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06-10-2008, 12:43 PM
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I highly doubt that a bone stock SRT4 will run 13.4 right off the dealers lot. That is just idiotic.
Funny, then how did my friend get a new motor (and turbo) when he blew his stage3 mis-shifting? All under warranty. Dealer determines warranty claim, not dodge itself.
as for ms3, I have yet to see a slip of a BONE stock ms3 running a 13.4 quarter. The only reason Cobalts are fast is r&d from interested companies. If as much aftermarket r&d time and money went into any car as the cobalt it should fly.
anyways, please stay on topic.
as for ms3, I have yet to see a slip of a BONE stock ms3 running a 13.4 quarter. The only reason Cobalts are fast is r&d from interested companies. If as much aftermarket r&d time and money went into any car as the cobalt it should fly.
anyways, please stay on topic.
06-10-2008, 12:58 PM
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edit: 13.6 is fairly common, just about anyone can run sub 14 with a half way decent launch and okay shifting. I ran a 13.7 in my friends bone stock srt4 with 40k on the motor. On cool humid days people have reported trapping as high as 105mph all stock.
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Copied from wikipedia:
In 2003, Cory O'Brien and Erich Heuschele drove an SRT-4 to a 1st in class and 8th overall finish in the Tire Rack Cannonball One Lap of America.
In SCCA ProRally racing, the SRT-4 (and more recently the ACR version) has dominated the Group 5 (2WD) class since 2003. In just its first year competing, the Dodge ended the stranglehold that the FWD DSM's and Volkswagen's had on the class. With three entries competing the following year, the SRT-4 won every 2004 series race and end-of-season award. The SRT-4 has won every Group 5 and 2-Wheel-Drive class championship in US ProRally and Sno Drift since 2003, and its unprecedented dominance in 2004 helped Dodge earn its first US ProRally Manufacturers Championship in 28 years.
In 2005, Jeff Lepper drove the SRT-4 to its first ever national road racing win in the NASA US Touring Car Championship at California Speedway in Fontana.
In 2005, Dale Seeley, Kolin Aspergren, and Jamin Cummings drove an SRT-4 to a 1st in class and 8th overall finish in the Tire Rack Cannonball One Lap of America.
In 2006, the Dodge SRT-4 officially become the world's fastest production 4-cylinder car, averaging 221 mph (356 km/h) at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah in a car built by Dave Harris and Phil Hurst for Racedeck Racing. When the SRT-4's power plant was put on the engine dyno, it had surpassed well over 1,000 horsepower (1,087 hp/811 kW) without the aid of nitrous oxide (N2O) The car used the stock body, transmission, engine block, and even crankshaft while running in excess of 235 mph (378 km/h) during the run.
Robb Holland and Dan Aweida's SPEED World Challenge SRT-4's.
Multiple SRT-4s were raced in the SCCA SPEED World Challenge - Touring Car Series, and in 2006 - their second year of competition - had become one of the more successful platforms in the series. Robb Holland, of 3R Racing, became the first Pro driver to put the SRT-4 on the podium with his 3rd place finish at Road America in August of 2006. This was Dodge's first podium and first manufacturer's points in World Challenge Touring Car competition. Holland would finish the season with 3 top 10 finishes and two top 5 qualifying efforts in the SRT-4.
In 2007, Doug Wind, Devin Clancy, and Ken Brewer drove an SRT-4 to a 1st in class and 5th overall finish in the Tire Rack Cannonball One Lap of America.
06-10-2008, 02:04 PM
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Its a shame they are still not making the SRT4 (does the caliber count?). With the new Cobalt SS being turbo'ed and having that neat "no lift" programing to minimize boost lose while shifting these two would make an interesting war.
And an 11.5/123mph fwd car is kick *** in my opinion. Heck my favorite cars are Vettes (C5's and C6's on boost are a beautiful thing) and yet I LOVE driving my RX8.
And an 11.5/123mph fwd car is kick *** in my opinion. Heck my favorite cars are Vettes (C5's and C6's on boost are a beautiful thing) and yet I LOVE driving my RX8.
