to have a track prepared turbo RX-8. That is, unless you don't plan on having your set up dialed in and you just slap on a turbo and call it a track car. The added cost of parts and maintenance is now making it even less appealing.
With just slapping on a turbo kit and driving around town you could at least keep everything else relatively stock, but since you want to bring up track events, now you need the components to keep the extra power on the pavement. Now you have a nice track machine that lost most of it's it's daily drivability appeal. I hope you win some money at the track to pay for all those go fast parts.
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05-08-2008, 03:12 AM
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u probably should also be interested in how many miles their engines run before needing replacement... or also, how many times they've had to get new engines. that's the sad reality of it. so, the real question is, is it worth it to have to get a new engine after 20k miles? 30k miles, 50k miles? and, how much are u willing to pay?
05-08-2008, 12:53 PM
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And spending $4K for a 100hp kick just to run as fast as some of my other cars with just exhaust+tune is not worth it. I guess I'm just ignorant and don't know how OMGWTFamazing a 13 second turbo 8 would be 
05-08-2008, 04:08 PM
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Cool, I'm saving money left and right. Jeez, if only I knew what it was like to own and drive turbocharged cars... wait, I do And spending $4K for a 100hp kick just to run as fast as some of my other cars with just exhaust+tune is not worth it. I guess I'm just ignorant and don't know how OMGWTFamazing a 13 second turbo 8 would be
And spending $4K for a 100hp kick just to run as fast as some of my other cars with just exhaust+tune is not worth it. I guess I'm just ignorant and don't know how OMGWTFamazing a 13 second turbo 8 would be
05-08-2008, 07:49 PM
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personally, all the 8 owners with FI's i've talked to have all had their engine replaced at least 1x. i think it's easy to say that it shouldn't happen if it's setup/ tuned properly. but, the reality is that they may think they have it setup properly, or they later on get greedy and want more power out of it. <shrugs>
05-08-2008, 07:52 PM
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personally, all the 8 owners with FI's i've talked to have all had their engine replaced at least 1x. i think it's easy to say that it shouldn't happen if it's setup/ tuned properly. but, the reality is that they may think they have it setup properly, or they later on get greedy and want more power out of it. <shrugs>
05-08-2008, 08:06 PM
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05-08-2008, 09:00 PM
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Actually... If you do a search.. the fastest anyone has gone (at least that I've seen) in a straight line NA is low 15s... so 4-8 grand for 2 seconds is really what you're looking at... Not to mention the 8 grand greddy turbo kit gives you everything you need (except tranny upgrades) to run 400 hp... So um... Thats like... Eating up Crazy *** cars... and Quite certainly faster than 13 flat...
Its an investment... but at 400 hp... think what your top speed would be... We can run 160-170mph now... at 230 hp... almost double that...
Uh... I'd definately say Its worth the money.
Its an investment... but at 400 hp... think what your top speed would be... We can run 160-170mph now... at 230 hp... almost double that...
Uh... I'd definately say Its worth the money.
05-08-2008, 09:14 PM
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Actually... If you do a search.. the fastest anyone has gone (at least that I've seen) in a straight line NA is low 15s... so 4-8 grand for 2 seconds is really what you're looking at... Not to mention the 8 grand greddy turbo kit gives you everything you need (except tranny upgrades) to run 400 hp... So um... Thats like... Eating up Crazy *** cars... and Quite certainly faster than 13 flat...
Its an investment... but at 400 hp... think what your top speed would be... We can run 160-170mph now... at 230 hp... almost double that... Uh... I'd definately say Its worth the money.
Its an investment... but at 400 hp... think what your top speed would be... We can run 160-170mph now... at 230 hp... almost double that...
Uh... I'd definately say Its worth the money.Then again, I probably won't ever run it at a strip again, it's like buying kobe beef, only to cook it well done and eat it with plasticwear, alone, instead of with some hot bitch.
05-08-2008, 09:23 PM
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I ran a 14.37 STOCK on OEM ****-tenzas at Ennis. I pray that the turbo kit gets me deeper into the 13's than 13.9...what with 275 KDW's, RPF1's, and super-wheelhop konis+s-techs, ACT Prolite, Exedy Stage 1, 7lb exhaust, catless midpipe etc....
Then again, I probably won't ever run it at a strip again, it's like buying kobe beef, only to cook it well done and eat it with plasticwear, alone, instead of with some hot bitch.
Then again, I probably won't ever run it at a strip again, it's like buying kobe beef, only to cook it well done and eat it with plasticwear, alone, instead of with some hot bitch.
