Renesis07

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rXAMZ, heres my opinion of why the evo isnt a "sports car", and I cant speak for why everyone else is saying its not, but its the body style. The style of the Evo is more of a "sports sedan" rather than a sports car. It IS a base lancer with alot of upgrades for 30K+. Sports cars have different lines in their designs and are usually 2 doors. The RX8 is one unique example of a 4 door sports car. But the exterior of a car defines whether its a sports car or not.

rxAMZ

ok, granted the evo doesnt have the traditional sports layout, but when you take into account the fact that it does everything sports cars can do and sometimes better. In terms of performance, it does it all and has a massive trunk to boot
After all thats what warrants what a sports car is right? its performance & handling etc. The evo has both.

As for the exterior defining if a car is a sports car or not, I have to disagree. Think crossfire, tiburon and copen, all have the traditional sports car exterior but who calls them sports cars? No one, because they dont drive like one. Nuff Said.

Roaddemon

I thought the crossfire was a sportscar. Sure looks like one with the low profile. The Evo does everything a sportscar does because it's a small lightweight sedan and awd. Lets face it, if it had a sportscar base it would sell for twice as much. It's base is sedan. The rx8 base is miata but bigger and tricked with suicide doors and backseats. It has the same dimensions and size as one of one of the Porsche models, I can't remember which one. It is a true sportscar (not a mimic)and looks it too. That's why it handles so well and slick without having to be tricked with awd like the EVO.

WarmFreedom

basically rx8 is hard to let go for its looks and feel but then again the evo power (and turbo spooling sound) is a 'gotta have'
so it never ends...

best is to get another evo, when i can afford but then the current evo is phasing out, and the evoX is butt ugly.. dilemma dilemma

Roaddemon

The evo is a racer on steroids. The rx8's puny little 1.3l does well against much larger engines in large sedans but is no match for the evo. 6o's and 70's sportscars were alot like the 8 but without the comfort and convenience. They had tiny engines with high output for their size. I like that. No turbo for me. It just woud'nt be right for me. I'll take a supercharger instead. Next 8 might have that.

Roaddemon

A rwd Evo against a stock 8 on the track would be interesting. I think it would be close. A turbo 8 would kill it. IMO

Stavesacre21

to answer your last question, the 05's still have a good amount of the recalls that the 04's did. The later 05's (mine is DEC 05) had some of them done, but still required the emissions flash (thumbs DOWN) and i recently had the sunroof TSB done. THe brakes are squeeking horribly and they refuse the brakes TSB due to being like, 4 miles over. lol

if you're REALLY big on hoping for a car that is TSB free, you're gonna need to be looking at 06's and 07's. Not that the 05's aren't bad, but they still will require some recall or TSB work.

Then again, maybe the person that had it before you had a lot of that done already! that would be nice...

Renesis07

iTrader: (1)

Ok rxAMZ, the evo performs like a sports car, but isnt!!!!!!!!!! Its a tricked out lancer, thats why it PERFORMS like a sports car. The tiburon (as much as I hate this f$%#ing car), and Crossfire have sports car layouts, they arent tricked out sedans, theyre sports cars. Like the miata, it runs like what, 16's???? But its still a sports car. Body dimensions, handling, and the overall package define a sports car. A sports car isnt a sedan with a body kit, recaro seats, and a huge turbo, that would be a RALLY car!!!!!!!!!! Calling a evo a sports car is like calling an RX8 a rally machine!!! doesnt make much sense right???? Nuff said!!!!!!!

Moonrover333

ok i'm not really young, though am not old at 23. i do know what a true sports car is. the rx8 just doesn't seem like 1 to ME. thats all like i said the car has it all but the power and reliability (04 that is). and my final gripe. the evo only shares the actuall chasis with the base lancer. nothing else, hell its even reenforced. diff subframes, diff motor, tranny, suspension design, everything. it is not an econobox.. at all. and if it is an rs or mr than it has an aluminum roof for lightness.
*steps off soapbox*

PerformRX-8

I've driven my boys EVO 8 and yeah its fast, but I see them a lot, not to say that your car isn't good or anything, but I say you take the plunge and get the 8... Yeah it doesn't have the best straight line power, but who cares, it handles like a freaking beast, not to mention it looks sickkkkkkkkkkkkkk!! best of luck buddy!

Surf_RX8

As a owner of both, 03 Evo GSR and an 05 RX8 6 spd I have to tell you the evo get better gas mileage. I knew the RX8 was going to be bad on gas before I got it but since it has less power I thought it would be a little better then the evo but it is worse. I do love the interior of the RX8 but the seats in the Evo are way better. Also the awd makes it a better car in all weather and for safety. I drive the RX8 daily because it is more comfortable but I would sell the RX8 in a heart beat before my Evo. I would say keep the evo and get a miata for a dd. Similar in sporty feel to the RX8 but way better on gas and it take regular. Reving to 9k is fun but not as fun as full boost on the evo. Also if you do decide to get an RX8 I would find a 05 or newer since they worked out some of the first year kinks by then.

rxAMZ

that's cool everyone has they're own opinion.
But I determine whether a car is a sports car or not by hoe it performs, not how it looks.

