engineer's buy rx-8's?????
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My career has been focused on marketing products and technology, originally in silicon valley. My other car is a Saab (choose your own road) and I'm a devoted Mac freak. So when I test drove the RX-8, I was in love! It is unique, delivers awesome handling and performance, and doesn't look like anything else out there. I LOVE my RX-8! No engineering degree required. Though I relate to the techical reasons to chose a rotary engine as well as the best of them. 
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I work in human resources. The title of "engineer" is totally up to what a company wants to call a position. This is a "feel good" title bestowed on many as is technician for assembly line workers. It does get a bit overdone as in "domestic engineer" lol. Seriously though, Just having a degree in engineering means nothing. Some of the dumbest employees I have ran into have a four year degree in engineering. It depends on how the person applies their life knowlege, both education and experience. Never forget that many "engineers" barely graduated with a 2.00001 GPA
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Originally Posted by Cool-Blue-Dad
Where do you find that? I have never heard anyone seriously call themselves an engineer unless 1) they had an engineering degree, 2) worked their way up to an engineer back in the 70s and did actual engineering design work ever since, or 3) called themselves as systems engineer, but were really a project manager or middle manager (without an engineering degree).
I've never disputed the 2nd type if they really held an engineering job.
I consider the 3rd type a part of the middle-management stain that sours big companies, but I don't hate/hunt them.
What surprises me is when I find engineers acting in an installation or maintenance capacity in large plants. The folks like that who I have met first-hand do have actual engineering degrees, but their big-company employer considers plant construction and maintenance to be 'engineering' and product design to be 'R&D'.
Sorry to get further off topic, but I didn't understand your remark.
I've never disputed the 2nd type if they really held an engineering job.
I consider the 3rd type a part of the middle-management stain that sours big companies, but I don't hate/hunt them.
What surprises me is when I find engineers acting in an installation or maintenance capacity in large plants. The folks like that who I have met first-hand do have actual engineering degrees, but their big-company employer considers plant construction and maintenance to be 'engineering' and product design to be 'R&D'.
Sorry to get further off topic, but I didn't understand your remark.
It has been my experience in the automotive industry working for more than one company. I found people who were clueless about engineering calling themselves engineers.
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Originally Posted by DrDiaboloco
My friend's ex-wife was a smug "Industrial Engineer"... And by "smug" I mean "all people who aren't 'engineers' are stupid and beneath contempt'.
All my friends who ARE engineers think that the "engineer" designation in "industrial engineer" is completely bogus. Do you agree?
All my friends who ARE engineers think that the "engineer" designation in "industrial engineer" is completely bogus. Do you agree?
(no offense to IEs here!!)
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hey since there are a lot of engineers here, is 40k US / year + house, no taxes, a decent income in China for an EE, I'm only 25 so I only have about 2 years work experiance, I have a decent job right now in Canada (~50k US /y) and am not sure it's worth giving up, I just want to know if you think thats a competative wage, i thought it was a little low, even though living in China would be dirt cheep.
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Originally Posted by khtm
I was the one who originally made the remark.
Just glancing through this thread was evidence enough...I know for a fact that a lot of people who've posted aren't real engineers (ie didn't take an accredited 4 year degree program).
Just glancing through this thread was evidence enough...I know for a fact that a lot of people who've posted aren't real engineers (ie didn't take an accredited 4 year degree program).
Originally Posted by khtm
Right now the CCPE is in talks with Microsoft to remove "Engineer" from the MCSE designation, for example.
Here's what I mean (from this thread):
- Computer Science Engineer
- Cabinet Engineer
- Network Engineer
- Turbo-machinery engineer
- Software quality engineer
- Graphic Design Engineer
Know what I mean now?
Here's what I mean (from this thread):
- Computer Science Engineer
- Cabinet Engineer
- Network Engineer
- Turbo-machinery engineer
- Software quality engineer
- Graphic Design Engineer
Know what I mean now?
I think all of the companies I have seen adversite openings for engineers require an engineering degree, but perhaps I just never thought to notice.
I've never argued the point with degreed Computer Science professionals. For one reason - at the Univsersity I attended the Computer Science department was part of the college of engineering. For another reason - in embedded electronics the firmware/software engineers work is too similar and too tightly related to the electrical engineering work.
Mostly I blame HR departments for rampant ignorance, mislabelling and misnomers and inflexible, inappropriate procedures (at one big company I couldn't be paid market rates for an EE in the pay scale for folks with regular 4-year-degrees so HR put me in the pay scale for PhD employees and they didn't have hardware or software engineer job titles so they called me a system engineer).
All that said - ignorant asshats calling themselves engineers *does* offend me, even if they are degreed.
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Originally Posted by khtm
I was the one who originally made the remark.
Just glancing through this thread was evidence enough...I know for a fact that a lot of people who've posted aren't real engineers (ie didn't take an accredited 4 year degree program).
Even then in Canada you can't use the word "Engineer" in your job title unless you're a *Professional Engineer* (have to work 4 years after graduation and then apply for this title). It's honestly an insult to people that worked their *** off and understand the ethics and responsibility of being an engineer.