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Its a shame they are still not making the SRT4 (does the caliber count?). With the new Cobalt SS being turbo'ed and having that neat "no lift" programing to minimize boost lose while shifting these two would make an interesting war.
And an 11.5/123mph fwd car is kick *** in my opinion. Heck my favorite cars are Vettes (C5's and C6's on boost are a beautiful thing) and yet I LOVE driving my RX8.
And an 11.5/123mph fwd car is kick *** in my opinion. Heck my favorite cars are Vettes (C5's and C6's on boost are a beautiful thing) and yet I LOVE driving my RX8.
06-10-2008, 03:25 PM
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HAHAHAAHAHHAHA......I own an SRT-4 and my buddy has an RX-8..
PEOPLE - Its different strokes for different fokes.
Ill be pushing 400HP and my buddies RX-8 is awaiting a turbo install.
Ill rape him straightline, and until I get coilover Ill get eaten up in corners....simple as that.
I spent $1400 for an upgraded turbo kit, he spent $6000!!!!!
He came to post about his dyno number for His RX-8 which were great numbers for just an exhaust!
PEOPLE - Its different strokes for different fokes.
Ill be pushing 400HP and my buddies RX-8 is awaiting a turbo install.
Ill rape him straightline, and until I get coilover Ill get eaten up in corners....simple as that.
I spent $1400 for an upgraded turbo kit, he spent $6000!!!!!
He came to post about his dyno number for His RX-8 which were great numbers for just an exhaust!
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HAHAHAAHAHHAHA......I own an SRT-4 and my buddy has an RX-8..
PEOPLE - Its different strokes for different fokes.
Ill be pushing 400HP and my buddies RX-8 is awaiting a turbo install.
Ill rape him straightline, and until I get coilover Ill get eaten up in corners....simple as that.
I spent $1400 for an upgraded turbo kit, he spent $6000!!!!!
He came to post about his dyno number for His RX-8 which were great numbers for just an exhaust!
PEOPLE - Its different strokes for different fokes.
Ill be pushing 400HP and my buddies RX-8 is awaiting a turbo install.
Ill rape him straightline, and until I get coilover Ill get eaten up in corners....simple as that.
I spent $1400 for an upgraded turbo kit, he spent $6000!!!!!
He came to post about his dyno number for His RX-8 which were great numbers for just an exhaust!
www.different-strokes.org
06-10-2008, 03:42 PM
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Post the sheets! I dynoed on a DD here locally, stock at 171/124, after the Cobb AP at 181/129. Rest of the car (drivetrain/wheels/tires) is bone stock. Your 190/145 numbers are really good, especially for dynoing on the heartbreaker.
06-10-2008, 04:15 PM
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Was your Cobb tuned or just the off-the-shelf map? From my experience (Subaru's) Cobb base maps suck. Well worth the $$ to have it dyno tuned on the Cobb.
I also hear that 04 cats breakup, that could be an issue your having.
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New cat is on its way, so I'll have that to install soon. My numbers tended to be in the range of other folks on a DD dyno, so I didn't really think I was much of an anomaly. In fact, compared to other 8s at the dyno day, everyone figured i had the factory freak, haha. We had a few pull in under 160. Most were high 160s/low 170s. Once I have the parts on the car that I want to have installed, then I may get it tuned. After summer is when I'll finally put it on the dyno again.
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06-10-2008, 04:25 PM
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I can copy and paste of Wikipedia as well douche...
3rd place in the Speed World Challenge... Spare me. Wow do you want a ******* hug for 3rd?
Also, you forgot to mention when the SRT4 won in points as a team it was because the Dodge team had 2 or more SRTs running in the same class to compile points...
3rd place in the Speed World Challenge... Spare me. Wow do you want a ******* hug for 3rd?
Also, you forgot to mention when the SRT4 won in points as a team it was because the Dodge team had 2 or more SRTs running in the same class to compile points...
please don't prove to me how much of an idiot you are, no where in this whole thread does anyone (even me) state that the srt4 is a "hot sports car". As for domination hows this: (please fact check next time before you open your ignorant mouth, or at least read the thread)
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In 2003, Cory O'Brien and Erich Heuschele drove an SRT-4 to a 1st in class and 8th overall finish in the Tire Rack Cannonball One Lap of America.