I love both cars, the Rx8 because its comfy and cruisy, and the evo cause its all out *****.

Roaddemon

so according to some of you I now have second sportscar. My 2007 lincoln awd mkz 263 hp. Maybe I should mod it with a turbo and stiff suspension so I will smash an evo on the track and straights. Yep and I guess the 4400 lb awd SRT8 Charger is a sportscar too. They are according to your definitions. I guess any fast sedan small or big with all wheel drive, stiff suspension and recaro seats is now a classified sportscar by the EVo posters on the RX8 forum. Let me repeat, in the sane, logical world the Evo is not a TRUE sportscar, it is a rally racer modified for the street. To say it is a sportscar like the miata or rx8 is fantasy. It does it's thing well but not naturally like and rx8. It is a sum of Lots of factory mods on a econobox platform. You could do the same with a focus or civic or mazdaspeed 3.

Evo owners are bull headed thinking that way. It's wrong.

saturn

Why does everyone care what word you use to describe these cars? Who gives a crap what a "sports car" is.

I think my can of soda is a sports car. Deal with it.

Roaddemon

Yeah, my weber grill is really hot. It can smoke anything. It must be a sportscar. Any other fatasies to share?

dillsrotary

there are literally hundreds of extra welds added to the frame, body panels, sub-frame, etc to the evo. take a lancer, add brakes, turbo, and awd, and race it against an evo, though the outside parts look the same the chassis is literally night and day. There's more to a sports car than its "parts" and the evo has more then just "parts"

You shouldn't pass judgment on one until you drive one because you wouldn't want someone passing judgement on an RX8 who hasn't driven one. Everyone here blasts people who put down the rx8 but are we mere hypocrites for doing the same to the evo/sti owners?

flyboi1121

well congrats on your decision to get the 8. Along the line, if you want speed you can always get nos (cheapest yet fast) or get like a greddy for 3-4k depending on if u can install/tune it, and that should keep you up with other (non heavily modded evos/sti's) or even creep past them. If your wallet gets a bit thicker by then, you can even go mazsport's turbo kits like i am =D

i personally chose the 8 above the evo or sti for the same reason... it's just so much more fun to drive despite the power difference and the feel of the car. i also rather to upgrade performance in a car i really love rather than upgrade the interior/exterior styling of a good fast car that i like.

Enjoy! =D

Roaddemon

there are literally hundreds of extra welds added to the frame, body panels, sub-frame, etc to the evo. take a lancer, add brakes, turbo, and awd, and race it against an evo, though the outside parts look the same the chassis is literally night and day. There's more to a sports car than its "parts" and the evo has more then just "parts"QUOTE:


well yeah, re-inforcing welds are needed on the lancer to mod it for off road rally racing. It would fall apart if it was'nt. You can add the welds to the list of factory mods and recaro seats to make the evo a rally racer.

I for one am not knocking the car. It's a great rally car on off road or track. but it just is'nt a true sports car by the historical meaning of the word. It is a sporty car, off road rally racer bred.

rowteree

the lancer is not a sports car. Sports cars are 2 door coupes where the evo is a 4 door sedan so therefor its a sports SEDAN. The rx8 is a sports car regardless of how much power the evo has. Its all about preference, but why would you wanna go buy a thing that ugly? I would rather sell my 8 and get something in an entire different ballpark than get an evo with a park bench spoiler. And even in the past few years mitsubishi hasn't really proved to me that their cars are reliable. I had a friend whos GST eclipse left him stranded on the road all the time with the same 4g63 engine. I mean sure its fast, but i wouldn't wanna risk it buying a mitsushit

1.3L

What was your experience with insurance premiums on these cars. My guess is the very powerful and very fast Evo would have the highest premium. Just curious.

1.3L

saturn

^ It's been stated by various car magazines that the Evo is the most expensive car to insure. I don't know if that includes exotics and things like that, but for the most part, insuring an Evo is the worst.

However, insurance is different for everyone so if you really want to know the scoop, call your insurance company (or go online) and ask for a quote.

cjwaggs

dudes, I love my rx-8 with a passion.. believe me.. , but the evo is just plain badass. you guys can't deny that.

dmorales

I agree more with this this than the econobox statements.

The lancer is more of a tamed and broken beast. The Evo is the icon of Mitusbishi, and coming from a Rally car it is truly amazingly engineered. People don't realize how much engineering goes into rally. Those cars are not just awd gutted turbo cars. I have read articles that compare the technology in rally as 2nd only Formula cars.
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Red Devil

Get whatever makes you happy, I say. I think the RX-8 is a better chassis. The EVO is visceral.

I've been in a Vishnu prepped Evo8 on the track, had Ohlin coilovers also...the owner said it was about 320-330whp. The guy was a good driver, but the car was utterly impressive. Was hitting near 160mph on the front straights and was cornering with the best of them. There were guys in Vipers and Z06s waving him by, and he was driving in the highest classification at the event for cars with street tires.

delhi

I've outgrown the boy racer types. Back when I just got out of high school the EVO and STis were my hero cars. Now they just look clownish. No doubt they are fast and do whatever it is that they do quickly. Then again so is the SRT4 or the batmobile.
I'd get a 335i instead if i want a fast turbocharged bullet.