Right now the CCPE is in talks with Microsoft to remove "Engineer" from the MCSE designation, for example.
Here's what I mean (from this thread):
- Computer Science Engineer
- Cabinet Engineer
- Network Engineer
- Turbo-machinery engineer
- Software quality engineer
- Graphic Design Engineer
Know what I mean now?
Just glancing through this thread was evidence enough...I know for a fact that a lot of people who've posted aren't real engineers (ie didn't take an accredited 4 year degree program).
Even then in Canada you can't use the word "Engineer" in your job title unless you're a *Professional Engineer* (have to work 4 years after graduation and then apply for this title). It's honestly an insult to people that worked their *** off and understand the ethics and responsibility of being an engineer.
Right now the CCPE is in talks with Microsoft to remove "Engineer" from the MCSE designation, for example.
Here's what I mean (from this thread):
- Computer Science Engineer
- Cabinet Engineer
- Network Engineer
- Turbo-machinery engineer
- Software quality engineer
- Graphic Design Engineer
Know what I mean now?
The engineering company I work for is pretty strict on what an engineer is. My company designs and builds flight control systems, jet engine controls, power systems, avionics, and hybrid-electric drive trains for trucks and busses. We have hardware engineers (designing circuit cards, chassis, etc), software engineers (designing real-time embedded software), and systems engineers like me (responsible for the overall system design; we flow requirements and constraints to the hardware and software engineers).
So, unless you are designing solutions to engineering problems, you are not an engineer. Software quality/QA -> not engineers. IT people (network administrators, PC support, etc) -> not engineers. Maintenance and facilities people -> not engineers. Manufacturing -> not engineers. Test/Lab technicians -> not engineers.
So, yeah, the term engineer is often applied incorrectly (although like cool blue dad, I thought that the "cabinet engineer" and "graphic design engineer" were being facetious). Just a quick local search in the engineering section of ajb.org revealed the following "engineers": Energy Engineer, Utilities Engineer, a lot of "technicians" - including a Sears "Lawn & Garden Technician", Quality Engineer, Facilities Engineer, Manufacturing Engineer, Process Engineer, and even a Plumbing Engineer
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Biomedical engineer by training here, currently in life sciences business strategy consulting and looking to go into medicine...
So far I counted only one biological engineer in the posts before me, and a pharmaceuticals guy with a chemical engineering background... I'm surprised there are so few biomedical engineers here!
-P23
So far I counted only one biological engineer in the posts before me, and a pharmaceuticals guy with a chemical engineering background... I'm surprised there are so few biomedical engineers here!
-P23
Originally Posted by rx missle
Mechanical Engineer, nearly 4 yrs working for at a major Truck OEM.
Always loved the 7's since my dad had an 85 GLS-SE
I said i would buy the RX-8 when it came out....
Took me 2 yrs to pull the trigger
7 hundred miles, still looking for fun roads to explore the 8
Always loved the 7's since my dad had an 85 GLS-SE
I said i would buy the RX-8 when it came out....
Took me 2 yrs to pull the trigger
7 hundred miles, still looking for fun roads to explore the 8
also minor in fire protection engineer, what a waste of money.
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I'm a telecommunications/network/RF engineer, or simply a teleport engineer. I've read about and heard about rotaries for a long time. When it became feasible to get an 8, I jumped on the chance. There's no comparing the sound and feel of the rotary.
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Electrical Engineer at UM, but I'm doing lasers so it's more app phys than EE.
Originally wanted Rx7 FC (white one) but Rx8 seemed less of a head ache so I went with this, and I don't regret one bit.
Originally wanted Rx7 FC (white one) but Rx8 seemed less of a head ache so I went with this, and I don't regret one bit.
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Sweet thread rez! I had no clue the RX-8 attracted so many other engineers. It all makes so much sense now.
I have a BSE in aerospace engineering but my job is "systems engineering", working on avionics, I'm basically doing EE work. I was attracted to the RX-8 because they are unique and they place a greater emphasis on handling than most cars. After driving it for a year, I am more and more impressed with the engineering that went into these cars. Mazda made the perfect design compromises when creating this car.
Off Topic: Im probably going to be looking for a new job later this year
If any of you people that have been in the aero industry for awhile have some job leads, that would be awesome.
I have a BSE in aerospace engineering but my job is "systems engineering", working on avionics, I'm basically doing EE work. I was attracted to the RX-8 because they are unique and they place a greater emphasis on handling than most cars. After driving it for a year, I am more and more impressed with the engineering that went into these cars. Mazda made the perfect design compromises when creating this car.
Off Topic: Im probably going to be looking for a new job later this year
If any of you people that have been in the aero industry for awhile have some job leads, that would be awesome.
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Electronics/Electrocal/Communication Engineer here.
so seems like the RX8 is more an engineer's car, maybe only engineers could understand a rotary engine?
so seems like the RX8 is more an engineer's car, maybe only engineers could understand a rotary engine?
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