In SCCA ProRally racing, the SRT-4 (and more recently the ACR version) has dominated the Group 5 (2WD) class since 2003. In just its first year competing, the Dodge ended the stranglehold that the FWD DSM's and Volkswagen's had on the class. With three entries competing the following year, the SRT-4 won every 2004 series race and end-of-season award. The SRT-4 has won every Group 5 and 2-Wheel-Drive class championship in US ProRally and Sno Drift since 2003, and its unprecedented dominance in 2004 helped Dodge earn its first US ProRally Manufacturers Championship in 28 years.
In 2005, Jeff Lepper drove the SRT-4 to its first ever national road racing win in the NASA US Touring Car Championship at California Speedway in Fontana.
In 2005, Dale Seeley, Kolin Aspergren, and Jamin Cummings drove an SRT-4 to a 1st in class and 8th overall finish in the Tire Rack Cannonball One Lap of America.
In 2006, the Dodge SRT-4 officially become the world's fastest production 4-cylinder car, averaging 221 mph (356 km/h) at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah in a car built by Dave Harris and Phil Hurst for Racedeck Racing. When the SRT-4's power plant was put on the engine dyno, it had surpassed well over 1,000 horsepower (1,087 hp/811 kW) without the aid of nitrous oxide (N2O) The car used the stock body, transmission, engine block, and even crankshaft while running in excess of 235 mph (378 km/h) during the run.
Robb Holland and Dan Aweida's SPEED World Challenge SRT-4's.
Multiple SRT-4s were raced in the SCCA SPEED World Challenge - Touring Car Series, and in 2006 - their second year of competition - had become one of the more successful platforms in the series. Robb Holland, of 3R Racing, became the first Pro driver to put the SRT-4 on the podium with his 3rd place finish at Road America in August of 2006. This was Dodge's first podium and first manufacturer's points in World Challenge Touring Car competition. Holland would finish the season with 3 top 10 finishes and two top 5 qualifying efforts in the SRT-4.
In 2007, Doug Wind, Devin Clancy, and Ken Brewer drove an SRT-4 to a 1st in class and 5th overall finish in the Tire Rack Cannonball One Lap of America.
Copied from wikipedia:
In 2003, Cory O'Brien and Erich Heuschele drove an SRT-4 to a 1st in class and 8th overall finish in the Tire Rack Cannonball One Lap of America.
In SCCA ProRally racing, the SRT-4 (and more recently the ACR version) has dominated the Group 5 (2WD) class since 2003. In just its first year competing, the Dodge ended the stranglehold that the FWD DSM's and Volkswagen's had on the class. With three entries competing the following year, the SRT-4 won every 2004 series race and end-of-season award. The SRT-4 has won every Group 5 and 2-Wheel-Drive class championship in US ProRally and Sno Drift since 2003, and its unprecedented dominance in 2004 helped Dodge earn its first US ProRally Manufacturers Championship in 28 years.
In 2005, Jeff Lepper drove the SRT-4 to its first ever national road racing win in the NASA US Touring Car Championship at California Speedway in Fontana.
In 2005, Dale Seeley, Kolin Aspergren, and Jamin Cummings drove an SRT-4 to a 1st in class and 8th overall finish in the Tire Rack Cannonball One Lap of America.
In 2006, the Dodge SRT-4 officially become the world's fastest production 4-cylinder car, averaging 221 mph (356 km/h) at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah in a car built by Dave Harris and Phil Hurst for Racedeck Racing. When the SRT-4's power plant was put on the engine dyno, it had surpassed well over 1,000 horsepower (1,087 hp/811 kW) without the aid of nitrous oxide (N2O) The car used the stock body, transmission, engine block, and even crankshaft while running in excess of 235 mph (378 km/h) during the run.
Robb Holland and Dan Aweida's SPEED World Challenge SRT-4's.
Multiple SRT-4s were raced in the SCCA SPEED World Challenge - Touring Car Series, and in 2006 - their second year of competition - had become one of the more successful platforms in the series. Robb Holland, of 3R Racing, became the first Pro driver to put the SRT-4 on the podium with his 3rd place finish at Road America in August of 2006. This was Dodge's first podium and first manufacturer's points in World Challenge Touring Car competition. Holland would finish the season with 3 top 10 finishes and two top 5 qualifying efforts in the SRT-4.