I have the mazdaspeed suspension and progress tech sways...rev8 in the back...midpipe...AP now...waiting for SOMEONE to get the kit ready already...heh
Should be good for comparison testing...
05-08-2008, 09:24 PM
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Our cars are a lot faster then people give them credit for. I had my car at thunder hill raceway in northern california a few weeks back and there was only a few cars that were faster then me. Now I am talking about overall time around the track and the driver has a lot to do with how fast a car gets around a track. There was a large selction of cars from Z06 corvettes, 450 HP supercharged Mustanges,230 HP turbo charged race ready miates to 95 HP miates and everything in between. Were the mustanges and vettes pulling me down the straight aways, of course but not by much because I would have 10 MPH on them at the start of the turn and take it deeper into the turn and at a higher speed. Oh, when I do go FI I wont be getting pulled down the straight aways any longer.
05-08-2008, 09:26 PM
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05-08-2008, 09:33 PM
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lol heres what i dont get most ppl in here frown on sreet racin and draggn the 8 even on a track. so why do you put 5-8k into your car? so you can get up to speed quicker on the interstate? thts just endangering ppls life too and breaking the law..wrong is wrong ther is no grey area. i do now agree racing in n out of traffic, n doin 100 plus in busy place is retarded n dumb *guilty of tht wen i was 16-20*
05-08-2008, 09:40 PM
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lol heres what i dont get most ppl in here frown on sreet racin and draggn the 8 even on a track. so why do you put 5-8k into your car? so you can get up to speed quicker on the interstate? thts just endangering ppls life too and breaking the law..wrong is wrong ther is no grey area. i do now agree racing in n out of traffic, n doin 100 plus in busy place is retarded n dumb *guilty of tht wen i was 16-20*
I'm praying. That 14.37 was the aberration in a day of 8-10 runs...I think it was a pretty consistent 14.5-14.7 [I am not very consistent at launching my car-the 14.5's were with a 4k feather, the 14.3 was a 6.5k DROP with little to no bogging and no hop, at the end of the day when I'd lowered tire pressures from 33 to 28...I felt bad abusing the car and stopped, content, after that]. I've got slips somewhere in my desk in Houston w/ all of the runs along with me having written down what car was in the other lane...
I don't not enjoy drag, I've just gotten used to doing PCA DE's and love having videos to throw up on facebook so my friends can see what this car is actually capable of [SRT-10/RS4/997TT RAPE on track, at least in Yellow where I'm running now]
I figure the used Greddy I just bought should put me on par with a 996 Carrera in a straight line, and that's all I'll ever want. I certainly don't want my temperatures to get too high on track so I'm staying conservative with my 40k-old motor.
Full mod list for twinkie:
2004 RX-8 6MT GT, RB REVi Intake, ACT Prolite Flywheel, Exedy Stage 1 Clutch, Whiteline Swaybar Bushings, Koni Yellow Adjustables, Tein S-Tech Springs, Strakes, Enkei RPF-1 18x9.5, 275/35/18 BF Goodrich KDW's, Blue over Black Leather interior, minus the back seats which no longer exist, Corbeau Harnesses matched to interior [no longer legal at PCA events], Carbing Rear Underbrace, Clear Corners, Hawk HP+, OBDScan-APEX, 8 lb exhaust[OEM all the way to where canister muffler used to be, hacked off, 90* bend and turn down to passenger rear, videos on youtube, OCC, Autopower Roll Cage, Hydroxycut Hardcore as far as rear/trunk interior are concerned.
Uninstalled used greddy kit with EMU waiting for me to pick up Saturday, I might have to source a Greddy oil pan...kit comes VTA w/ Greddy RS, Turbo Timer, and some aftermarket catless midpipe
05-08-2008, 09:42 PM
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lol heres what i dont get most ppl in here frown on sreet racin and draggn the 8 even on a track. so why do you put 5-8k into your car? so you can get up to speed quicker on the interstate? thts just endangering ppls life too and breaking the law..wrong is wrong ther is no grey area. i do now agree racing in n out of traffic, n doin 100 plus in busy place is retarded n dumb *guilty of tht wen i was 16-20*
Lot's of people make it a hobby to go to events where they can do these types of things safely and legally...its fun...
That said...the biggest problem with the 8 is its lack of "UHMPH" down the long straightways found on a majority of these tracks...
We can outpwn them in teh twisteuhs...but down the straight...nothing beats raw power...
I plan on adding a turbo system to my car...so when I partake in my hobby...I haz teh p0wa for the straights...
How you got diverted into your spiel...i haz no idea...