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01-22-2007, 01:36 PM
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Just FYI, If I could, I'd put a rotary engine in every thing I possibly could. I'm already making plans for such an event in the future. I'd never been around a rotary engine before 7-31-03 (my first test drive) and since then it's all I can think about.
This is the FIRST car I'd turn around and buy again. In fact, That's what I'm planning to do this December unless Mazda brings out another rotary car.
This is the FIRST car I'd turn around and buy again. In fact, That's what I'm planning to do this December unless Mazda brings out another rotary car.
01-22-2007, 02:16 PM
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The majority of people on 3 or 4 engines were because of a poor reman that failed a seal within the first week. Seal as in gasket so the engine would leak oil or water.
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01-22-2007, 02:56 PM
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One thing that you have to face with the rotary engine is that you have to know about the differences from a piston engine. The rotary is the charm of this car, sweetest engine I've ever owned, smooth straightline power to the beep. But it is different, it requires you to know how to maintain the engine, that is why the rotaries tend to attract us motorhead types. You just have to know what you are getting into, you can't no brain non-maintain and get away with it.
No you can't just get in turn the key move it 10 feet and shut it off overnight but even then it isn't a guaranteed flood. Yes, you need to check the oil and add regularly this isn't the go to the local oil change shop every 5K and fuggetaboudit in between. I'll stay away from the oil types debate, people have good experiences if they know what they are doing but I've used dino for 58K miles without any problems. Oh, and you need to replace the spark plugs two to three times more often. Yeah, I get gunk on the dipstick in cold weather and it is a pain to read the oil level then but I can't see a need to have the whole re-plumbing done when it doesn't affect the engine itself.
My 04 MT has had all the recalls performed, control module flashes, didn't need the engine mounts or the replaced control arms. No new engine either. I've had no engine problems at all and it runs strong. For all the "issues", the 8 is the most fun of a lot of fun vehicles that I've owned. I'm not denying that some folks have had problems, nor am I saying that they didn't properly maintain them. All I am saying is that Mazda has done right by us in standing behind the product. I'm not worried about the longevity of this engine.
No you can't just get in turn the key move it 10 feet and shut it off overnight but even then it isn't a guaranteed flood. Yes, you need to check the oil and add regularly this isn't the go to the local oil change shop every 5K and fuggetaboudit in between. I'll stay away from the oil types debate, people have good experiences if they know what they are doing but I've used dino for 58K miles without any problems. Oh, and you need to replace the spark plugs two to three times more often. Yeah, I get gunk on the dipstick in cold weather and it is a pain to read the oil level then but I can't see a need to have the whole re-plumbing done when it doesn't affect the engine itself.
My 04 MT has had all the recalls performed, control module flashes, didn't need the engine mounts or the replaced control arms. No new engine either. I've had no engine problems at all and it runs strong. For all the "issues", the 8 is the most fun of a lot of fun vehicles that I've owned. I'm not denying that some folks have had problems, nor am I saying that they didn't properly maintain them. All I am saying is that Mazda has done right by us in standing behind the product. I'm not worried about the longevity of this engine.
01-22-2007, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverStreak
All I am saying is that Mazda has done right by us in standing behind the product.
01-22-2007, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Teacher
Hello, awesome forum with tons of information and passionate people. I have some concerns I hope you guys and gals can help me address before purchasing an RX-8.
You have nothing to worry about
* waves hand across face *
you will buy the rx8
* waves hand across face *
you can go about your business.
01-22-2007, 04:18 PM
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Im a female '06 owner,bought new, and am new to rotary, and have had NO issues. Mine has almost 11,000 miles and I've had her only 6 months.
Tip: my DEALER mechanic told me on the sly.....DRIVE HER LIKE YOU STOLE HER....most problems come from owners not really knowing the potential of this car and treating it like a piston engine. The Renesis is a racing engine.....remember that.