In 2007, Doug Wind, Devin Clancy, and Ken Brewer drove an SRT-4 to a 1st in class and 5th overall finish in the Tire Rack Cannonball One Lap of America.
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I can copy and paste of Wikipedia as well douche...
3rd place in the Speed World Challenge... Spare me. Wow do you want a ******* hug for 3rd?
Also, you forgot to mention when the SRT4 won in points as a team it was because the Dodge team had 2 or more SRTs running in the same class to compile points...
3rd place in the Speed World Challenge... Spare me. Wow do you want a ******* hug for 3rd?
Also, you forgot to mention when the SRT4 won in points as a team it was because the Dodge team had 2 or more SRTs running in the same class to compile points...
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yeah, the worst part is I never said that the srt was better than the rx8. It is faster in certain areas, sure but that doesn't make it better. You can purpose build anything, be it a Geo or a Porche; the reason I chose the srt-4 was because of the stoutness of its base components. To make a Geo run 300whp you would pretty much have to overhaul everything and probably end up swapping in a totally different motor. To make a srt4 run 300whp all you really need is a map clamp, screen-door spring, and an exhaust. You could get all that for under $500!
here is my opinion on cars with 11 (or better) second potential:
STi's are expensive and difficult to mod they also break pistons and rear ends early on
wrx's have horrible trannys and rear end's
Evo's have bad clutches (and are very difficult to replace) although I would probably buy one if I ever gave up on the srt-4
Supra's are great but very hard to find and generally extremely overpriced
Mustangs (and all other v8's) are just not my thing
DSM's are super heavy and have tranny issues
Hondas..... yeah....
Skyline - same as Supra issue, except even harder to find, parts are also very hard to find and expensive.
SRT-4 - stout motor, can make 450hp on stock internals, trannys hold up as long as motor does, parts are cheep and easy to come by, no maf, lighter than anything mentioned above short of a honda, and can easily spool a very large turbo
Anyways, for an out of the box track car I have found nothing that really compares to the rx8. (without spending 50k+) Which is why I bought one.
here is my opinion on cars with 11 (or better) second potential:
STi's are expensive and difficult to mod they also break pistons and rear ends early on
wrx's have horrible trannys and rear end's
Evo's have bad clutches (and are very difficult to replace) although I would probably buy one if I ever gave up on the srt-4
Supra's are great but very hard to find and generally extremely overpriced
Mustangs (and all other v8's) are just not my thing
DSM's are super heavy and have tranny issues
Hondas..... yeah....
Skyline - same as Supra issue, except even harder to find, parts are also very hard to find and expensive.
SRT-4 - stout motor, can make 450hp on stock internals, trannys hold up as long as motor does, parts are cheep and easy to come by, no maf, lighter than anything mentioned above short of a honda, and can easily spool a very large turbo
Anyways, for an out of the box track car I have found nothing that really compares to the rx8. (without spending 50k+) Which is why I bought one.
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That was second hand information. A buddy of mine from HS was trying to get one, and his dad wouldn't let him because he was the service manager at a Subaru store. He saw far too many BONE STOCK warped heads under 80k miles deep.
The problem could have been solved in the past few years.
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That was second hand information. A buddy of mine from HS was trying to get one, and his dad wouldn't let him because he was the service manager at a Subaru store. He saw far too many BONE STOCK warped heads under 80k miles deep.
The problem could have been solved in the past few years.
The problem could have been solved in the past few years.
06-10-2008, 05:24 PM
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well, the cooling system on them is prone to air bubbles because parts of the motor are higher than the radiator., that could cause excessive heat in sections of the head if not blead properly, which would cause a warped head in a bone stock wrx. SO prone to warped heads if you don't know how to work on them =)
Or, are the normal person, that drives a bone stock car and waits for it to die to bring it to the dealer.... This was jsut as WRX's started to get to that mileage, so the first 3-4 years of production.
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or you get your stuff checked at JiffyLube. It's a good argument for taking your car only to a factory authorized shop.
