Raptor2k

Had the new starter and plugs, so I didn't think to tell them of the possibility of flooding it. Even though I typically warm it up for a minute or two and rev it before shut off.

So just an fyi, flooding the RX-8 with the updates from your dealership is still possible.

I am having it towed to the dealership w/ AAA in a couple hours.

My question - even though the car is at 50,200 miles, am I still under warranty for a free deflood? The 04/05 RX-8s had their powertrain warranties extended to 60k, correct?

shaunv74

Yes. That's correct. Check on the finishlineperformance.com website and you can pull down the letter.

Raptor2k

Where is the letter? They are wanting $98. They say it's not an internal engine or transmission problem.

CTrx8

iTrader: (2)

i don't see anything about which warranty (bumper to bumper or powertrain) it is:

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...5-08-1883a.pdf

Raptor2k

Yeah, nothing there.

CyberPitz

Sucks that you have to pay to deflood it

I guess I better watch my warm up procedures more closely, even though I haven't flooded yet. I don't want to have to deal with it.

HiTMaNN

Search and do it yourself... man up or make the body shop pay for it....

Raptor2k

Anybody know if I should bother trying to argue about the 60k powertrain warranty?

CarAndDriver

The fear of flooding with noobs who service or handle your car. Someone created some cards that explicitly say what to do on here if they hand the car to a noob.

CTrx8

iTrader: (2)

can't hurt to ask. it all depends on what kind of relationship you do or don't want to have with that dealer. if it's close and otherwise good i would just ask the question and if they say no, drop it. if you don't mind burning that bridge and they say no, you might as well argue with them that it is a powertrain issue.

Go48

Uh huh.

CTrx8

iTrader: (2)

i hadn't seen this before - it's great. one of the main reasons i take a train into the city is so that i don't have to hand over my keys to a parking attendant who is sure to move the car and flood it.

PoolShark

correct me if i am wrong, but hasnt the flooding problem been corrected with 2006 models and later? according to the email i got from Mazda yesterday that is pretty much the case.

Mike

Go48

Why don't you post the Mazda email so we can see what they said exactly. Was this email from Mazda NA or your local dealer? I seriously doubt that Mazda NA would state that there is no longer any possibility of flooding. Certainly they have been working on minimizing the likelihood of flooding, but IMO, given enough cold-engine shutdowns the car will flood.

PoolShark

This came from Mazda Customer Assistance.

"We are aware of the 04-05 dilemma with the RX-8 stalling and that issue has been rectified."

my apologies if my other post wasnt 100% accurate.

Mike

Triperformance

I would put it on the body shop because if their going to work on every vehicle they should be aware of what vehicles need...example a warm up cycle. I would be arguing with the body shop dude, their responsible for what they do to your car and moving it around is part of the job even though they don't service the vehicle.

New2u

Yes i would also imagine that it would be on the body shop. Since it was in their possession, they should be liable for the money (if any) it would take to get your car working again. Just as a mechanic would be liable for one of their techs if the tech took your car for a test drive after they did some work and he crashed it.

Go48

Yep, stalling and flooding are two different issues, which may be indirectly related due to low engine compression.

As I said, I think Mazda has made a good faith effort to minimize the flooding problem, but they have not eliminated it altogether in my opinion. Proper warmup procedures should be followed regardless of the model year of a rotary-engined car. That will minimize the chance of flooding.

Raptor2k

Starting the car and moving into some garage and shutting it off is just not something I'd make them responsible for. Had I told them to warm the engine, and they didn't, then I would of definitely put the blame on them.

It's my fault, I had assumed the likelihood of flooding with the new updates would of been very minute and it wasn't something to worry about. Never flooded it before either.

Bad luck for me, as always.