Take one out on a test drive and get a little wild with it and see what it will do...I did, scared the bejeesus out of the salesman......but I drove her home.....I guarantee YOU will be HOOKED....get a good warranty for a back up if you want,...and all the worries will go out the window...
I drive her aggressive, hit the Rev limiter at least once a week, and climb high elevations on a daily basis. Being female, and having my better half out of the country alot, I did take out the extended warranty. However checking oil, using proper gas, and keeping her on a strict proper maintence is on me. I take care of her she takes care of me.
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Tip: my DEALER mechanic told me on the sly.....DRIVE HER LIKE YOU STOLE HER....most problems come from owners not really knowing the potential of this car and treating it like a piston engine. The Renesis is a racing engine.....remember that.
Take one out on a test drive and get a little wild with it and see what it will do...I did, scared the bejeesus out of the salesman......but I drove her home.....I guarantee YOU will be HOOKED....get a good warranty for a back up if you want,...and all the worries will go out the window...
I drive her aggressive, hit the Rev limiter at least once a week, and climb high elevations on a daily basis. Being female, and having my better half out of the country alot, I did take out the extended warranty. However checking oil, using proper gas, and keeping her on a strict proper maintence is on me. I take care of her she takes care of me.
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01-22-2007, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rddragoness
Im a female '06 owner,bought new, and am new to rotary, and have had NO issues. Mine has almost 11,000 miles and I've had her only 6 months.
Tip: my DEALER mechanic told me on the sly.....DRIVE HER LIKE YOU STOLE HER....most problems come from owners not really knowing the potential of this car and treating it like a piston engine. The Renesis is a racing engine.....remember that.
Take one out on a test drive and get a little wild with it and see what it will do...I did, scared the bejeesus out of the salesman......but I drove her home.....I guarantee YOU will be HOOKED....get a good warranty for a back up if you want,...and all the worries will go out the window...
I drive her aggressive, hit the Rev limiter at least once a week, and climb high elevations on a daily basis. Being female, and having my better half out of the country alot, I did take out the extended warranty. However checking oil, using proper gas, and keeping her on a strict proper maintence is on me. I take care of her she takes care of me.
My .2
Tip: my DEALER mechanic told me on the sly.....DRIVE HER LIKE YOU STOLE HER....most problems come from owners not really knowing the potential of this car and treating it like a piston engine. The Renesis is a racing engine.....remember that.
Take one out on a test drive and get a little wild with it and see what it will do...I did, scared the bejeesus out of the salesman......but I drove her home.....I guarantee YOU will be HOOKED....get a good warranty for a back up if you want,...and all the worries will go out the window...
I drive her aggressive, hit the Rev limiter at least once a week, and climb high elevations on a daily basis. Being female, and having my better half out of the country alot, I did take out the extended warranty. However checking oil, using proper gas, and keeping her on a strict proper maintence is on me. I take care of her she takes care of me.
My .2
01-22-2007, 04:34 PM
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Now those are the types of responses I expect from a community and not all this flaming stuff. I'm fairly new to the rotary but not new to cars and I am a bit dissapointed on how many people get offended when people ask questions. Very nice post rddragoness..
01-22-2007, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SlipNslide1.3
Now those are the types of responses I expect from a community and not all this flaming stuff. I'm fairly new to the rotary but not new to cars and I am a bit dissapointed on how many people get offended when people ask questions. Very nice post rddragoness..
it's also a little tiring when people are looking for everyone to convince them of anything. i couldn't care less what someone else drives and am not going to make a decision for you or explain to you why i got and love the car. you're an adult - make an informed decision and stick to it but don't come on here and say prove to me why i should buy a car.
now where did i leave that darn soapbox?
BTW, i like the new signature (or maybe it's not new and i just noticed it)
01-22-2007, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CTrx8
it's also a little tiring when people are looking for everyone to convince them of anything. i couldn't care less what someone else drives and am not going to make a decision for you or explain to you why i got and love the car. you're an adult - make an informed decision and stick to it but don't come on here and say prove to me why i should buy a car.
01-22-2007, 04:41 PM
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people are offended because newbies keep asking the same dang ol' questions over and over again
Originally Posted by CTrx8
tell me again why should be convincing you of anything? sorry, i just don't care for people that say here are all the problems, here is where i've searched, now tell me what to do.
Originally Posted by CTrx8
the flaming comes in that these questions are asked on almost a daily basis. if people took a few minutes to do some searching they would answer their own questions. so when you see the same question over and over again and we live in a society where people want everyone to do their work for them then yes, you do get some flaming.
it's also a little tiring when people are looking for everyone to convince them of anything. i couldn't care less what someone else drives and am not going to make a decision for you or explain to you why i got and love the car. you're an adult - make an informed decision and stick to it but don't come on here and say prove to me why i should buy a car.
it's also a little tiring when people are looking for everyone to convince them of anything. i couldn't care less what someone else drives and am not going to make a decision for you or explain to you why i got and love the car. you're an adult - make an informed decision and stick to it but don't come on here and say prove to me why i should buy a car.
01-22-2007, 05:06 PM
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...Maybe I"m overreacting, and I thank everyone for their input.
I'm not bashing the car as I DO WANT ONE, I'm just doing my research and being realistic.
I'm not bashing the car as I DO WANT ONE, I'm just doing my research and being realistic.
You've gotten some good responses on reliability.
But, on a larger perspective, how tight are you on a car budget? You're buying used because you can't afford new, and you can't afford a big after-purchase surprise. Buying used always carries more risk than buying new. You've gotten advice to buy from a dealer and get an extended warranty - but that cuts some of the buy-used savings.
Life itself is a gamble. Life can also be dull if you look for the safest odds. You've got to ask yourself how much your passion for an RX-8 - or *any* cool car - balances your desire for safety.
FWIW, while the 8 has a unique engine, the things I worry about are common to just about all nice cars these days: headlight bulbs that are several hundred dollars a pop, $500 alloy wheels that ding a lot easier than $40 steel ones, electronic modules that can fry and cost hundreds (maybe a couple of thousand) dollars, low profile performance tires that cost double ordinary all seasons, etc.
Han Solo had it right when he said "Never tell me the odds."
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01-22-2007, 05:13 PM
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If your main reason for buying this car is for any reason OTHER than the engine, don't buy it. The engine is the soul of this car and makes it one of the greatest ownership experiences out there
01-22-2007, 05:16 PM
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The engine is an integral component to the car, the weight and positioning enabling some of the other highlights -> the perfect balance, the amazing agility, and the almost symbiotic driver-feedback and precision steering.
01-22-2007, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SlipNslide1.3
Now those are the types of responses I expect from a community and not all this flaming stuff. I'm fairly new to the rotary but not new to cars and I am a bit dissapointed on how many people get offended when people ask questions. Very nice post rddragoness..
Thanks! I am one that has always told it like I saw it.
01-22-2007, 06:40 PM
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The Miata is widely considered one of the most trouble-free cars you can buy. Still, Mazda had to replace the engine in my '99. The new engine was problem-free.
So… would you worry about buying a Miata?
So… would you worry about buying a Miata?
01-22-2007, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Teacher
Hello, awesome forum with tons of information and passionate people. I have some concerns I hope you guys and gals can help me address before purchasing an RX-8.
(BY THE WAY, I HAVE USED THE SEARCH MANY TIMES).
The whole engine replacement is a big concern for me. I have read numerous posts about people with less than 10,000 miles on their engines having them suddenly lose power and die.
Caused by: idling in a hot climate, insufficient oiling, wrong octance, wrong oil (synthetic) or an overlooked poor engine design? Either way something is not right.
I have read that some people have taken their cars to Mazda dealerships, where they are compression tested, where your car either passes or fails.
a) A pass and they may give you a new flash update, or state that if they can't reproduce the same problematic situation that you experience than nothing is wrong;
b) Or fail, get a new engine put in (wait several weeks while driving a rental), and have it blow up or die once again.
My Concern:
1. The whole point of buying used is to save $$$, but if I buy used, with a warranty that is soon to run out, I DO NOT WANT TO FOOT THE BILL FOR A NEW ENGINE. Especially when some people have gone through 2, 3, and even 4 new engines. This is why I feel its a design flaw, as people in other areas of the world that do not have excessive humidity and heat are still having problems.
So....
Has Mazda fixed the problem yet? Can I buy a used 2004, 2005, 2006 and not worry. Meaning I can take it to the dealership, get a flash, a part, a cooling system upgrade and be on my way?
And lastly, are the 2007's designed differently, or are they, I hate to say it, cursed as well with marble/detonation syndrome?
I want an RX-8 for many obvious reasons, but I do not want to buy a potential lemon that has no solution.
(BY THE WAY, I HAVE USED THE SEARCH MANY TIMES).
The whole engine replacement is a big concern for me. I have read numerous posts about people with less than 10,000 miles on their engines having them suddenly lose power and die.
Caused by: idling in a hot climate, insufficient oiling, wrong octance, wrong oil (synthetic) or an overlooked poor engine design? Either way something is not right.
I have read that some people have taken their cars to Mazda dealerships, where they are compression tested, where your car either passes or fails.
a) A pass and they may give you a new flash update, or state that if they can't reproduce the same problematic situation that you experience than nothing is wrong;
b) Or fail, get a new engine put in (wait several weeks while driving a rental), and have it blow up or die once again.
My Concern:
1. The whole point of buying used is to save $$$, but if I buy used, with a warranty that is soon to run out, I DO NOT WANT TO FOOT THE BILL FOR A NEW ENGINE. Especially when some people have gone through 2, 3, and even 4 new engines. This is why I feel its a design flaw, as people in other areas of the world that do not have excessive humidity and heat are still having problems.
So....
Has Mazda fixed the problem yet? Can I buy a used 2004, 2005, 2006 and not worry. Meaning I can take it to the dealership, get a flash, a part, a cooling system upgrade and be on my way?
And lastly, are the 2007's designed differently, or are they, I hate to say it, cursed as well with marble/detonation syndrome?
I want an RX-8 for many obvious reasons, but I do not want to buy a potential lemon that has no solution.
nah...i'd worry and just not buy one if i were you.
You clearly are overly concerned with all the bad and have much disregaurd of any good points. Doesn't sound like the car fits you already
01-22-2007, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CTrx8
i wouldn't agree with that statement. there are plenty of us with '04s that are doing just fine.
01-22-2007, 07:06 PM
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I own an 04 as well and it has been a great car. 35k on the odo right now. I havent had a single issue until today when I ran over a ladder that fell off the back of a truck (minimal damage). And yes, it is sunlight silver, thanks for asking...
01-22-2007, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CTrx8
the flaming comes in that these questions are asked on almost a daily basis. if people took a few minutes to do some searching they would answer their own questions. so when you see the same question over and over again and we live in a society where people want everyone to do their work for them then yes, you do get some flaming.
it's also a little tiring when people are looking for everyone to convince them of anything. i couldn't care less what someone else drives and am not going to make a decision for you or explain to you why i got and love the car. you're an adult - make an informed decision and stick to it but don't come on here and say prove to me why i should buy a car.
now where did i leave that darn soapbox?
BTW, i like the new signature (or maybe it's not new and i just noticed it)
it's also a little tiring when people are looking for everyone to convince them of anything. i couldn't care less what someone else drives and am not going to make a decision for you or explain to you why i got and love the car. you're an adult - make an informed decision and stick to it but don't come on here and say prove to me why i should buy a car.
now where did i leave that darn soapbox?
BTW, i like the new signature (or maybe it's not new and i just noticed it)
I guess after I have been here a while I will get annoyed as well. I have searched for certain things with out being able to find what Im looking for but Im affraid to ask. I will just ask a member at one of our local meets. 
The sig, thanks, I made it a couple days ago. Im glad you like it.
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